Chez Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Saint NL said: I did NOT see that coming š did wonder if he might draw some interest. Obviously Leeds tried to sign him and I wondered if they might come back in for him.Ā Don't see a loan being a great solutions for us. 1
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Sounds like Still has very little input into the transfer dealings at all from that press conferenceĀ Must say I didnāt get that impressionĀ
CSA96 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Just now, Toadhall Saint said: Must say I didnāt get that impressionĀ No, me neither
trousers Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Bakovnetski said: https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-psv-make-move-to-sign-southamptons-cameron-archer/ PSV in for Archer Could we envisage an Archer out, Sargent in scenario.... maybe?
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Just now, trousers said: Could we envisage an Archer out, Sargent in scenario.... maybe? Nope unless they are both loans.
hypochondriac Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, trousers said: Could we envisage an Archer out, Sargent in scenario.... maybe? As much as I'd love us to sign Sargent ,has there been a single link to him coming to saints at any point during this window?
Wade Garrett Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Would be madness to loan Archer out. Ā Heās the best finisher we have. 10
spyinthesky Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Dont know what the general opinion is but I think Armstrong and Archer are very similar players. Shame we cant lose one and get a Chris Woods type centre forward to take advantage of crosses into the box unless Ross Edwards can step up. 1
jasonbenali Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: Dont know what the general opinion is but I think Armstrong and Archer are very similar players. Shame we cant lose one and get a Chris Woods type centre forward to take advantage of crosses into the box unless Ross Edwards can step up. Is he the love child of Ronnie Edwards and Ross Stewart? 7
Bakovnetski Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: As much as I'd love us to sign Sargent ,has there been a single link to him coming to saints at any point during this window? No there hasn't. But there wasn't anything apparent on Roerslav, Jander or Fellows. Without the CoT we are in the dark š Edited 21 hours ago by Bakovnetski 1 3
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Personally wouldnāt want to see Archer leave, I think heās our best finisher Conversely though, we just have far too many in that position so can absolutely see it 3
hypochondriac Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said: Personally wouldnāt want to see Archer leave, I think heās our best finisher Conversely though, we just have far too many in that position so can absolutely see it If it allows us to bring in another striker who might perform better in our system then I'd at least consider it. Without that though I wouldn't bother. 2
Bakovnetski Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: The skates aren't ready... Janker in for Downes maybeĀ 2
Winnersaint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Bakovnetski said: Janker in for Downes maybeĀ Wow Carsten Janker has finally signed, can play alongside Rudi Skacel. 7
Midfield_General Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Winnersaint said: Wow Carsten Janker has finally signed, can play alongside Rudi Skacel. #ThrowbackThursday
Sir Ralph Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: The skates aren't ready... Only one player (roerslav) from outside the UK and Ireland. Very much a home based team. In fact in our squad only Quarsie, roerslav and downs are non British or Irish. Quite interesting and maybe a tactic of the board / still? Edited 21 hours ago by Sir Ralph
Saint NL Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: The skates aren't ready... The British and Irish lions (and Mads)
Bakovnetski Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Winnersaint said: Wow Carsten Janker has finally signed, can play alongside Rudi Skacel. š¤£Ā oops, I meant Jander of courseĀ
OldNick Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I dont know if a loan can be sold under the club who have the loan but if Saints could sign the Stoke no 9 (Sent off) from Man City it would be wonderful, he is going to be hell of a player
stfrancisofbenali Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 53 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: This'll be interesting... Ā I am enjoying Still's simple, unruffled style, especially in comparison to the egotistical psycho-babble of Martin. 11
skintsaint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Only one player (roerslav) from outside the UK and Ireland. Very much a home based team. In fact in our squad only Quarsie, roerslav and downs are non British or Irish. Quite interesting and maybe a tactic of the board / still? Even Roerslav has spent nearly his entire playing career in England, so he is accustomed to the domestic game.Ā
