Tyler Dibling

[Sheaf Saint]

30 minutes ago, egg said:

Everton feels a good move to me - not too much expectation, but no real risk of relegation. 

Disagree on both counts. There would be plenty of expectation on him from their entitled fans, given the fee. And although they probably won't go down, I wouldn't bet against them being in the mix near the bottom. They've been flirting with it for a number of years and their squad really isn't all that good.

Edited 7 hours ago by Sheaf Saint

[John B]

5 hours ago, Chez said:

Certainly not while in the championship! 

The point I am making is that in the 60s when there was the maximum wage until the formation of the PL was that wages were really not that  high compared with today when nobody of real talent wants to play for the Saints

I was very lucky to see top class players like Ron Davies Peter Osgood Charlie Geopge FranK Worthing Peter Shilton and Alan Ball in Division2 play for us and we had loads of young players who played in the top division those days are of course over

Our youngsters seem to move very early and reasonable players do not want to extend their contracts.

It is difficult for clubs of our size to recruit players while many on here think the club is incompetent and abuse those in charge

By the way Terry Paine played in the 1966 World Cup before he had played a Div 1 game

[egg]

Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

Disagree on both counts. There would be plenty of expectation on him from their entitled fans, and although they probably won't go down I wouldn't bet against them being in the mix near the bottom. They've been flirting with it for a number of years and their squad really isn't all that good.

There's a world of difference between the expectations at a mid ISH table side and one fighting for something at either end of the table. We'll agree to differ, but Everton aren't going to be in a relegation fight with the promoted clubs and a weakened Brentford. 

[Oldandtired]

According to sky sports Everton are after Grealish on loan. Wonder if that will affect their interest inmTD?

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

According to sky sports Everton are after Grealish on loan. Wonder if that will affect their interest inmTD?

As someone else said above, I think it's just media posturing. (and they are after a couple of attackers fwiw).

The Dibling deal has gone too far down the line to not happen in my opinion. Given that he's training alone to avoid any contact injuries suggest to me that negotiations are active, on-going and probably intending to be finished rather shortly.

[IOWSaintDaz]

Goodbye Tyler, thanks for the memories, hope it works out better than last time at Chelsea

[Oldandtired]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

As someone else said above, I think it's just media posturing. (and they are after a couple of attackers fwiw).

The Dibling deal has gone too far down the line to not happen in my opinion. Given that he's training alone to avoid any contact injuries suggest to me that negotiations are active, on-going and probably intending to be finished rather shortly.

Apologies, I missed the earlier post about it.

Edited 6 hours ago by Oldandtired

[Gloucester Saint]

55 minutes ago, kitch said:

If it wasn't in the Scum, I'd have been encouraged by this claim.

It’s not unreasonable though, no sign of him being offered nor signing a new deal, and he’s not had a particularly great pre-season under Still. Nor does he look any more likely to be able to play in a central two for Still’s preferred formations.

He’s at an age where he needs to/wants to start regularly, especially to stay in the RoI set up, so as long as Saints aren’t silly about the fee - £2-4m seems fair - I can see him departing for the right Championship club. 

[beatlesaint]

17 minutes ago, IOWSaintDaz said:

Goodbye Tyler, thanks for the memories, hope it works out better than last time at Chelsea

If it doesn’t he’s screwed, there’s no way back from this. It was only 3 years ago that happened. His gratitude was somewhat short lived 

[miserableoldgit]

Everton have completed the signing of midfielder Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall from Chelsea for a fee of about £28m.

[OldNick]

1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said:

Everton have completed the signing of midfielder Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall from Chelsea for a fee of about £28m.

good player

[Lee On Solent Saint]

59 minutes ago, IOWSaintDaz said:

Goodbye Tyler, thanks for the memories, hope it works out better than last time at Chelsea

Can't recall too many memories from last season he was involved in. Certainly not from after Martin was sacked.

[Chez]

39 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

If it doesn’t he’s screwed, there’s no way back from this. It was only 3 years ago that happened. His gratitude was somewhat short lived 

Gratitude? We didn't do him a favour. We gladly took him back because he was an amazing prospect...that one day should play for the first team, and perhaps then generate tens of millions for the club. The move back was beneficial to both parties, just as both are benefitting from this move. Saints are about to make £45m thanks to his talent. Sure we have invested time and effort and money, but the club is getting a shit load back here. 

[OldNick]

I think he was pretty good away at Man Utd, I think Juric was manager then

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Oldandtired said:

According to sky sports Everton are after Grealish on loan. Wonder if that will affect their interest inmTD?

they ain't getting both.

