Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon is having another brilliant season - 6 goals in his last 12 games. Ramirez is earning £65k pw & doing.... Mmm nothing Did we offload the wrong player? Sure looks like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 If football was played in hindsight we'd be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 So you agree we made a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon isn't really having a brilliant season though. Up until the last few weeks the majority of Palace fans wanted shot, he's picked it up in the last 4-5 weeks for sure, but to say he's had a brilliant season is a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon isn't really having a brilliant season though. Up until the last few weeks the majority of Palace fans wanted shot, he's picked it up in the last 4-5 weeks for sure, but to say he's had a brilliant season is a bit silly. Punch has had a brilliant season, compared to Ramirez!! “Jason is playing ever so well for us, we don't want to sell him and I don't think we'll be talking about selling him when the season is over” Crystal Palace manager Tony Pulis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon is having another brilliant season - 6 goals in his last 12 games. Ramirez is earning £65k pw & doing.... Mmm nothing Did we offload the wrong player? Sure looks like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon would have been great to play selected games. Like the cup game at Sunderland for instance. He was playing awesome for us. One of 3 mp mistakes with Clyne being left out and signing of osvaldo IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon would have been great to play selected games. Like the cup game at Sunderland for instance. He was playing awesome for us. One of 3 mp mistakes with Clyne being left out and signing of osvaldo IMO. Cork was mopos 5th choice midfielder at start of season? Add that to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 If football was played in hindsight we'd be brilliant. This, if we discussed at the start of January GS we all know you would have got rid of Puncheon and would've rather kept Ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
channonwindmill Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Did we turn down an offer for Ramirez then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 This, if we discussed at the start of January GS we all know you would have got rid of Puncheon and would've rather kept Ramirez http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?46326-Puncheon-to-Palace-Official-(Season-Loan)/page3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 This, if we discussed at the start of January GS we all know you would have got rid of Puncheon and would've rather kept Ramirez No chance. Puncheon was playing v well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon is having another brilliant season - 6 goals in his last 12 games. Ramirez is earning £65k pw & doing.... Mmm nothing Did we offload the wrong player? Sure looks like it Never thought I'd see the day I agree with Glasgow about something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Would puncheon have got in the team ahead of Lallana, Rodriguez and Lambert? I don t think so. Ramirez has suffered because of the other players success. Put Ramirez in the palace team full of mediocrity and you would probably be saying the same thing about Ramirez that it was a mistake to let him go. Pointless thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Cork was mopos 5th choice midfielder at start of season? Add that to the list What should we do? Sack Poch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon is having another brilliant season - 6 goals in his last 12 games. Ramirez is earning £65k pw & doing.... Mmm nothing Did we offload the wrong player? Sure looks like it Thick head, show me how ramirez is on 65k a week? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Thick head, show me how ramirez is on 65k a week? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Tbf he's not on much less than that - apparently about 50k with bonuses. Source: Some article I read once or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Neither of them are good enough. But one is supposed to be international class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 One player wants to be here. One player didn´t want to be here....and left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Cork was mopos 5th choice midfielder at start of season? Add that to the list Wasn´t that when......yeah we were winning games and were 3rd in the table? What happened then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I'm sure it's just a matter of time before Jason throws his toys out of the pram again and wants a move to a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 One player wants to be here. One player didn´t want to be here....and left. I think its more a case of. One player didn't want to be here and found a club to pay us what he's worth. And one player doesn't want to be here , but nobody will pay anything like the money we paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Thick head, show me how ramirez is on 65k a week? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk From the horses mouth - And Ramirez explained that, financially, the offer from Southampton is simply delicious. “It is the classic ‘you cannot refuse’ offer. “I have got a four-year contract with some big numbers. “They give me so much money – €2M net per year and €1M for signing.” €2M net per year = £1,650,000 GBP (net) £1,650,000 net = £3,093,750.00 (Gross) £3,093,750.00 / 52 = £60,000 Add the 1 million Euro bonus = £4k per week (over 4 year contract) £64k per week!! doh I was £1k out Sent from my SM-N9005 using my thick head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Glasgow in attention seeking anti Gastón shock! Ramirez is the better player: he is younger, more athletic, more skillful and more capable of making something from nothing than Punch, and one of his better traits: he seems to be better at bringing out the most annoying in Glasgow, Alpine and BS than Punch! Win win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Right, unless Ramirez has had a salary increase you are absolutely talking nonsense about his salary!! I have seen his salary slips!! He is on £32k pw. Dont want to say how as it will impact who showed me, but He is NOT on £65k pw!!!!! As for Puncheon having ANOTHER brilliant season............................must have missed the first one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Right, unless Ramirez has had a salary increase you are absolutely talking nonsense about his salary!! I have seen his salary slips!! He is on £32k pw. superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I was surprised how quickly Puncheon was out of favour as soon as Pochettino got