OurClau5 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Long time observer of the forum, but have never actually contributed. Fernandes and Dibling wanted out all summer, as have a few others. Unfortunately for them, the rumoured interest has not actually materialised into real interest. My major qualms with SR are not that we let either player go, or the fees we have received. It's that we have allowed it to drag on longer than it needed to, and its undoubtedly disrupted the start of the season. Still saying "we just need to get through the first month" didn't need to be the case. Dibling in particular could have been sold earlier. I get SR want to maximise profit, but they should have taken stock in mid july and realised that, perhaps unsurprisingly, not many teams were interested in players from a side that barely got more points than Derby 07/08, and actively tried to move them, given they were highly unlikely to ever to stay. This has a major knock on effect to the recruiting too. We cant expect new signings from a different league/country, to hit the ground running with no pre-season and under a new manager. Its absolutely no surprise mads is the one who has settled quickest. We are now in a scenario where we have group of fans saying that we have to give players time, and another saying we need immediate performances. Both are right in my opinion, and both could have happened, had we got our business done earlier.Ā Finally, will add, ive worked at or alongside two clubs, one of which meant Ive spent time and interacted with a person prominent in SR (i'll be intentionally vague). The further away from the club we can move said individual, the better.Ā 16
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: Ā Farmer saint is going to lose his shit 1 9
Farmer Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Farmer saint is going to lose his shit Aaarrrrggghhhhhhh 1 5
Willo of Whiteley Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, OurClau5 said: Long time observer of the forum, but have never actually contributed. Fernandes and Dibling wanted out all summer, as have a few others. Unfortunately for them, the rumoured interest has not actually materialised into real interest. My major qualms with SR are not that we let either player go, or the fees we have received. It's that we have allowed it to drag on longer than it needed to, and its undoubtedly disrupted the start of the season. Still saying "we just need to get through the first month" didn't need to be the case. Dibling in particular could have been sold earlier. I get SR want to maximise profit, but they should have taken stock in mid july and realised that, perhaps unsurprisingly, not many teams were interested in players from a side that barely got more points than Derby 07/08, and actively tried to move them, given they were highly unlikely to ever to stay. This has a major knock on effect to the recruiting too. We cant expect new signings from a different league/country, to hit the ground running with no pre-season and under a new manager. Its absolutely no surprise mads is the one who has settled quickest. We are now in a scenario where we have group of fans saying that we have to give players time, and another saying we need immediate performances. Both are right in my opinion, and both could have happened, had we got our business done earlier.Ā Finally, will add, ive worked at or alongside two clubs, one of which meant Ive spent time and interacted with a person prominent in SR (i'll be intentionally vague). The further away from the club we can move said individual, the better.Ā Firstly, welcome! Secondly, that last bit has Rasmus Ankerson written all over it 7 4
hypochondriac Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 10 minutes ago, OurClau5 said: Long time observer of the forum, but have never actually contributed. Fernandes and Dibling wanted out all summer, as have a few others. Unfortunately for them, the rumoured interest has not actually materialised into real interest. My major qualms with SR are not that we let either player go, or the fees we have received. It's that we have allowed it to drag on longer than it needed to, and its undoubtedly disrupted the start of the season. Still saying "we just need to get through the first month" didn't need to be the case. Dibling in particular could have been sold earlier. I get SR want to maximise profit, but they should have taken stock in mid july and realised that, perhaps unsurprisingly, not many teams were interested in players from a side that barely got more points than Derby 07/08, and actively tried to move them, given they were highly unlikely to ever to stay. This has a major knock on effect to the recruiting too. We cant expect new signings from a different league/country, to hit the ground running with no pre-season and under a new manager. Its absolutely no surprise mads is the one who has settled quickest. We are now in a scenario where we have group of fans saying that we have to give players time, and another saying we need immediate performances. Both are right in my opinion, and both could have happened, had we got our business done earlier.Ā Finally, will add, ive worked at or alongside two clubs, one of which meant Ive spent time and interacted with a person prominent in SR (i'll be intentionally vague). The further away from the club we can move said individual, the better.Ā Great post and exactly right. The primary issue is that we haven't got some of these players in earlier. I accept we can't do all deals until near the end but we should have got some in to make the start easier.