Grealish wages are astronomical.  Not sure what the transfer fee would be, but the combined deal has to be considerably more than Dibling, doesn't it? Obviously Grealish is a well proven international though.

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Chez said:

Gratitude? We didn't do him a favour. We gladly took him back because he was an amazing prospect...that one day should play for the first team, and perhaps then generate tens of millions for the club. The move back was beneficial to both parties, just as both are benefitting from this move. Saints are about to make £45m thanks to his talent. Sure we have invested time and effort and money, but the club is getting a shit load back here. 

Absolutely. We are incredibly fortunate that he wanted to come back. It's made us a shit load of cash. 

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, Chez said:

they ain't getting both.

That's not what many of their fans seem to think.

[Chez]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

That's not what many of their fans seem to think.

If it's a loan, that might change things. But it's still £15.6m a year in wages, plus a loan fee, perhaps...unless Man City going  fund part of the deal to get him off their wages bill.

They need two right sided players though...not sure Grealish plays on that side, does he? 

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

If it's a loan, that might change things. But it's still £15.6m a year in wages, plus a loan fee, perhaps...unless Man City going  fund part of the deal to get him off their wages bill.

They need two right sided players though...not sure Grealish plays on that side, does he? 

I can't recall ever seeing him play on the right.

[SuperSAINT]

23 minutes ago, OldNick said:

good player

I was worried he was going to turn into the modern day Danny Drinkwater. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said:

It’s not unreasonable though, no sign of him being offered nor signing a new deal, and he’s not had a particularly great pre-season under Still. Nor does he look any more likely to be able to play in a central two for Still’s preferred formations.

He’s at an age where he needs to/wants to start regularly, especially to stay in the RoI set up, so as long as Saints aren’t silly about the fee - £2-4m seems fair - I can see him departing for the right Championship club. 

We turned down a £7m offer for Smallbone a while back from Sheffield United. I guess he's worth what someone will pay, and there aren't many championship clubs with £7m floating about.

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I can't recall ever seeing him play on the right.

I still fancy it is one or the other, but perhaps McNeil can shuffle across to the right, Ndyai on the left, Alcaraz in the middle. Competition from Dibling, Dewsbury-Hall and Grealish. If I was an Everton fan, I'd be pretty happy with that strengthening. They got a new striker too to challenge Beto. #WishWeWereEverton

[RedArmy]

57 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Can't recall too many memories from last season he was involved in. Certainly not from after Martin was sacked.

 

He dribbles that ball so much. 

[Give it to Ron]

9 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

 

He dribbles that ball so much. 

Ah Mickey Thomas

[saintant]

If Everton get Grealish I can't see them wanting Dibling as well. If so not sure who else is interested in Tyler at the fee we're asking so he may end up with no choice but to stay.

[Saint86]

25 minutes ago, saintant said:

If Everton get Grealish I can't see them wanting Dibling as well. If so not sure who else is interested in Tyler at the fee we're asking so he may end up with no choice but to stay.

If we see no further signings but keep dibling and Fernandes, I would say we'll have had a pretty great window. Especially if dibling signs an extension. That to me would be us having a team with a spine or players that can step up to the prem. Others seem to think it's great to sell dibling for 35M and seem excited at the prospect of someone like  fellows for 20M...

Edited 3 hours ago by Saint86

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

If we see no further signings but keep dibling and Fernandes, I would say we'll have had a pretty great window. Especially if dibling signs an extension. That to me would be us having a team with a spine or players that can step up to the prem. Others seem to think it's great to sell dibling for 35M and seem excited at the prospect of someone like  fellows for 20M...

I think most would prefer to keep them but everyone is also realistic and that's not going to happen. 

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, saintant said:

If Everton get Grealish I can't see them wanting Dibling as well. If so not sure who else is interested in Tyler at the fee we're asking so he may end up with no choice but to stay.

Well, City have just told Everton that they’ll only let Grealish go there if 100% of his wages are covered. He’s on £300k a week 🤣

So if it’s one or the other, maybe just maybe the Dibling deal is starting to look more attractive again, even on our outrageous terms. 

Hold your nerve Spors, this lot have left it too late, they’ve fucked it, and they’ll end up paying what we want just to save face. 

[SuperSAINT]

I don’t see them walking away from Tyler.  Neither do we.

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Well, City have just told Everton that they’ll only let Grealish go there if 100% of his wages are covered. He’s on £300k a week 🤣

So if it’s one or the other, maybe just maybe the Dibling deal is starting to look more attractive again, even on our outrageous terms. 

Hold your nerve Spors, this lot have left it too late, they’ve fucked it, and they’ll end up paying what we want just to save face. 

