ecuk268 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: I thought they said there was no 'terrorist' link rather than 'political' link... Isn't violence for political ends terrorism?
hypochondriac Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: That’s not entirely my impression. Raise the Colours activists got behind suspects online enmasse for attacks like this on a regular basis https://news.sky.com/story/council-pulls-down-large-number-of-flags-after-racist-park-attack-13441679 Plenty of support was found online for these incidents too https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/lamppost-flag-campaign-founder-charged-murder-5HjdZt2_2/ and this person was arrested at the Unite the Kingdom March https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx217901n00o You could pull up examples of equal shittiness from the person at Aberdeen Uni, and some of the comments on Charlie Kirk at the time. I find it equally vile and a serious illness on our democracy. The reporting doesn’t help often either in terms of enciting grievance on either side of the extreme margins. Let's be honest. If Nigel Farage was killed by some lunatic you wouldn't get anywhere near the reaction that we got for the horrible murder of Jo Cox for example. Many people would be suggesting he deserved it and the media response would be mixed at best.
trousers Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Let's be honest. If Nigel Farage was killed by some lunatic you wouldn't get anywhere near the reaction that we got for the horrible murder of Jo Cox for example. Many people would be suggesting he deserved it and the media response would be mixed at best. "He's one of those c***s, innit..." 1
aintforever Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, egg said: I thought they said not politically linked initially, but may be wrong. I thought they just said there was no evidence to suggest it was at that stage, or words to that effect. That obviously changes when they find evidence to the contrary and then they call in the anti-terrorism lot. Seems like standard procedure to me. Edited 18 hours ago by aintforever
whelk Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Let's be honest. If Nigel Farage was killed by some lunatic you wouldn't get anywhere near the reaction that we got for the horrible murder of Jo Cox for example. Many people would be suggesting he deserved it and the media response would be mixed at best. I don’t know what point you are making? Some people obviously polarise opinion more than others. I don’t think ‘many’ would be suggesting it would be deserved and is this just in your mind? 2
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 16 minutes ago, whelk said: I don’t know what point you are making? Some people obviously polarise opinion more than others. I don’t think ‘many’ would be suggesting it would be deserved and is this just in your mind? Are you suggesting that we would have a similar reaction in general to the Jo Cox murder if Farage was killed in a similar fashion?
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Are you suggesting that we would have a similar reaction in general to the Jo Cox murder if Farage was killed in a similar fashion? there would be people literally dancing in the street if Farage left us, more so if taken by a lunatic. 1
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: there would be people literally dancing in the street if Farage left us, more so if taken by a lunatic. If Jeremy Corbyn or Zack Polanski were horribly murdered I genuinely don't believe there would be much in the way of celebration or playing down the atrocity apart from perhaps a small minority. I am sure there would be a significant amount of that though were it to happen to someone like Farage. Edited 7 hours ago by hypochondriac
rallyboy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I found Widdicombe to be a consistently offensive politician who went to great lengths to be really unpleasant to several sections of society. And I'm quite happy to laugh at some of the darkest things, but some 'jokes' that are doing the rounds are not actually funny - for instance, It's Hammer Time! 😞 Really? A frail old lady is battered to death in her own kitchen by a fucking lunatic, I'm not really seeing the funny side. 2
whelk Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 34 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Are you suggesting that we would have a similar reaction in general to the Jo Cox murder if Farage was killed in a similar fashion? I think everyone but a few psychopaths would be appalled yes. 2
hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 26 minutes ago, whelk said: I think everyone but a few psychopaths would be appalled yes. Hopefully it never happens but if it did, I would be extremely surprised to see a similar reaction (and tributes to mark the ten year anniversary etc.) I'm surprised that you would think that the general reaction in public, in Parliament and in the media would generally be the same. 1
egg Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 48 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Hopefully it never happens but if it did, I would be extremely surprised to see a similar reaction (and tributes to mark the ten year anniversary etc.) I'm surprised that you would think that the general reaction in public, in Parliament and in the media would generally be the same. I'm not sure what makes you think there'd be a different reaction to a brutal murder of a politician based on whether they're on the left or the right. I think this is a you issue. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago The delight outwardly shown when maggie popped her clogs is an indicator, for sure 1 1
egg Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: The delight outwardly shown when maggie popped her clogs is an indicator, for sure If Starmer had died suddenly or in tragic circumstances, do you think the flag wavers would have mourned or celebrated his passing? We all know the answer, so let's stop with this 2 tier mourning bollox. 3
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