Smirking_Saint Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Great post and exactly right. The primary issue is that we haven't got some of these players in earlier. I accept we can't do all deals until near the end but we should have got some in to make the start easier. Ill be honest⦠I donāt think getting Dibling or Fernandes out of the door would of necessarily accelerated our purchases of Fellows or Azaz tbh Boro or WBA probably donāt operate much differently to us, attempting to hold onto our best players until alternatives are lined up Pretty telling, atleast in Fellows case, that it was reported that we got in contact with WBA a litre while and the fact cogs are only moving now sort of highlights what was said originally around clubs securing other targets, or, waiting for other interested parties first As for Azaz, I think its because we were given good indication from Spertsyans reps that it was moving, such is football finance⦠my⦠āguessā is we enquired about Rudoni, told no, then moved to Azaz unless we enquired simultaneously Think Fellows was a separate deal entirelyĀ Edit - Just to add, and Ive said it before in here, due to my dealings past and present around the club I have been able to go to a few matches in the directors box over the last 36 months (my contacts gone now unfortunately) and have potentially met the same person as mentioned aboveā¦. Didnāt win me over I have to admit Edited 21 hours ago by Smirking_Saint 3
hypochondriac Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said: Ill be honest⦠I donāt think getting Dibling or Fernandes out of the door would of necessarily accelerated our purchases of Fellows or Azaz tbh Boro or WBA probably donāt operate much differently to us, attempting to hold onto our best players until alternatives are lined up Pretty telling, atleast in Fellows case, that it was reported that we got in contact with WBA a litre while and the fact cogs are only moving now sort of highlights what was said originally around clubs securing other targets, or, waiting for other interested parties first As for Azaz, I think its because we were given good indication from Spertsyans reps that it was moving, such is football finance⦠my⦠āguessā is we enquired about Rudoni, told no, then moved to Azaz unless we enquired simultaneously Think Fellows was a separate deal entirelyĀ Yes I think that's fair. The Spertsyan rubbish is possibly why things have dragged on as they have .
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 33 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Only one player (roerslav) from outside the UK and Ireland. Very much a home based team. In fact in our squad only Quarsie, roerslav and downs are non British or Irish. Quite interesting and maybe a tactic of the board / still? https://www.geordiebootboys.com/news/how-johannes-spors-may-have-talked-himself-out-of-newcastle-united-sporting-director-job/ 1
gio1saints Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) Itās not madness to sell Cameron. Itās absolutely the best time. He has gone missing so many matches and been invisible for so long in matches - then scores a beauty. I hope PSV watched that goal and thought he looks like a Ā£15m player. Iām taking the money because since heās been at Saints he has NOT looked that player week in week out. Once every ten or fifteen matches perhaps he scores or does a run that comes to it but, frankly, heās not been threatening and if that goal v Norwich means we get a decent fee Iām in!Ā Edited 20 hours ago by gio1saints 1
goodymatt Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, gio1saints said: Itās not madness to sell Cameron. Itās absolutely the best time. He has gone missing so many matches and been invisible for so long matches then scores a beauty. I hope PSV watched that goal and thought he looks like a Ā£15m player. Iām taking the money because since heās been at Saints he has NOT looked that player week in week out. Once every ten or fifteen matches perhaps he scores or dies a run that comes to it but, frankly, heās not been threatening and if that goal v Norwich means we get a decent fee Iām in!Ā Think they want a loan though?
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, gio1saints said: Itās not madness to sell Cameron. Itās absolutely the best time. He has gone missing so many matches and been invisible for so long in matches - then scores a beauty. I hope PSV watched that goal and thought he looks like a Ā£15m player. Iām taking the money because since heās been at Saints he has NOT looked that player week in week out. Once every ten or fifteen matches perhaps he scores or does a run that comes to it but, frankly, heās not been threatening and if that goal v Norwich means we get a decent fee Iām in!Ā Think itās a loan PSV are interested in.
