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Philipe Coutinho - Medical at Liverpool

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MOSaint

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I don't know, it seems like since we signed Gaston agents in Italy may be using us to drive up prices as they know that

 

a) We are willing to look to Serie A for players

b) Cortese isn't shy with the chequebook

 

Feel we may be getting used to try and force Liverpool into offering more money.

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Spudders

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I don't know, it seems like since we signed Gaston agents in Italy may be using us to drive up prices as they know that

 

a) We are willing to look to Serie A for players

b) Cortese isn't shy with the chequebook

 

Feel we may be getting used to try and force Liverpool into offering more money.

 

Maybe Liverpool are getting used to force us to offer more money! ;)

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If Liverpool offer the same amount where do you think he will go? We will have to pay more than other more established clubs offer, I hope not too much.

 

If the packages we offer are similar then hopefully the fact that he has worked with Pochettino before might sway him our way.

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What position does he play? Could he and Ramirez play together or two similar? Not sure we could carry two luxury players?

 

If you were paying attention on Monday, you would know that Ramirez isn't a luxury player. He put in a proper shift. I get the impression that MP won't stand for anyone to be lazy, regardless of technical ability.

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tajjuk

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Interesting had a feeling we might be back in for this one due to the new manager.

 

Sounds like he doesn't want to go and Inter don't really want to sell so this may rumble on for a while.

 

Cue loads of Liverpool fans either;-

 

A. Say there is no way he would sign for such a small club as us.

 

or

 

B. Claim he's rubbish and they don't want him because such a small club like us want him.

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tajjuk

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Back to my point of us overpaying, how much is the key.

 

Don't think we will overpay in wages, our strategy seems to be paying more in transfer fees to keep the 'bigger' clubs out of the race. It's the main advantage we seem to have over Liverpool that we have a bit more cash than them, doubt we can (or are willing) to out do them in wages.

 

Seems a more sensible strategy than QPR, taking a hit of £3-5 million on a one off transfer fee is a lot better than being stuck with an underperforming player on a 5 year contract worth £20 million.

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The idea of beating Liverpool in the transfer market is not as far fetched as it seems.

 

They are resolutely a upper-mid table side now, the days of them being part of the 'big four' that had a lock on the Champions League places year on year are long gone, so their revenue has taken a massive nosedive.

 

In addition, their owner was one of the earliest adopters of 'Moneyball' in the US, and he saw it bring success back to Fenway after years in the wilderness. The Red Sox were a massive club, living off former glories but no longer part of the top table, saddled with big-time players past their best and prospects who never turned out as good as they had hoped, all on huge wages. Sound familiar? Henry saw a statistical approach based on limited funds bring the World Series back to the Sox, and now he wants to do the same with Liverpool.

 

In Rogers he has got a young manager who will be prepared to operate without the ridiculous largesse of recent years, and he will want the likes of Henderson, Downing and Carroll off the books before he allows any more significant spending.

 

For as far upwards as we have travelled in the past three years, Liverpool have travelled the same distance downwards. Do we equal them in terms of history, reputation and that fabled 'big club' measurement? No, of course not. But can we realistically compete, safely, on a financial basis? Yes, definitely.

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Don't think we will overpay in wages, our strategy seems to be paying more in transfer fees to keep the 'bigger' clubs out of the race. It's the main advantage we seem to have over Liverpool that we have a bit more cash than them, doubt we can (or are willing) to out do them in wages.

 

Seems a more sensible strategy than QPR, taking a hit of £3-5 million on a one off transfer fee is a lot better than being stuck with an underperforming player on a 5 year contract worth £20 million.

 

And you can add Pompey to that list....

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Extract:

“For me, he’s a phenomenon. He’s like a Ferrari. When he’s dribbling with the ball at his feet, you just can’t catch up to him."Juan Jesus, the Brazilian and Inter centre-back could barely hide his admiration, while the Italian club’s President Massimo Moratti hailed him as the “future of Inter”.

Ask Philippe Coutinho what he thinks of himself, and he shrugs. He’s embarrassed by all the comparisons made between him and Kaka and his humble nature simply won’t allow him to boast.

Besides, Ricardo Quaresma was his idol. Yet there’s a little twinkle in his eye. He knows. He definitely knows what he’s doing and why the world is so fascinated. After all, as a 17-year-old Vasco da Gama player, wannabe journalists used to wait outside in hopes of talking to him and him alone. His more famous teammates were simply ignored.

A playmaker with incredible speed, his quick feet and technical skill would impress even the harshest critic. Coutinho is the kid with the bright future.

