Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2766121/Southampton-owner-Katharina-Liebherr-doing-good-job-era-foreign-egomaniacs.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2766121/Southampton-owner-Katharina-Liebherr-doing-good-job-era-foreign-egomaniacs.html Decent read, but was hoping for a little more detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 We are back in the top 6 and now the Daily Fail loves us again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2766121/Southampton-owner-Katharina-Liebherr-doing-good-job-era-foreign-egomaniacs.html a few obvious observations and "guarded compliments" ....but losing...." a well-loved Chairman " ? Really? Who does he mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I've read that article four times and I still can't find Adrian Durham's usual "edgy" (i.e. contrary for the sake of creating an argument) angle. I think I need a lie down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 September, 2014 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2014 a few obvious observations and "guarded compliments" ....but losing...." a well-loved Chairman " ? Really? Who does he mean ? You only need to look at the thread confirming a certain someone's resignation from SFC to work that out. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 That is a horrendously written article, using those crappy statement sentences so beloved by local news nowadays. It is awful to read as there's no flow to it, and it's completely jarring, distracting and detracts from the actual content. In short, some words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 You only need to look at the thread confirming a certain someone's resignation from SFC to work that out. :-) Oh Him. well I'm sure his wife loved him, but who else ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 That is a horrendously written article, using those crappy statement sentences so beloved by local news nowadays. It is awful to read as there's no flow to it, and it's completely jarring, distracting and detracts from the actual content. In short, some words. I thought the same. It reads as though it has been written by someone on work experience. Still, it's praise in the Daily Hate so I guess it's a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Saints have been a success story since Alan Pardew left them at the wrong end of League One just over four years ago Errr, didnt Pardew leave us just after winning our first trophy in 30 odd years? The above makes it sound like he got us to the bottom of L1 and legged it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 In an era of egomaniacs buying football clubs, picking teams for managers, and earning a fortune out of our clubs Apart from possibly the Glazers at United, are there really that many people making "fortunes" off clubs? I thought they were generally considered a blackhole for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Apart from possibly the Glazers at United, are there really that many people making "fortunes" off clubs? I thought they were generally considered a blackhole for money. Ashley judging by Newcastle's net spend annually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Ashley judging by Newcastle's net spend annually. What was their spend in the summer? Did they sell many people? I know they bought in a few, but can't really remember? Sincere questions btw, I'm not trying to be facetious I genuinely can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I've read that article four times and I still can't find Adrian Durham's usual "edgy" (i.e. contrary for the sake of creating an argument) angle. I think I need a lie down... I am convinced that he and "Gouphie" toss a coin to see who is going to take which side of the argument every evening. Also his campaign against Wenger is laughable. He says he doesn't have anything against him but takes every opportunity to slag him off. Talksport isn't blessed with many good broadcasters (Hawksby and Jacobs are the only people worth listening to) but Durham is very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 What was their spend in the summer? Did they sell many people? I know they bought in a few, but can't really remember? Sincere questions btw, I'm not trying to be facetious I genuinely can't remember TRANSFERS IN June 14: Ayoze Perez - Tenerife (undisclosed) June 14: Jack Colback - Sunderland (free) July 14: Siem de Jong - Ajax (undisclosed) July 14: Remy Cabella - Montpellier (undisclosed) July 14: Emmanuel Rivière - Monaco (undisclosed) July 14: Daryl Janmaat - Feyenoord (undisclosed) August 14: Facundo Ferreyra - Shakhtar Donetsk (season-long loan) August 14: Karl Darlow - Nottingham Forest (undisclosed) August 14: Jamaal Lascelles - Nottingham Forest (undisclosed) TRANSFERS OUT May 14: Dan Gosling - AFC Bournemouth (free) May 14: Conor Newton - Rotherham United (free) May 14: Jonathan Mitchell - Derby County (free) May 14: Shola Ameobi - released May 14: Michael Richardson - released May 14: Steven Logan - released May 14: Brandon Miele - released June 14: James Tavernier - Wigan Athletic (undisclosed) June 14: Romain Amalfitano - Dijon (undisclosed) July 14: Mathieu Debuchy - Arsenal (undisclosed) July 14 - Sylvain Marveaux - Guingamp (season-long loan) August 14: Adam Campbell - Fleetwood Town (one-month loan) August 14: Karl Darlow - Nottingham Forest (season-long loan) August 14: Jamaal Lascelles - Nottingham Forest (season-long loan) September 14: Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa - AS Roma (season-long loan) September 14: Hatem Ben Arfa - Hull City (season-long loan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 TRANSFERS IN June 14: Ayoze Perez - Tenerife (undisclosed) June 14: Jack Colback - Sunderland (free) July 14: Siem de Jong - Ajax (undisclosed) July 14: Remy Cabella - Montpellier (undisclosed) July 14: Emmanuel Rivière - Monaco (undisclosed) July 14: Daryl Janmaat - Feyenoord (undisclosed) August 14: Facundo Ferreyra - Shakhtar Donetsk (season-long loan) August 14: Karl Darlow - Nottingham Forest (undisclosed) August 14: Jamaal Lascelles - Nottingham Forest (undisclosed) TRANSFERS OUT May 14: Dan Gosling - AFC Bournemouth (free) May 14: Conor Newton - Rotherham United (free) May 14: Jonathan Mitchell - Derby County (free) May 14: Shola Ameobi - released May 14: Michael Richardson - released May 14: Steven Logan - released May 14: Brandon Miele - released June 14: James Tavernier - Wigan Athletic (undisclosed) June 14: Romain Amalfitano - Dijon (undisclosed) July 14: Mathieu Debuchy - Arsenal (undisclosed) July 14 - Sylvain Marveaux - Guingamp (season-long loan) August 