Nolan Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 Let's put it different way. Locksy. We're negotiating a more Centrist political position for you. I want you to be more Blairite, but you want to stay commun... Sorry corbynite. Do you stay and negotiate and resolve to be Brownite? Or do you walk away with your hammer and sickle? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 (edited) May's Brexit negotiating technique is "If you don't give me what I want I'll walk out in front of a bus". Trouble with that is the only two responses are 'no you wont' or 'good'. Edited 2 June, 2017 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 Let's put it different way. Locksy. We're negotiating a more Centrist political position for you. I want you to be more Blairite, but you want to stay commun... Sorry corbynite. Do you stay and negotiate and resolve to be Brownite? Or do you walk away with your hammer and sickle? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Again I don't have a clue what you're talking about. Post by post you prove that you're a bit dim. You do bring one benefit to this thread, however: I've come to the realisation I miss Les. He was a towering intellect compared to you. #allisforgivenles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 Then only let us have trade if we have complete open borders if we pay 450m a week and give up Gibraltar. No deal would be better than that, as that is a bad deal. Sorry, but this is gibberish. Did you mean the opposite of what you've written here? Either way, it's beside the point. If we on a football message board can work out that May is either stupid or utterly devoid of any leverage in the negotiations, I'm pretty sure that EU trade negotiators know the score. It's like the scene in Blazing Saddles...you know the one. And as if May couldn't look any more useless: she's not only run a campaign so bad it's made Jeremy Corbyn look competent; she's managed to say precisely not one word yet about Trump's withdrawal from the Paris agreement. There's been a flurry of statements and urgent consultations this evening, with France, Germany and Italy saying they will spearhead the EU's pursuit of the Paris accord's key objectives; The Chinese and Russians have made strong statements criticising the decision. And Merkel has been on the phone to Trump to tell him what an idiot he is. From May, absolutely nada - and you can guess why. Spineless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 From May, absolutely nada - and you can guess why. Spineless. Perhaps she thinks it's great that having promised to do so during the election , he stuck to his promise Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 http://www.itv.com/news/2017-06-01/may-disappointed-in-trumps-decision-to-pull-us-out-of-landmark-global-climate-change-deal/ Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 Why can't he talk to the Jewish news? Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Why can't she debate in front of the entire nation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 June, 2017 Share Posted 1 June, 2017 Will this do? #schtickoverload Had to laugh at the Tory on the radio this morning saying if your local care home has no money you should organise a charity marathon not ask for more funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Why can't she debate in front of the entire nation? The entire nation? Lol, did you see the viewing figures. Why can't pious lefties like Linekar & Geldoff pay their taxes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 The entire nation? Lol, did you see the viewing figures. Why can't pious lefties like Linekar & Geldoff pay their taxes? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Come on, bet you're a fan of akala. Brillo (pmsl) seemed to warm to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 In English please. Come on mate. Go back to my basic rules on negotiation. Go over them again. I was really hoping you would have got the hang of it by now, me old pedigree chum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 (edited) It's nonsense to say we have no leverage. The fact that the EU won't (apparently) countenance negotiating future relationship terms until they've secured an agreement over the "divorce" bill shows there is some leverage. If we walked away without paying anything beyond our last date of membership it would be a major cock-up for them. What would certainly diminish our leverage considerably would be the knowledge that there was to be a further referendum to approve or reject the final deal (as per Farron's cack-brained / disingenuous suggestion). There's a lot to legitimately criticise May for but sticking to a tough / slightly hyperbolic script in the preamble to negotiations is not one of them IMO. The bigger criticism is the complete waste of time being caused by this election. This should have happened promptly after the referendum result or not at all. We are just wasting time on the Article 50 clock. Edited 2 June, 2017 by benjii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Come on mate. Go back to my basic rules on negotiation. Go over them again. I was really hoping you would have got the hang of it by now, me old pedigree chum I forgot, Baldrick, the next 12-18 months were going to see such a step-change in trade from the EU to the rest of the world that Brussels would be putty in hands of British negotiators. Not to mention that elections in Netherlands, France and Germany were going to bring eurosceptic populists to power and fatally erode support for the EU, making UK goodwill more important than ever. How's all that working out? #artofthedeal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 The bigger criticism is the complete waste of time being caused by this election. This should have happened promptly after the referendum result or not at all. We are just wasting time on the Article 50 clock. This. Don't the EU negotiations start just 11 days after the election result? Will be a right cluster **** if it is a hung parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 It's nonsense to say we have no leverage. The fact that the EU won't (apparently) countenance negotiating future relationship terms until they've secured an agreement over the "divorce" bill shows there is some leverage. If we walked away without paying anything beyond our last date of membership it would be a major