here, for me Puncheon had eaten humble pie, got on the bus and along with Rickie was in contention for our player of the season. I thought he injected pace and directness into our game, something we lacked when he stopped getting games until Rodriguez upped his game this season. Puncheon would be a great squad player now and could have slipped in for Rodriguez, instead we have Ramirez a player unsuited for Premier league football. Puncheon was sensational in that QPR away game, a game that really got our season going and gave us belief. Can't understand why he was ostracised by the management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 some people are so desperate to disagree with glasgow and barry that they will defend the indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 that being said, puncheon didn't want to be here. he might have been as bad as ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Cork was mopos 5th choice midfielder at start of season? Add that to the list Never disappoint in your ability to show how little you know about football.. Start of season, say first 12 games? Yes Cork was down the pecking order. MP didn't have a clue did he? Strange we were fifth and had only let in 7 goals, 3 less than anyone else, level on points with Man City. God MP looks an idiot for those early season mistakes. Luckily sorted now, although only due to VW's injury! Bet MP agrees with you and us embarrassed now! Hopefully he can see his stupidity. Now VW kept out last 12...we are 10th and let in 22 goals. Bet he regrets that start... ....doh! Think you need to try bit harder to make of wind up criticisms. You really are off your game....did you not see those current form tables someone kept posting showing how we have deteriorated since Cork came in? ... Who started those threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 some people are so desperate to disagree with glasgow and barry that they will defend the indefensible. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 that being said, puncheon didn't want to be here. he might have been as bad as ramirez. Exactly. He was good for us last year but not a player we'll move forward with. Ramirez probably won't be either but at least has the potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 superb Agree about that. If he wanted to show a bit of credibility he should´ve said he read it on facebook. He´ll learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 superb Have you ever got a mortgage??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I do find it incredible that most fans are better at managing the team than Poch, perhaps we chose the wrong man. Then again with the benefit of hindsight my mum could pick a winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Have you ever got a mortgage??? You gave Ramirez his mortgage? He earns 32k pw net or gross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Gross. He gets add ons for goals, win bonus, assists etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Howjafeelnow GS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Gross. He gets add ons for goals, win bonus, assists etc. If youve seen his wage slip, which im sure you have Ramirez is a liar as he said And Ramirez explained that, financially, the offer from Southampton is simply delicious. “It is the classic ‘you cannot refuse’ offer. “I have got a four-year contract with some big numbers. “They give me so much money – €2M net per year and €1M for signing.” One of you is lying!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Gross. He gets add ons for goals, win bonus, assists etc. So you saw his contract aswell as his payslip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Can you link the actual article GS? If I remember correctly, the figures were quotable to the journalist not Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 So you saw his contract aswell as his payslip? Why so surprised about that? MP´s contract is all over facebook, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Why so surprised about that? MP´s contract is all over facebook, remember? Feel free to discuss or dispute that here http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49098-The-real-reason-that-we-sacrificed-the-cups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I must admit with JRod crocked it would be nice to have Puncheon. BUT before JRod got injured I don't think he would have got many minutes on the pitch. Also, my understanding (I'm NOT ITK) was that Puncheon wanted to go to Palace and it's common sense not to try & keep a player who dosn't want to be at the club. Gaston is a talented footballer. His problem is that at the moment he is not as good as Lallana and that there is only really space for one of them in the team. If Gaston wants to stay & fight fo his place I think he will repay the money spent in due course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I must admit with JRod crocked it would be nice to have Puncheon. BUT before JRod got injured I don't think he would have got many minutes on the pitch. Also, my understanding (I'm NOT ITK) was that Puncheon wanted to go to Palace and it's common sense not to try & keep a player who dosn't want to be at the club. Gaston is a talented footballer. His problem is that at the moment he is not as good as Lallana and that there is only really space for one of them in the team. If Gaston wants to stay & fight fo his place I think he will repay the money spent in due course Yours and everyone else's understanding. Seems to have a thing about south east London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Puncheon isn't really having a brilliant season though. Up until the last few weeks the majority of Palace fans wanted shot, he's picked it up in the last 4-5 weeks for sure, but to say he's had a brilliant season is a bit silly. Still contributed more in the last few weeks than The Gash ever will for us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Still contributed more in the last few weeks than The Gash ever will for us... Scary, but sadly very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 I assume your next thread will be Do Prado and Puncheon, followed by Mayuka and Puncheon. What about comparing him with penalty takers, or actually against players who would have been competing him for his place. Can you just let us know his goal scoring ratio when he played for us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Did we offload the wrong player? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 April, 2014 Share Posted 13 April, 2014 Seems only five minutes ago that most of you wanted puncheon hung drawn and quartered for wearing jeans and for coming inside all the time. Wonder if in the future Ramirez will be used as the yard stick for the next whipping boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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