Coveted by so many teams, Inter invested him when the Brazilian was only 16 years old, despite the fact he was not allowed to play for them for another two years.

Starting out his career as a forward, he was then transformed into an attacking midfielder at 12 years of age. Capable of always delivering that special through ball that penetrates opposing defences, at Inter he has developed his tactical awareness.

 

His versatility has seen him deployed in a number of different positions. He can play as a forward, on the left, on the right or behind the strikers. He can offer something in each position.

Never providing the opponent with a reference point, Coutinho is difficult to mark and loves nothing more that to run at defenders. His off the ball movements have improved too with the player regularly seen pressing his opponent to win back possession or positioning himself intelligently to interrupt the other team’s passing rhythm.

Is he equipped to play in the Premier League?

 

Every talented player blessed with pace, technical skill and a grounded personality should be able to make it anywhere.

At Inter, his fitness trainers oversaw a schedule that encouraged muscle growth to make him stronger and better able to compete in Serie A. They managed to do so without compromising his pace and trickery. However, his more muscular physique perhaps explains why the player has suffered with injuries that have hindered his development.

As the body gets accustomed to the changes within, the legs tend to suffer with the extra weight and the shift in balances. Nonetheless, he’s become less easy to beat whilst maintaining all the individual skill that makes him a wonder to watch.

Under Brendan Rodgers, Liverpool focus on a passing game whilst the player’s ability to float between the lines and exploit spaces would be an advantage.

However, his finishing needs to improve, as does his ability to shield the ball. Unfortunately, he is still far too prone to being easily dispossessed and can prove frustrating at times especially when great dribbling does not result in any end product.

Consistency is still a problem and as such the player would benefit more from a coach with more time to dedicate to his progress.

As for Southampton, the player is very familiar with Mauricio Pochettino who trained him when they were both at Espanyol.

Developing into a key player during his short stint in Spain, many critics went so far as to say the side became too reliant on the playmaker. Coutinho benefited from having a tough coach who demanded he push himself to the limit. Pochettino, after all, is renowned for his work with youth and thus forged a good relationship with the player who appreciated how much time was dedicated to his improvement.

On his return to Italy, the media were quick to point out Coutinho’s renewed confidence and greater understanding of how best to exploit his skills. As such, the newly appointed Southampton manager might just be the ideal man to work with the youngster.

 

Cheers. I'm getting moister by the minute :)

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Would love this signing to happen. Think it will be another sign of intent, but not sure if it will. Seems Inter aren't going to be willing to sell that easily?

 

Also as with Ramierz he isn't the finish package, so could take some time to bed him in. But I think with him, Ramierez, Lallana, and Puncheon (hope he stays) we would have a good attacking midfield with options!

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tajjuk

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And you can add Pompey to that list....

 

Yes, true but we don't want to seem like we are obsessed with them down the road do we;)

 

Reckon it will take a bid of around £15 million to get this dude (so we are looking at 17/18 million Euros I reckon) and then hope a decent wage, promise of regular football and linking up with Poch will be enough to persuade him to move.

 

Ramirez cost £12 million from a club struggling financially, Inter have debts but with Schneider off the books they aren't desperate and want to keep him but a deecent high bid for a non-first teamer might be too much to turn down.

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Kingsland Red

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If you were paying attention on Monday, you would know that Ramirez isn't a luxury player. He put in a proper shift. I get the impression that MP won't stand for anyone to be lazy, regardless of technical ability.

 

Ramirez put in a "proper shift" for 60 odd minutes on Monday and was knackered. We need some more 95 minute shifts from him, murdering defenders when they're knackered not his fitness failing before theirs.

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Yes, true but we don't want to seem like we are obsessed with them down the road do we;)

 

Reckon it will take a bid of around £15 million to get this dude (so we are looking at 17/18 million Euros I reckon) and then hope a decent wage, promise of regular football and linking up with Poch will be enough to persuade him to move.

 

Ramirez cost £12 million from a club struggling financially, Inter have debts but with Schneider off the books they aren't desperate and want to keep him but a deecent high bid for a non-first teamer might be too much to turn down.

 

Think €15 would get him tbh. Don't think Inter would reject that for a squad player when the economy is so bad over there.

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Matthew Le God

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@SSNSources

BREAKING: Philippe Coutinho is having a medical at Southampton after he rejected a move to Liverpool. More soon. #SSN

 

??????

 

Is SSNSources one of those spoof accounts? I can never tell these days. FFS.

 

It isn't really SSN.

 

It is followed by under 300 people (if real it would be in hundreds of thousands) and has some clearly daft tweets in its history. They also are unlikely to call it "SSNSources".

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