dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 So I simply ask a question wondering IF Ince's hamstring injury could have been an issue in their pursuit of Coutinho (I honestly thought most people would get the young players & Hamstrings & Liverpool link = Owen's early days) And woosh MLG decides I am talking about a different player, shoots and scores. Sorry MLG still love you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 (edited) Don't think height is an issue. Being short is increasingly an advantage IMO but if you are short better to be on the stockier side, especially if you're taking on players alot, to take advantage of that low centre of gravity. Not always as more muscle mass can decrease your flexibilty and agility, meaning you can't turn as quickly or easily which would effect dribbling. Also extra upper body muscle mass could decrease acceleration and put more strain on your legs thus more injuries. Look at someone like Rooney, pretty stocky fellow, isn't axactly known for his jinking runs and when not 100% fit an look laboured and slow in possesion. Or say the difference between Bale and Silva. Silva is slight and short so can jink his was through tights spaces with quick feet, goot balance and agility. Bale who is taller and stronger, uses power and pace to blast past opponents, rather than jink past them. Edited 25 January, 2013 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 It was a clear typo, thought I'd try and get away with it with a quick cheeky edit. But failed. Everything else in that post was clearly about Blackpool (fixtures and teammate Matt Phillips), I was reading about Crystal Palace selling Zaha to Man Utd whilst typing and my brain couldn't cope doing two things at once clearly. I am and was always fully aware who Tom Ince plays for. What Turkish overlooks though is he is wrong and Ince played throughout the last 3 months. Not being funny, but why was that post clearly about Blackpools fixtures ? Could've been anyones, even Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Not always as more muscle mass can decrease your flexibilty and agility, meaning you can't turn as quickly or easily which would effect dribbling. Also extra upper body muscle mass could decrease acceleration and put more strain on your legs thus more injuries. Look at someone like Rooney, pretty stocky fellow, isn't axactly known for his jinking runs and when not 100% fit an look laboured and slow in possesion. True -I also think the whole move to tiki taka football has helped shorter players who are closer to the football, helping them keep better control of it. But that's more about possession football than the ability to take players on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 (edited) Not being funny, but why was that post clearly about Blackpools fixtures ? Could've been anyones, even Palace. Because Blackpool and Palace didn't play on the same dates in that period. For example Tom Ince played for Blackpool on Friday night Sky game on 21st December, Palace played on the 22nd. So I was clearly using Blackpool's fixtures, why would I do that if I didn't think Ince played for Blackpool? Anyway, bored now. Coutinho - Ramirez - Lallana What an attacking midfield behind Lambert that would be! Edited 25 January, 2013 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 True -I also think the whole move to tiki taka football has helped shorter players who are closer to the football, helping them keep better control of it. Indeed, Messi is not only one of the world's greatest footballers but at 5' 7" and a slight frame he has shown that skill and ability are more important than physical attributes. More strict refereeing also helps the smaller players. Getting the balance right in terms of muscle is something where there isn't a one rule fits all policy, different players need to train different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I watch a lot of Italian footy &, in I'm honest, not sure the English game is suited to him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Because Blackpool and Palace didn't play on the same dates in that period. For example Tom Ince played for Blackpool on Friday night Sky game on 21st December, Palace played on the 22nd. Ok fair enough, but that's hardly what I'd call clear, not unless you took the trouble to go onto both their websites and look up the fixture list dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Indeed, Messi is not only one of the world's greatest footballers but at 5' 7" and a slight frame he has shown that skill and ability are more important than physical attributes. More strict refereeing also helps the smaller players. Getting the balance right in terms of muscle is something where there isn't a one rule fits all policy, different players need to train different ways. Tho Messi has bulked up significantly - quite apart from his skill and ability, I would say being short is a physical attribute that's helped Messi (as well as Xavi, Iniesta etc). The simple physics of a game that's played with feet on the deck and requires close control and coordination, presaged by the move to a shorter passing game, makes football ideally suited to shorter players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 lol ^ TFFT you've gone black....about time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I watch a lot of Italian footy &, in I'm honest, not sure the English game is suited to him yet. This is my worry. Gaston was a different kettle of fish due to his build and the fact that he was quite physical at Bologna. Coutinho is slight and not that type of player. He is technically brilliant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Tho Messi has bulked up significantly - quite apart from his skill and ability, I would say being short is a physical attribute that's helped Messi (as well as Xavi, Iniesta etc). The simple physics of a game that's played with feet on the deck and requires close control and coordination, presaged by the move to a shorter passing game, makes football ideally suited to shorter players. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Warwick_Davis_interviewed_2.jpg/220px-Warwick_Davis_interviewed_2.jpg sign him up, sign him up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 For 10-13m we could also go after Kevin De Bruyne - now there's a top class left winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 For 10-13m we could also go after Kevin De Bruyne - now there's a top class left winger Who Chelsea wouldn't sell and is on a season long loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Surely there must be other options for that kind of money...Coutinho looks a hell of a talent but you have to wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Surely there must be other options for that kind of money...Coutinho looks a hell of a talent but you have to wonder... Younes Belhanda, Alex Teixera, Mehdi Carcela to name a few.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I don't think this would be a reasonable use of money. Just too risky when the priority has to be staying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I don't think this would be a reasonable use of money. Just too risky when the priority has to be staying up. so what would be reasonable to spend the money on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 so what would be reasonable to spend the money on ? Whores... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 so what would be reasonable to spend the money on ? A central midfielder and a more robust attacking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 A central midfielder and a more robust attacking player. Viola..... Looks pretty 'robust' to me. This guy is on a free and also fits the bill...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Just get the feeling that we are getting overly excited about a player based on his youtube videos! I read the guy has only started 3 games for Inter this season, is that because he's been injured or is his position just blocked by a better player? I would quite like to see us go for Ince and I've always thought Phillips has looked good when playing against us. Been quite proud of the fact our team has come up and now continued to use a good number of home based players not sure I'm keen on a future team full of overseas players like at Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Viola..... Looks pretty 'robust' to me. This guy is on a free and also fits the bill...... Were there no photos of Micky Skate Quinn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Just get the feeling that we are getting overly excited about a player based on his youtube videos! I read the guy has only started 3 games for Inter this season, is that because he's been injured or is his position just blocked by a better player? I would quite like to see us go for Ince and I've always thought Phillips has looked good when playing against us. Been quite proud of the fact our team has come up and now continued to use a good number of home based players not sure I'm keen on a future team full of overseas players like at Chelsea. who'd have thought it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 He's being kept out of the side by Cassano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 If you believe what you read online the lad really does not fancy coming here,Liverpool is his preferred choice but they will not go over €8 mill when Milan want €12-13,but they are desperate to sell to buy Paulinho,the only way I can see him coming here is if Liverpool pull out completely and Inter tell him he is not wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 who'd have thought it!!! Our scouts will have seen far more than his youtubes clips though and MP obviously knows the player well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Rumours about that Spurs have now had a £9.5 mill bid accepted for Coutinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 He will go to Liverpool imo! And we will have our creative player getting better and better in Ramirez, looking forward to seeing the true Gaston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 We do need a wide player though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 We do need a wide player though. So, we need an FM guru to go trawl the Coutinho stats and find someone near as dammit identical. Ain't rocket science Apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Seems that Spurs have stepped in and had a bid accepted, according to Sky Italia. They have the money and currently more pull than Liverpool, expect him to go there now if the rumours are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Just get the feeling that we are getting overly excited about a player based on his youtube videos! I read the guy has only started 3 games for Inter this season, is that because he's been injured or is his position just blocked by a better player? I would quite like to see us go for Ince and I've always thought Phillips has looked good when playing against us. Been quite proud of the fact our team has come up and now continued to use a good number of home based players not sure I'm keen on a future team full of overseas players like at Chelsea. Only 3 league starts, 5 champions league starts as well. It's Inter though, would be like saying Marin isn't good enough for us because he doesn't play for Chelsea. Were there no photos of Micky Skate Quinn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 The fact that were now a new name in the mix with clubs like pool and spurs hunting players shows which direction our beloved club is moving in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Isn't the Spurs thing a windup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Isn't the Spurs thing a windup? Could well be, apologies if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 The fact that were now a new name in the mix with clubs like pool and spurs hunting players shows which direction our beloved club is moving in... Yea, empty handed with Chaplow and De Ridder on the bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Isn't the Spurs thing a windup? Yep, started by an Liverpool fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 (edited) Freelance journalist @indykaila Liverpool Football Club submitted new bid for Thomas Ince. The bid was submitted this morning. #LFC #Blackpool Liverpool hedging their bets OR going for both Ince and Coutinho OR going for Ince instead of Coutinho OR a load of old ballcocks? Edited 25 January, 2013 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 25 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 25 January, 2013 @tancredipalmeri: Many asking on a Tottenham bid on Coutinho. So far had no confirmation of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Considering what getting both Ince & Coutinho would cost them, I can't see Liverpool having both given they have already spent 12m on Sturridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 @tancredipalmeri: Many asking on a Tottenham bid on Coutinho. So far had no confirmation of that http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=302393.msg11323369#msg11323369 Reply #719 on:Today at 02:02:01 PM » Ok, let's have some fun. Let's make up a twitter rumour re: Coutinho and see how many retweets we can get. Make it plausible. I'll send it from my @statsdan account, you guys RT it we'll get the ball rolling. Dan Burt @statsdan #Skyitalia reporting #Spurs have had a £9.5m bid for Coutinho provisonally accepted. Morratti: "There is interest." #LFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Liverpool hedging their bets OR going for both Ince and Coutinho OR going for Ince instead of Coutinho OR a load of old ballcocks? ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Them scousers are a wacky bunch aint they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Still no definitive link with Coutinho then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8439107/Liverpool-boss-Brendan-Rodgers-targets-one-or-two-more-players-this-month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I wish MLG would f*ck off and stop ruining it on here though. Such a plank. Go read your Mr Men books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 I wish MLG would f*ck off and stop ruining it on here though. Such a plank. He really knows how to push your buttons hey pal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 Closing this for a few minutes, carry on in the lounge. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?42812-The-Twitter-Transfer-Rumour-Game&p=1602579#post1602579 Keep this thread for Coutinho when I reopen it please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 25 January, 2013 Share Posted 25 January, 2013 And reopened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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