14: Adam Campbell - Fleetwood Town (one-month loan) August 14: Karl Darlow - Nottingham Forest (season-long loan) August 14: Jamaal Lascelles - Nottingham Forest (season-long loan) September 14: Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa - AS Roma (season-long loan) September 14: Hatem Ben Arfa - Hull City (season-long loan) Ok ta. So clearly hard to judge, with so many 'undisclosed' fees. But I can't imagine they raked in a killing off Tavernier, Amalfitano & Debuchy. They clearly spent a lot more than they bought in - they it's true they didn't spend a great deal of the Cabaye money in January. Still, I doubt Ashley is taking home a huge wedge from all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 'It’s not the setbacks that are important – it’s how you respond to them.' That is worth making into a banner; IT IS NOT SETBACKS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. IT'S HOW WE RESPOND TO THEM In other words, two fingers to our mealy mouthed critics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Debuchy was about £12m, Tavernier and Amalfitano would have been bugger all, Wigan haven't spent much this summer and Dijon are a French second division side so they've got no money either. Estimates suggest Newcastle had a net spend of about £20m this summer, which is about even from the sale of Cabaye in January. Ashley is still about £120m down on his Newcastle investment, he took over their debts personally to save on the interest payments. I see no problem in him gradually recouping that money over time, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 That is a horrendously written article, using those crappy statement sentences so beloved by local news nowadays. It is awful to read as there's no flow to it, and it's completely jarring, distracting and detracts from the actual content. In short, some words. Its still the closest anyone in the nationals has come to an apology for joining in/promoting the feeding frenzy of the summer. Take Martin Samuels' latest effort yesterday, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Does make you smile at the media game of Jenga, once again we are riding high and the media are beginning to blow sunshine up our backside while building a pile of wooden blocks under us, come December they will all start pulling the blocks out praying for another tumble to provide column inches for tomorrow's chip paper. Whilst on that article the bit at the bottom about the remaining Prima Donnas at Manure having a heated moan at Van Gaal about "why the hell he took off di Maria" at 3-3 must have David Moyes smiling quietly to himself. Just as amazing Arsenal will only let Vermalen go to Man U if Smalling goes the other way!!! Arsenal must have sussed out how to play the media superbly as that has to be a Red Herring swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Its still the closest anyone in the nationals has come to an apology for joining in/promoting the feeding frenzy of the summer. And what about you I do not remember you being very calm about the situation in the Summer but of course I maybe wrong and got you mixed up with someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Ok ta. So clearly hard to judge, with so many 'undisclosed' fees. But I can't imagine they raked in a killing off Tavernier, Amalfitano & Debuchy. They clearly spent a lot more than they bought in - they it's true they didn't spend a great deal of the Cabaye money in January. Still, I doubt Ashley is taking home a huge wedge from all that. Fair enough, thought their net spend was lower, Ashley's only made about 19mill net in total from player sales since he came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Fair enough, thought their net spend was lower, Ashley's only made about 19mill net in total from player sales since he came in. To be honest I was surprised it was that high too, though when factoring the Cabaye deal it's about break even. As SG said above, Ashley has pumped a lot of his own money into the club taking on a lot of debt that just hasn't really been talked about - and their fans just seem to forget about when they moan about him. Granted he's made some odd decisions, and hasn't pushed them forward as they would like - but I think they could really have much worse owners than they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 And what about you I do not remember you being very calm about the situation in the Summer but of course I maybe wrong and got you mixed up with someone else. To be fair though, no-one particularly pays attention to Alipne whereas the Daily Mail is read by literally dozens of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Newcastle made a POST tax profit last year of £9m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Durham has been smoking something....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2766102/Arsenal-fans-never-learn-Arsene-Wenger-does-not-deserve-credit.html One Gooner even said to me: 'It was a great weekend because all our rivals dropped points!' Rivals for what? Top four? I think you’ll find Southampton won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 And what about you I do not remember you being very calm about the situation in the Summer but of course I maybe wrong and got you mixed up with someone else. So what about me ? I am a fan of the team and have an emotional investment. He's a bellend of a journo with an arrogant built-in bias towards big clubs who is being paid to sell copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Oh Him. well I'm sure his wife loved him, but who else ?... Markus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 He's a bellend of a journo with an arrogant built-in bias towards big clubs who is being paid to sell copy. I'll add to that, in that he says the most ridiculous of things a lot of the time just so that he can "create" a debate. He does it so often that when he doesn't, it's hard to take him seriously. His radio show, when teamed up with Gough, is truly appalling and usually I have to turn it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 game of Jenga, once again we are riding high and the media are beginning to blow sunshine up our backside while building a pile of wooden blocks under us. Remind me not to play Jenga with you JBS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Markus agreed, but Markus didn't have to work for him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 agreed, but Markus didn't have to work for him..... nor did his wife (or maybe she did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Errr, didnt Pardew leave us just after winning our first trophy in 30 