Tamesaint Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 Good news at last for this poor woman and her family. I never thought I would say this but well done Liz Truss. She has always appeared to be a bit dim and something of an intellectual lightweight pretending to be something she isn't. The political equivalent of Weston Super Saint but she has come up with the goods this time. Of course Truss's success as Foreign Secretary in this matter contrasts somewhat with the performance of our buffoon of a PM when he was Foreign Secretary. He made things worse for Ratcliffe by his bumbling nonsense. I wonder if he is now looking fearfully over his shoulder at Truss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 Wonderful news! Does that mean we finally coughed up the £400m we owed Iran? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golactico Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 Fingers crossed that Johnson doesn't make any last minute, untruthful comments (like he did when he was Foreign Secretary), to make the Iranians change their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: Wonderful news! Does that mean we finally coughed up the £400m we owed Iran? Probably, plus some covert oil assurance agreement filtered through non-sanctioned 3rd countries I'd imagine. The timing is too interesting to ignore. Good news for her and her family, obviously. Edited 16 March, 2022 by Plastic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 1 hour ago, Tamesaint said: Good news at last for this poor woman and her family. I never thought I would say this but well done Liz Truss. She has always appeared to be a bit dim and something of an intellectual lightweight pretending to be something she isn't. The political equivalent of Weston Super Saint but she has come up with the goods this time. Of course Truss's success as Foreign Secretary in this matter contrasts somewhat with the performance of our buffoon of a PM when he was Foreign Secretary. He made things worse for Ratcliffe by his bumbling nonsense. I wonder if he is now looking fearfully over his shoulder at Truss Great news ofc, but as Plastic says, almost entirely due to releasing the £400m of Iranian the UK has been holding pretty much illegally for 30 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 (edited) The Yanks are saying that the UK may have gone against an agreement, reiterated last week, that we would be working jointly to ensure that all UK and US dual nationals held in Iran would be treated as a job lot as far as negotiating their release. Edited 16 March, 2022 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 Reuters reporting money has been paid. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-says-it-has-settled-historic-debt-iran-2022-03-16/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 3 hours ago, Manuel said: Reuters reporting money has been paid. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk-says-it-has-settled-historic-debt-iran-2022-03-16/ Absolutely nothing to do with the money, it's just a coincidence that they have happened at the same time : Quote Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian said Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe and Mr Anoosheh had been freed on "humanitarian grounds" and that it would be "wrong" to link the UK's payment of its debt to Iran to their release. Sauce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 16 March, 2022 Share Posted 16 March, 2022 Two entirely separate transactions. Only a conspiracy theorist would think otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 Liz Truss contributed nothing to this - we simply had to pay a debt that should have been cleared decades ago. A shambolic episode, featuring several governments and far too many accountants. Disgraceful that a family were dragged into it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 Appalling that he is trying to make political capital out of this, especially as he actually made matters worse for her as Foreign Secretary. I hope the family go after compensation. That is the least they deserve after being caught in the middle of an international problem over an unpaid debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 30 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Appalling that he is trying to make political capital out of this, especially as he actually made matters worse for her as Foreign Secretary. I hope the family go after compensation. That is the least they deserve after being caught in the middle of an international problem over an unpaid debt. We owed the debt under a labour government as well Soggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 28 minutes ago, Turkish said: We owed the debt under a labour government as well Soggy. Blaming the Tory's??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, rallyboy said: Liz Truss contributed nothing to this - we simply had to pay a debt that should have been cleared decades ago. A shambolic episode, featuring several governments and far too many accountants. Disgraceful that a family were dragged into it. You have presumed she done nothing wrong. What if she was/is a spy, or conducted work for the UK Govt against Iran? Is that possible? Edited 17 March, 2022 by AlexLaw76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Blaming the Tory's??? I guess he blames them for his own debts so why not everyone elses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 17 March, 2022 Author Share Posted 17 March, 2022 1 hour ago, jawillwill said: The man has no shame. When he was ("the worst in living memory") Foreign Secretary the fat fucker's blundering approach made Zagharri Ratcliffe's plight a lot worse. Most people would have kept quiet about "huge achievements for British diplomacy" in case of comparison with his own track record - but not our shameless PM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Blaming the Tory's??? I didn’t say that did I? I blame everyone involved in it but Johnson seems to be trying to take credit for something that he made worse therefore, yes, he needs to take some of the blame don’t you think? And do you honestly believe that she is a spy? Edited 17 March, 2022 by sadoldgit Add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: I didn’t say that did I? I blame everyone involved in it but Johnson seems to be trying to take credit for something that he made worse therefore, yes, he needs to take some of the blame don’t you think? And do you honestly believe that she is a spy? I have absolutely no idea to say either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 3 hours ago, Turkish said: We owed the debt under a labour government as well Soggy. But she was arrested and imprisoned whilst the UK had Tory Governments, and BoJo's idiotic and uninformed comments as FS made her plight worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 58 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I have absolutely no idea to say either way. Not seen anything on your favourite media feeds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 Any chance that Iranian oil suddenly starts arriving in UK refineries to make up the shortfall due to the boycott on Russian fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Not seen anything on your favourite media feeds ? Oh right, do you know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 13 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Any chance that Iranian oil suddenly starts arriving in UK refineries to make up the shortfall due to the boycott on Russian fuel. Not unless the USA are on board with lifting sanctions, which is very unlikely. The timing of all of this is very interesting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 22 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: But she was arrested and imprisoned whilst the UK had Tory Governments, and BoJo's idiotic and uninformed comments as FS made her plight worse. the debt is irrelevant then, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: the debt is irrelevant then, yes? The debt was not irrelevant, but it hung over for years until the Tories made things worse. Why do you think there were no hostages earlier if the debt had been around since the Islamic Revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 22 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Oh right, do you know for sure? I can form my own opinion rather than having it given to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 4 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: I can form my own opinion rather than having it given to me. Ok then. Good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 28 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: The debt was not irrelevant, but it hung over for years until the Tories made things worse. Why do you think there were no hostages earlier if the debt had been around since the Islamic Revolution. Didn't labour make things worse as well? I'm pretty sure there was a war on a islamic country under their watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 10 minutes ago, Turkish said: Didn't labour make things worse as well? I'm pretty sure there was a war on a islamic country under their watch. You do remember that Iran fought a war against Saddam Hussein for 8 years. Not sure they were that bothered by Desert Storm and it's successors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 21 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: You do remember that Iran fought a war against Saddam Hussein for 8 years. Not sure they were that bothered by Desert Storm and it's successors. Yep remember it well. Who knows, i guess you'll have to ask them. Glad to seee that some people are still believing that it's all the fault of the nasty tories that we've owed Iran money for 40 odd years though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Left Back Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 Would it help the warring tribes if we apportion blame on the basis of years in power? Of the 42 years since the Revolution I think the tories have been in power 29 and Labour 13. So 69% Tory fault and 31% labour. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 3 hours ago, sadoldgit said: I didn’t say that did I? I blame everyone involved in it but Johnson seems to be trying to take credit for something that he made worse therefore, yes, he needs to take some of the blame don’t you think? And do you honestly believe that she is a spy? Yep, he should take some of the blame. Since it was made 'better' under his watch (I doubt that he had anything to do with it personally, but he's the man in charge), will you give him any credit as well as the blame? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 5 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Yep, he should take some of the blame. Since it was made 'better' under his watch (I doubt that he had anything to do with it personally, but he's the man in charge), will you give him any credit as well as the blame? Credit Putin with focussing our minds on alternative sources of oil ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Credit Putin with focussing our minds on alternative sources of oil ? Seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 16 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Yep, he should take some of the blame. Since it was made 'better' under his watch (I doubt that he had anything to do with it personally, but he's the man in charge), will you give him any credit as well as the blame? In Soggys mind Johnson is the Les Reed of politics. Everything that goes wrong is because of him, everything that goes right is inspite of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 March, 2022 Share Posted 17 March, 2022 4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: I have absolutely no idea to say either way. On the balance of probability, what would you say, given that you usually don’t sit on the fence? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 See the racists and misogynists are out in force #sendherback #ungratefulcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 13 minutes ago, Winnersaint said: See the racists and misogynists are out in force #sendherback #ungratefulcow As ever with Twitter, when stuff like that is trending it’s 90% people letting everyone know how, "disgusted and appalled but sadly not surprised," they are that it’s trending, with no sense of irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 2 hours ago, Lighthouse said: As ever with Twitter, when stuff like that is trending it’s 90% people letting everyone know how, "disgusted and appalled but sadly not surprised," they are that it’s trending, with no sense of irony. Yep although there are clearly loads of wankers that Twitter collects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 Thought she looked pretty fit at her press conference and very self assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 2 minutes ago, whelk said: Thought she looked pretty fit at her press conference and very self assured. As good as Begum or Knox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: As good as Begum or Knox? Not comparable. Knox every time but added risk of being knifed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 March, 2022 Share Posted 22 March, 2022 1 hour ago, whelk said: Not comparable. Knox every time but added risk of being knifed Ratcliffe was pretty classy it's true. But Begum is absolute filth. Put the explosive jacket on for me you little minx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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