derry Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. As did I. I think the problem is that a lot of people haven't picked up on how the poll is working. A little reading can go a long way - unfortunately that's a little more reading than many appear to have done. If Ron isn't in the A team it'll be a travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Maybe some people just don't want him in the A team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 I agree, he's not getting into the team at this rate. Come on everybody, click on the poll and VOTE FOR RON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 I don't know, how stupid can people be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2009 I agree, he's not getting into the team at this rate. Come on everybody, click on the poll and VOTE FOR RON! You don't want him in the A team. Is that it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 I agree, he's not getting into the team at this rate. Come on everybody, click on the poll and DON'T VOTE FOR RON UNTIL THE A-TEAM IS RELEASED! This is what you meant right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Surely the poll for the A team should have come first. How can you vote for a B team when you dont know who is in the A team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 This is democracy in action - flawed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Why vote for the B team first????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. If this is the universal truth you seem to think it is then how come he never made the A Team on his own merit in the Right Side. For my money, whether better that Ron on an individual basis or not, I'm going for Phil Boyer in the A Team as he is more suited to the left side and would be a better foil for Channon with his intelligent runs. On the right side - Davies every time, but Boyer for me on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2009 If this is the universal truth you seem to think it is then how come he never made the A Team on his own merit in the Right Side. For my money, whether better that Ron on an individual basis or not, I'm going for Phil Boyer in the A Team as he is more suited to the left side and would be a better foil for Channon with his intelligent runs. On the right side - Davies every time, but Boyer for me on the left. A lot of people were going for Channon and Davies as the strikers and voted for Channon as the first part of the double. I did. Boyer was a good little player, but if Paine is wide right and the three have played together, somebody is needed to head in Paine's crosses. Ron Davies at his peak with us was arguably the best striker in the world and virtually unplayable in the air. That could never be said of Boyer. But I respect everybody's right to vote anyway they want. If people are voting for Ron to get him out of the A team, that is wrong. This pole should have been done after the A team selection of both strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 How come the poll is 4-4-2? Surely we should be voting on 4-4-1-1 or 4-3-3. Maybe we could have A & B polls for different formations. That would simplify things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Surely the poll for the A team should have come first. How can you vote for a B team when you dont know who is in the A team? Exactly. Blame the people who set it up this way, not the voters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Nick Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Why vote for the B team first????? Because we're Southampton, and like to do things differently from normal clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 The problem is the stupid, mongish idea to vote for a ****ing B Team - who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Why vote for the B team first????? If there is more than one topic to vote on one of them has to be first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 (edited) Surely a vote is just that, an independant vote of confidence. People can vote for whom they wish and should not be swayed from their vote by somebody elses wishes. Anyway, I vote for John Sergeant - every time - irrespective of form. Ohhhh is this not a BBC run vote - I thought it was, based purely on the apparent chaos...!! Edited 15 January, 2009 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 The problem is the stupid, mongish idea to vote for a ****ing B Team - who cares. I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Why are people so intent on rigging this vote? There have been some suspicious decisions made by some of the moderators/admin in order to achieve the result that they want or think we should have. Some posters seem to want to spend all day trying to convince me of my own mind. Well seeing as "suggestions" are all the rage at the moment, I would like to suggest that anyone telling us who to vote for should be (1) banned from voting (2) suspended from this site. I think the people who are guilty of ruining the vote know who they are and I will plead with you to stop before another part of my club becomes soiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Why are people so intent on rigging this vote? There have been some suspicious decisions made by some of the moderators/admin in order to achieve the result that they want or think we should have. Some posters seem to want to spend all day trying to convince me of my own mind. Well seeing as "suggestions" are all the rage at the moment, I would like to suggest that anyone telling us who to vote for should be (1) banned from voting (2) suspended from this site. I think the people who are guilty of ruining the vote know who they are and I will plead with you to stop before another part of my club becomes soiled. Has it escaped your attention that this is in fact an internet forum? Just wondered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 15 January, 2009 Share Posted 15 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. exactly, and we all know who is doing it. Ron deserves, more than anyone, to win this poll. He is in second now but there is still time to get him to number one. Message to people who haven't yet voted: Please please read what you're voting for, ffs! Ron, IMO, deserves the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 exactly, and we all know who is doing it. Ron deserves, more than anyone, to win this poll. He is in second now but there is still time to get him to number one. Message to people who haven't yet voted: Please please read what you're voting for, ffs! Ron, IMO, deserves the vote. You wrote it but you don't seem to understand it. It is just that - your opinion. Others will have differing opinions and will vote so. Please try to understand that not everybody in the world will concur with you - and at the moment you sound like a spoiled boy in a sweetshop. In the unlikely event that Ron should venture on here - I'm sure that he will be more than flattered by the level of support that he has got. I'm also sure that if he doesn't win 'the vote' he will also take it in very good grace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 He could win if everyone got their fingers out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I am not voting for him to get in either team because I have never seen him play, so I dont know if he is any good or not! I can understand people wanting to campaign for favourite players, but this is geting out of hand a bit with the voting being manipulated or people encouraging others in order to manipulate the vote. You need to deal with the fact that a lot of posters on here would not have seen the likes of Davies or Paine and want to vote for the best players they have seen. If people want Ron Davies in the B team, then so be it. No disrespect to the bloke meant, if he was as good as you lot say, he must have been a great player for