Who is gonna pay that 😂😂

It’s  a shame from Grealish although hes won the lot and earnt great money as a player never reached the potential he had, I loved watching him when he was at Villa and early days at City. 

[Midfield_General]

14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Who is gonna pay that 😂😂

It’s  a shame from Grealish although hes won the lot and earnt great money as a player never reached the potential he had, I loved watching him when he was at Villa and early days at City. 

Yeah, it's a waste of a talent as it stands. But if City aren't going to compromise, there are only a handful of clubs who can realistically pay that sort of wage, and none of them want him. Saudi's probably his best bet at this stage. So unless Al-Nassr or someone comes in for him, or he's prepared to take a wage cut, he's screwed. Although he could drop his wages by a third and still be on £200k per week, which still isn't too shabby really is it. 

[SuperSAINT]

 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Yeah, it's a waste of a talent as it stands. But if City aren't going to compromise, there are only a handful of clubs who can realistically pay that sort of wage, and none of them want him. Saudi's probably his best bet at this stage. So unless Al-Nassr or someone comes in for him, or he's prepared to take a wage cut, he's screwed. Although he could drop his wages by a third and still be on £200k per week, which still isn't too shabby really is it. 

Grealish has more money than god, I am sure. City are probably telling clubs that they will not be subsidising his wages if he went out on loan.

Instead of Saudi, he could opt to be on £150k per week, instead of more

[iansums]

Looks like he’s off, £45-50M maybe

[Chez]

9 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Everton fan tweets something that he has absolutely no way of knowing. Saintsextra amplifies it.

[Chez]

11 minutes ago, iansums said:

Looks like he’s off, £45-50M maybe

no shit.

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Grealish has more money than god, I am sure. City are probably telling clubs that they will not be subsidising his wages if he went out on loan.

Instead of Saudi, he could opt to be on £150k per week, instead of more

He isn't giving up on £7.5m a year. City will have to subsidise.

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Chez said:

He isn't giving up on £7.5m a year. City will have to subsidise.

oh of course. He could stay put and 'fight for his place'

fucking easy money

[Colinjb]

4 hours ago, Chez said:

they ain't getting both.

Grealish wages are astronomical.  Not sure what the transfer fee would be, but the combined deal has to be considerably more than Dibling, doesn't it? Obviously Grealish is a well proven international though.

Since when has 'Everton' and 'Financial Sense' ever been in the same sentence?

[SWLondon Saint]

41 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Who is gonna pay that 😂😂

It’s  a shame from Grealish although hes won the lot and earnt great money as a player never reached the potential he had, I loved watching him when he was at Villa and early days at City. 

Yeah, it's absolutely daft some of the stockpiling of talent and the money they're on. Everton aren't gonna want to spend £15+m just on his wages for 1 year. TD looks like a bloody bargain at £45m compared to that! 😂

[Saint86]

I tell you what, if they spend nearly 80M on 2 currently quite average prem level players (TD and KDH), they will be setting themselves up for a few more years of pain and struggle. That's a lot of money for a club like everton that really do have a poor first 11 currently 🤣😅

Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86

[Sheaf Saint]

6 minutes ago, Chez said:

He isn't giving up on £7.5m a year. City will have to subsidise.

I guess it depends how much he wants to go to the world cup next year. 

[Chez]

19 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I tell you what, if they spend nearly 80M on 2 currently quite average prem level players (TD and KDH), they will be setting themselves up for a few more years of pain and struggle. That's a lot of money for a club like everton that really do have a poor first 11 currently 🤣😅

alternatively, they are buying two talented players that strengthen their squad immediately and have the potential to really improve Everton over the next four or five years. 

Not sure they are that poor. Back end of the season ended 5 wins (Forest, Newcastle...) 7 draws (Arsenal, Liverpool...) and 3 defeats (City, Liverpool, Chelsea). 

I'm not fan of Everton, but I hope Dibling works out for them.

[saintant]

54 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

This is news how?

[SfcPhil]

It would be funny if after all of this Everton saga that another team swoops in at the last minute like @LeG alluded to.

Just can't see Liverpool, Spurs or United dropping £50m on him. 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Who is gonna pay that 😂😂

It’s  a shame from Grealish although hes won the lot and earnt great money as a player never reached the potential he had, I loved watching him when he was at Villa and early days at City. 

Was it Scott sinclair who was great at Swansea and then took the money to sit on city's bench and never did anything again? I know it's not quite the same thing but it's an awful shame when players do that. 

[hypochondriac]

15 minutes ago, saintant said:

This is news how?

It's not. If he doesn't put in a transfer request it's all a load of hot air.