SaintSteve Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 have been a fan of Ramirez, but he's a sick note and cannot be relied on... get rid in the summer if poss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Luxury player who will come up with the pass/dribble/move/goal of the week every other month, and not turn up any time in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Not worth the money we paid for him - with a squad as thin as ours, we cannot afford for a player of his supposed ability not to step up when he's needed. As others have said, he's made of glass and not suited to the Prem really. Get rid in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 He had a good first half today. He needs a run in the side and a goal for confidence. Keep The Faith! Oh Jesus, you have to earn your place in the side, not blind faith as he played a blinder in the indoor the other Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Oh Jesus, you have to earn your place in the side, not blind faith as he played a blinder in the indoor the other Monday. You think He is s***e. I know. You've mentioned it. I love watching him. I don't think he has shown his best yet. I hope to see more of him. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 This basically, operated much better between the line then both Lambert and Lallana. Quick and incisive. Cant disagree with his glass legs though, he needs games and he is always injured, I suppose today couldve been a reoccurance of his last injury. So quick so incisive his efforts came to the grand total of **** all, as per, the clappers are similar to the catholic Church only admitting in the 80's the Earth was actually round and not square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 You think He is s***e. I know. You've mentioned it. I love watching him. I don't think he has shown his best yet. I hope to see more of him. Done. I hope the best is to come from Beckham as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 I hope the best is to come from Beckham as well. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Did I just read that Ramirez was an unknown?? What next, will someone say we should swap places with Sunderland?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 What? Meaning its come, been and ****ed off, it aint happening, 2 years into a 4 year deal and the clappers still ask him to be given more time, never in the history of the club have we had such a molly coddled little daisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Probably the last we'll see of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Did I just read that Ramirez was an unknown?? What next, will someone say we should swap places with Sunderland?? The question was about at the time, having the brass balls to go for it, open bus still on for 8th-10th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 He's s***e. He's a daisy. He's a Carlos Kickaball. Whatevs BS. You are the footballing guru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Looked very good today, but probably at the expense of the team. We had too many players looking to create and no-one actually getting in goalscoring positions. Given Lamberts poor display I'd drop him for Gallagher next game and keep Ramirez in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 He's s***e. He's a daisy. He's a Carlos Kickaball. Whatevs BS. You are the footballing guru. I know, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonwindmill Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Whatevs BS. Those initials are monumentally appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Those initials are monumentally appropriate. Being supreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 I sometimes wonder if the pace and power of the Premier League is just too much for him. Given more time on the ball you can see how dangerous a player he could prove to be because Gaston can pick out a pass with the best of them. Unfortunately you seldom find yourself with the luxury of time in the rough and tumble of the PL. Perhaps this player lacks something of the instinctive awareness of where other players are on the pitch needed to perform successfully in the English game, a sense of situational awareness that very obviously some of his less naturally gifted team mates (players such as Jack Cork or Steve Davis for instance) seem to possess in spades. I must also add that considering how much he cost us he is also disappointingly 'one footed' in style. He is still young enough to learn how to adapt to the demands of our game I suppose, but frankly he's been here a while now and the signs are he may never be the world class young player we were promised he was when we signed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 How long are we to wait for Ramirez to come good. Do we have the time to wait or will we always be waiting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 To say I expect more of him is an understatement - particularly when he gets onside and rather than cushion the ball down, takes it in the face and falls over. I defended him early on as I felt he was the victim of unfair expectation when he signed, but he's had ample opportunity to prove himself and in my view, not done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 If you view Gaston on the Saints mould of a player bought young to improve rather than a player bought for a club record fee (at the time)then the same player it could be argued as a success or failure. Imagine we paid good money for a promising left back and every time he got forward he seemed to delay the vital ball or make the wrong decision , or we developed a promising left back and every time he got forward he seemed to delay the vital ball or make the wrong decision half this board would slag him off the other half give him time Forget his fee, view the player, today he was looking for the ball and yes he did get forward, quite what he was attempting in the box I dont know but he for me sparkled in a lacklustre team performance