gio1saints Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said: Think itās a loan PSV are interested in. Ah ok. He has a 2028 ending contract and is on reputed Ā£40k per week. Does well there and we can still sell him good price in 2026 - or retain for the EPL. His wages pays for Azaz for a start! Iām still pro letting him ( and BBD) leave.Ā
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: Firstly, welcome! Secondly, that last bit has Rasmus Ankerson written all over it Was just about to post the same.... 1
SWLondon Saint Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 15 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Great post and exactly right. The primary issue is that we haven't got some of these players in earlier. I accept we can't do all deals until near the end but we should have got some in to make the start easier. I'm not sure this is actually possible - it's just the way things work with a transfer 'window', unless a transfer is totally straightforward, it's always going to go on until just before a hard deadline. The only way to get Dibling or Fernandes sold in, say, July would have been to accept the initial bids, which would have cost us a season-changing amount of money, £15-20m less than we got. 8
Jack Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 34 minutes ago, stfrancisofbenali said: I am enjoying Still's simple, unruffled style, especially in comparison to the egotistical psycho-babble of Martin. Yeah 100%, you listen to him and generally agree with all of it, and donāt feel like youāre being sold a load of old shit. A refreshing change.Ā 3
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 7 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Itās not madness to sell Cameron. Itās absolutely the best time. He has gone missing so many matches and been invisible for so long in matches - then scores a beauty. I hope PSV watched that goal and thought he looks like a Ā£15m player. Iām taking the money because since heās been at Saints he has NOT looked that player week in week out. Once every ten or fifteen matches perhaps he scores or does a run that comes to it but, frankly, heās not been threatening and if that goal v Norwich means we get a decent fee Iām in!Ā How do we know whether that is down to the quality of service he's received rather than his own ability....? 1
benjii Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, Chez said: Cheers. That would be 13th biggest fee ever paid for a Bundesliga 2 player. That's an absolute Susan Boyle of a quiz question. 2
benjii Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Only one player (roerslav) from outside the UK and Ireland. Very much a home based team. In fact in our squad only Quarsie, roerslav and downs are non British or Irish. Quite interesting and maybe a tactic of the board / still? Which part of Ireland is Matski from? 1 3
gio1saints Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Just now, trousers said: How do we know whether that is down to the quality of service he's received rather than his own ability....? Occams razor time @trousers Cameron is always Cameron. But the players who are meant to provide for him are many and changeable. What is more likely - that multiple professional standard footballers Ā ( Iām talking dozens of players from our defence and midfield through to fellow attackers) cannot find Cameron with a pass or that he is at fault?Ā The most likely explanation is the one you should make your favourite.Ā Ā
Wade Garrett Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 15 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Itās not madness to sell Cameron. Itās absolutely the best time. He has gone missing so many matches and been invisible for so long in matches - then scores a beauty. I hope PSV watched that goal and thought he looks like a Ā£15m player. Iām taking the money because since heās been at Saints he has NOT looked that player week in week out. Once every ten or fifteen matches perhaps he scores or does a run that comes to it but, frankly, heās not been threatening and if that goal v Norwich means we get a decent fee Iām in!Ā Heās still our best finisher. Ā The others look like frightened rabbits in front of goal. 1
trousers Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Occams razor time @trousers Cameron is always Cameron. But the players who are meant to provide for him are many and changeable. What is more likely - that multiple professional standard footballers Ā ( Iām talking dozens of players from our defence and midfield through to fellow attackers) cannot find Cameron with a pass or that he is at fault?Ā The most likely explanation is the one you should make your favourite.Ā Ā Yeah, fair points. His goalscoring stats have been a tad patchy during his career thus far... one or two decent spells in there though.... Edited 20 hours ago by trousers
BarryVenisonsHair Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Winnersaint said: Wow Carsten Janker has finally signed, can play alongside Rudi Skacel. Bierhoff next! De Pedro on his way to Staplewood?Ā 1
gio1saints Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Heās still our best finisher. Ā The others look like frightened rabbits in front of goal. I disagree.Ā Adam looks like a hungry Squirrel. Damian looks like a cuddly Panda and Ross looks like a lost giraffe. Donāt know where you get your rabbits from. FWIW Cameron is more of a cheeky chipmunk in my eyes - oh- and BBD looks like a giant stuffed toy.Ā Edited 20 hours ago by gio1saints 3
Saint NL Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Occams razor time @trousers Cameron is always Cameron. But the players who are meant to provide for him are many and changeable. What is more likely - that multiple professional standard footballers Ā ( Iām talking dozens of players from our defence and midfield through to fellow attackers) cannot find Cameron with a pass or that he is at fault?Ā The most likely explanation is the one you should make your favourite.Ā Ā I posted this image in the Championship thread. From the first three league games, this suggests it's finishing that's the problem and not chance creation..... Ā 2
Harry_SFC Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Personally think Still would want an upgrade on Downes if he could get his way.Ā
Matthew Le God Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 22 minutes ago, gio1saints said: Ah ok. He has a 2028 ending contract and is on reputed Ā£40k per week. Does well there and we can still sell him good price in 2026 - or retain for the EPL. His wages pays for Azaz for a start! Iām still pro letting him ( and BBD) leave.Ā Not after a 40% relegation wage cut he won't!
gio1saints Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 10 minutes ago, trousers said: Yeah, fair points. His goalscoring stats have been a tad patchy during his career thus far... one or two decent spells in there though.... Yeah that two goals in 38 matches from our alleged best finisher does rather stand out a bit. Lovely man - perhaps too nice - but Iām sure we can do better.Ā 1
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