the club, and I have sympathy for his current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 just posted on the vote our top two look like being Pahars and Moran with some second rate forwards of Davies and Keegan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Its OK, after some negotiations Ive managed to get him into The A Team: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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david in sweden Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. the whole idea of a first team WITHOUT Ron Davies is ridiculous! Although both Paine, Channon and MLT have scored more goals over their 16 YEAR careers with Saints, Ron's goal tally of 134 in barely 6 seasons is fantastic by comparison, and he must surely be the highest scoring no.9 (an out and out CF) and second only to the legendary Bill Rawlings in 1920's. How can he be omitted. I can only assume the poll has been voted on by many fans who are too young to have remembered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 What I don't get is why the 3rd & 4th place just go into the B team, or am I not gettings this? Voting for a B team before the A team is strange :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Where do I vote for John Sargeant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Where do I vote for John Sargeant... Too late - I already have - post 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Too late - I already have - post 18. Typical, not only rigged, but my jokes were leaked too!!! Sack the moderators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 (edited) the whole idea of a first team WITHOUT Ron Davies is ridiculous! Although both Paine, Channon and MLT have scored more goals over their 16 YEAR careers with Saints, Ron's goal tally of 134 in barely 6 seasons is fantastic by comparison, and he must surely be the highest scoring no.9 (an out and out CF) and second only to the legendary Bill Rawlings in 1920's. How can he be omitted. I can only assume the poll has been voted on by many fans who are too young to have remembered him. This is NOT the bloody first team, RTFQ, It's the bloody SECOND team FFS. The ones voting on here for Ron Davies are either those who think he is great but are too stupid to understand the rules, or DON'T WANT HIM IN THE VOTE FOR THE A TEAM NEXT WEEK. Voting him into this SECOND team DISQUALIFIES him from being picked for the A team. Edited 16 January, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 This is NOT the bloody first team, RTFQ, It's the bloody SECOND team FFS. The ones voting on here for Ron Davies are either those who think he is great but are too stupid to understand the rules, or DON'T WANT HIM IN THE VOTE FOR THE A TEAM NEXT WEEK. Vote him in this team DISQUALIFIES him from being picked for the A team. Can he not play for both teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Can he not play for both teams? NO, it's one or the other. If he is picked here for the second team he cannot be selected in the A team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 NO, it's one or the other. If he is picked here for the second team he cannot be selected in the A team. I'm still voting for him for the B team and then i'll vote for him for the A team aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I'm still voting for him for the B team and then i'll vote for him for the A team aswell. That's where your wrong, if he wins this one he is excluded from the A team. He will be the second team striker. The best striker becomes third choice if voted in here, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 That's where your wrong, if he wins this one he is excluded from the A team. He will be the second team striker. The best striker becomes third choice if voted in here, I think somebody is trying to wind you up - nay not trying - succeeding. I can see you, your face is red, your eyes bulge from thier sockets, steam eminates from your ears, you're pulling your hair out, your head is about to explode....!!! The John Sergeant debacle must have driven you to distraction...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 I think somebody is trying to wind you up - nay not trying - succeeding. I can see you, your face is red, your eyes bulge from thier sockets, steam eminates from your ears, you're pulling your hair out, your head is about to explode....!!! The John Sergeant debacle must have driven you to distraction...! Not at all, it's a poll. St Landrew has already chucked his hand in over it. At the end of the day if Ron Davies is in the B team and not the A team the **** will hit the fan. I wouldn't mind betting this poll will be scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 just cos he has a trick hip and stuff doesn't mean he should be in the 'A' team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Not at all, it's a poll. St Landrew has already chucked his hand in over it. At the end of the day if Ron Davies is in the B team and not the A team the **** will hit the fan. I wouldn't mind betting this poll will be scrapped. Calm down mate - it's an internet poll - probably being enjoyed by about 100 people - if that. It wont be the end of the world if you don't get your own way. If the BBC can make such a flamming horlicks of SCD on national television with millions of people polling, and then manage to bodge it, I'm pretty confident that the Mods can come up with some kind of arbitration in order to restore parity here. If people are 'chucking their hand' as you put it, based purely on the fact that they are not going to get their own way - then perhaps they should go visit the real world occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2009 He is the moderator that managed the poll. Read back and you'll see he has said he won't do any more polls, because of the criticism. In any event it has served it's purpose. If he was excluded from the A team I'm sure there would be a reaction. The problem really is that the rules are simple but not simple enough for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 He is the moderator that managed the poll. Read back and you'll see he has said he won't do any more polls, because of the criticism. In any event it has served it's purpose. If he was excluded from the A team I'm sure there would be a reaction. The problem really is that the rules are simple but not simple enough for some people. Sorry to hear that it has gone 'titsup'. T'was not my intention to spoil the party, was just taken by the verment argument over who people should and should not vote for - I don't think Barrack campaigned this hard to get the Presidential vote...! Perhaps after the mod has cooled off he might rethink his decision - good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 why do people have to ruin it and try and tell others how to vote...ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 January, 2009 Share Posted 16 January, 2009 Unless people stop voting for him in the current B team poll and vote for Keegan, Ron Davies is going to be barred from the A team. If he is voted in this week to the B team, he can't be nominated for the A team next week. How stupid can people be. I want Ron Davies as our greatest striker so I voted for Keegan as second best this week. It's a bit daft imo to have a poll for the B team before the A team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 17 January, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 January, 2009 Thr right result in the end, Keegan won the B team Poll, now for the main one. Ron Davies for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 17 January, 2009 Share Posted 17 January, 2009 I'm surprised so many people on here saw him play, to be honest. I certainly didn't so my vote can't really go there, can it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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