odd years? The above makes it sound like he got us to the bottom of L1 and legged it. The comment about Pardew having left Saints at the wrong end of League One is entirely wrong. In any other job an error like that would warrant a dressing down but when the press have their knife in someone's back as they have with Pardew, truth doesn't matter. In 2010, Pardew took Southampton to within one place of the play-offs, despite the 10-point deduction that he inherited, and his team won the Johnson's Paint Trophy, the club's first trophy since 1976. When Pardew left in the August he bequeathed his successor (Nigel Adkins) a team that included future England players Lambert and Lallana, and which went on to win promotion. His place in Southampton's rise should not be under-estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 The comment about Pardew having left Saints at the wrong end of League One is entirely wrong. In any other job an error like that would warrant a dressing down but when the press have their knife in someone's back as they have with Pardew, truth doesn't matter. In 2010, Pardew took Southampton to within one place of the play-offs, despite the 10-point deduction that he inherited, and his team won the Johnson's Paint Trophy, the club's first trophy since 1976. When Pardew left in the August he bequeathed his successor (Nigel Adkins) a team that included future England players Lambert and Lallana, and which went on to win promotion. His place in Southampton's rise should not be under-estimated. You could take it further and say 3 WC 2014 players (including Morgan). We were bottom end, but it was like 2/3 games in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 To be honest I was surprised it was that high too, though when factoring the Cabaye deal it's about break even. As SG said above, Ashley has pumped a lot of his own money into the club taking on a lot of debt that just hasn't really been talked about - and their fans just seem to forget about when they moan about him. Granted he's made some odd decisions, and hasn't pushed them forward as they would like - but I think they could really have much worse owners than they do. The debt at Newcastle hasn't been paid off at all. It is instead an interest free loan that Ashley has every intention of re-couping so the debt is still very much there. There is also the small matter of using St James Park as a blank cancas to advertise Sports Direct and the coverage he gets as a result when the advertising space could be better put to use by selling it to other companies. Ashley is turning a profit at Newcastle, there is no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 So what about me ? I am a fan of the team and have an emotional impediment. He's a bellend of a journo with an arrogant built-in bias towards big clubs who is being paid to sell copy. Fixed that that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Its still the closest anyone in the nationals has come to an apology for joining in/promoting the feeding frenzy of the summer. Take Martin Samuels' latest effort yesterday, for example. The 4th positive article about Saints I've seen in 24hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 So everyone is sure that 'Fat Kat' has stopped assert stripping and adding to her shoe and handbag collection with saints money then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 So everyone is sure that 'Fat Kat' has stopped assert stripping and adding to her shoe and handbag collection with saints money then? Well, what are your opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Although it is the first in months that doesn't feel the repetitive fkn repetitive fkn repetitive need to list the out goings in the first paragraph of any Saints related item. They've gone, we know it, they know it, the hacks know it, even people who have no care or interest in football fkn know it. PLEASE PRESS GIVE IT A FKN MISS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Well, what are your opinions? I like Kat, always have. Think we've got a great owner and if you read any of my posts over the summer you'd know this. I suspect you did though as seeing as you've just quoted me again it seems you've lied about having me on ignore then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I like Kat, always have. Think we've got a great owner and if you read any of my posts over the summer you'd know this. I suspect you did though as seeing as you've just quoted me again it seems you've lied about having me on ignore then But your posts aren't about how great Kat is they're about how crap other fans are and any mistake they have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I like Kat, always have. Think we've got a great owner and if you read any of my posts over the summer you'd know this. I suspect you did though as seeing as you've just quoted me again it seems you've lied about having me on ignore then I don't think I've ever had anyone on ignore. I've thought about it, but I don't believe I ever did it, or said I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 (edited) I don't think I've ever had anyone on ignore. I've thought about it, but I don't believe I ever did it, or said I did. Apologies it wasn't you who said it Edited 23 September, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 But your posts aren't about how great Kat is they're about how crap other fans are and any mistake they have made. I'll think you'll find I've always been very supportive and took a lot of flack for it, particularly over the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I'll think you'll find I've always been very supportive and took a lot of flack for it, particularly over the summer I always assumed your support was ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 I always assumed your support was ironic Dont you mean moronic ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Dont you mean moronic ? Talking of which http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?49711-Genuinely-worried-about-next-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 Oh dear. He we go again. My fault for giving his pathetic tedious life new meaning, no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 23 September, 2014 Share Posted 23 September, 2014 So everyone is sure that 'Fat Kat' has stopped assert stripping and adding to her shoe and handbag collection with saints money then? Hey I can laugh at myself for what I said over the summer. You take yourself too seriously EH. BTW it's assets not asserts LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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