caused by a stout defence by Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 If you view Gaston on the Saints mould of a player bought young to improve rather than a player bought for a club record fee (at the time)then the same player it could be argued as a success or failure. Imagine we paid good money for a promising left back and every time he got forward he seemed to delay the vital ball or make the wrong decision , or we developed a promising left back and every time he got forward he seemed to delay the vital ball or make the wrong decision half this board would slag him off the other half give him time Forget his fee, view the player, today he was looking for the ball and yes he did get forward, quite what he was attempting in the box I dont know but he for me sparkled in a lacklustre team performance caused by a stout defence by Cardiff Like Bale did for Spurs? Views Ramirez as solely a player and you see he is only there because of his fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Being supreme. Blatant skate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 I fear that he is never going to deliver for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 He's not going to be playing for us next season is he? Is any further debate to this relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 An average squad player in our position. Worthy of a place on the bench but put to shame by most of the rest of the team, most of whom cost us a great deal less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Seen enough now to suggest he's never going to make it in the premiership he's had two years+ to improve he has skill but it is better suited to a continental league where you have time on the ball. Personally would cash in while he's still worth something could be a decent player at the right club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 Blatant skate Oh Michael you are a tart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 How many more chances are the Gaston fans going to give him. He's been a complete and utter waste of money, even the incident when he got injured today was pathetic. Looked like a ballerina trying to bring the ball down in a great position. The sooner we get rid the better. Contrast his impact with the one punch has made at palace and then compare the fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 So quick so incisive his efforts came to the grand total of **** all, as per, the clappers are similar to the catholic Church only admitting in the 80's the Earth was actually round and not square. You talk some unmitigated ******** at times but you are surpassing yourself tonight. Ramirez was one our best players today and he was clearly injured when he went off. But of course you could not possibly be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 April, 2014 Share Posted 12 April, 2014 So quick so incisive his efforts came to the grand total of **** all, as per, the clappers are similar to the catholic Church only admitting in the 80's the Earth was actually round and not square. Theres no point in me trying to explain the game of football to you Dune as A. I expect your on a wind up and B. Im pretty sure you just wont understand. Basically you will always struggle with AL, RL and GR in a front three as none of which look to make a run in behind. All in all though of those three GR was the one that looked like he would make something happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 How many other examples are there of players who had a poor and injury prone 1st 2 seasons at a club coming good in the end for that club? And how many of those were players were bought from abroad with no premier league experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Did I just read that Ramirez was an unknown?? What next, will someone say we should swap places with Sunderland?? No i think its time we offload Cork On Ramirez.... I think he will come good next season imho he just needed 2 years to settle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 No i think its time we offload Cork On Ramirez.... I think he will come good next season imho he just needed 2 years to settle Make a poll of it. What would people prefer, offloading Cork for another Lovren quality CB or swap places with Sunderland. I think it will be a close one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 (edited) Given Lamberts poor display I'd drop him for Gallagher next game and keep Ramirez in. Seriously ? So the only genuine goalscorer we have, you would drop ? I think you are giving young Gallagher more credit than he has earned yet. Isn't about time the people that write off Rickie after a bad performance learnt their lesson ? He wasn't that poor yesterday, Lallana wasn't exactly setting the world alight either. The only question I would ask with Rickie was with Jay Rod out why oh why didnt he play more through the middle with Lallana and Gaston floating either side......but thats more to do with the manager than Lambert. As for Gaston, I really dont know, he is an enigma, can look really good then can look awful. Produces some lovely touches and passes then can pass straight to the opposition with no pressure on him. Edited 13 April, 2014 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Contrast his impact with the one punch has made at palace and then compare the fee. Are we really still talking about Puncheon? Come on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I think he'd be a very good player in a less physical and fast paced league (Serie A) but just can't cut it in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Are we really still talking about Puncheon? Come on I'm not saying we shouldn't have let him go or indeed should buy him back. I am just contrasting his performances for palace with Gaston's for us. If anybody thinks Gaston will come good in a saints shirt , they are deluded. He is not good enough, time to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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