cock-up for them. What would certainly diminish our leverage considerably would be the knowledge that there was to be a further referendum to approve or reject the final deal (as per Farron's cack-brained / disingenuous suggestion). There's a lot to legitimately criticise May for but sticking to a tough / slightly hyperbolic script in the preamble to negotiations is not one of them IMO. The bigger criticism is the complete waste of time being caused by this election. This should have happened promptly after the referendum result or not at all. We are just wasting time on the Article 50 clock. Agree with all of that, good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 June, 2017 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2017 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 ... I'd settle for an intact NHS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 No idea if that is true or not - but if it is its almost as if her campaign managers are trying to sabotage her. Either that or she is having a breakdown and cant hack the pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Absolutely unverifiable. But she's on BBC South tonight if that helps... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Hopefully one less for the blues: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-40129826 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Absolutely unverifiable. But she's on BBC South tonight if that helps... Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk She's in York. And she's just turned down another request from Corbyn to have an actual debate instead of a solo grilling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Apparently this is currently at number 4 in the charts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Tory's will win and win comfortably.......they will have at least a 50 seat majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Tory's will win and win comfortably.......they will have at least a 50 seat majority. 50 seats has to be the very minimum given where she was a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 50 seats has to be the very minimum given where she was a few weeks ago. they are the polls. They are all over the place depending on where you look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 June, 2017 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2017 I'd settle for an intact NHS. We've only got 24 hours to save it I'm hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 What is it with lefties. Fist question in QT tonight."Why won't you debate & answer questions" ". I'd have answered " I'm here on question time debating with voters , The clue is in the title you **** wit " She's started well imo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Doing brilliantly well at not answering questions. The pinball format of the questioning suits her evasiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 May doing much better tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Someone at the BBC is going to hauled over the coals tomorrow. Way too balanced audience . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 What I'd like to know is is there a magic money tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Faltering a bit on public sector pay. Too rigid. Needs to be more empathetic. She can give it the "money tree" line but still act like she cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 i think that woman needs to be on suicide watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 i think that woman needs to be on suicide watch She is sh1t at explaining herself but don't think it has got that bad yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 May doing her usual, stumbling over her words and using generic sound bites to answer questions. She just repeats these stock phrases that are related to the subject area regardless of the detail of the question. Will be interested to see Corbyn later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 May doing her usual, stumbling over her words and using generic sound bites to answer questions. She just repeats these stock phrases that are related to the subject area regardless of the detail of the question. Will be interested to see Corbyn later. it will be spend spend spend.....of course, it will sound great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 It is just me who hates her teenage boy-breaking high/low voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 It is just me who hates her teenage boy-breaking high/low voice? Probably Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 it will be spend spend spend.....of course, it will sound great Invest, grow, tax. Invest, grow, tax. Don't you know you have to speculate to accumulate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Classy Now deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 it will be spend spend spend.....of course, it will sound great Not necessarily a Labour voter but Corbyn does speak with a lot more conviction than May does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Invest, grow, tax. Invest, grow, tax. Don't you know you have to speculate to accumulate? You forgot the bit about repaying the borrowing. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 2 June, 2017 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2017 What I'd like to know is is there a magic money tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Apparently this is currently at number 4 in the charts... Look for the video online today, they got him on to talk about the song not being played and he said the BBC editor had asked him not to go too heavy on the Tories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Classy Now deleted Account reported and deleted for impersonation. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 Amazing the sort of memes you can dream up especially with four times the level of donations to pay the media team for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 http://jonjayray.tripod.com/notyourmoney.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 I think Corbyn has not had a good one so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 June, 2017 Share Posted 2 June, 2017 I think Corbyn has not had a good one so far Spoke such a fcking neutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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