Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Chez]

21 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Didn't Suga say he wanted to stay and help us get promoted again?

Obviously no club chucked him a life ring then. 

Has he played in the friendlies? Did he look any good? I slated him last season, but am hoping for a second season bump (especially as he will have much more space in which to display his woeful first touch).

[macca155]

51 minutes ago, Chez said:

Is Dibling much different to Lavia?....n terms of age, ability and potential, they could be seen as similar.  I know its a starting bid, but I hope the £27m offer has been made merely to reset expectations and n

As you observed Lavia was a more complete player, less risk I guess. The important factor there was that Chelsea were in the market. They are good payers. None of the rich clubs seem interested in Tyler at present.

Agree £27 is a starting point, and other clubs will be watching very carefully. It will be more than that eventually.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Chez said:

Obviously no club chucked him a life ring then. 

Has he played in the friendlies? Did he look any good? I slated him last season, but am hoping for a second season bump (especially as he will have much more space in which to display his woeful first touch).

Yeah he's been present in the friendlies, present in the training. I do agree with your 'life ring' bit, if there was interest I'm sure he'd be sniffing. He just knows there isn't any interest, so has played the ''I want to stay' card.

He was utterly diabolical defensively last season, no other word for it. Worst RB we've ever had in the recent PL eras.

He does have technical ability though, he can cross a ball and he has some 'life' about him - I'm intrigued to see what he can do at a lower level. He came to us incredibly highly rated and with recent suitors such as Inter and co. But last season didn't leave much to be excited about, I'll be honest.

[Saint_lambden]

They’ve accepted internally that Fernandes is off but it’s just how much we can get for him. 
 

It’s the reality of relegation. The other two clubs have had or are going to go through the same. The only two Premier League quality players that Ipswich had last season were Delap and Cajuste and they’re both gone, with Leicester it is Hermansen and El Khannouss - neither of whom will be there in a few weeks. It will all come down to who can then recruit best with the funds available.

Ipswich didn’t need to add too much as their squad from promotion 2 years ago are basically all still there, but their signings have been impressive. Leicester are in a financial mess so haven’t signed anyone. 

Of course people are concerned about the outgoings but we will spend a portion of what we get in on replacements. 

[Chez]

20 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

It was always an incredible pipe dream to try and pitch Dibling as a £70-100m player

If, and that's a big if, he had continued to run teams ragged, like he did at Brighton, scored lets say four more goals in the run in, then maybe that massive price tag we put on him in January wouldn't look so out of place as it does at the moment. The club know what a talent he is, and they are no daft enough to ignore that, even if their hand is not as strong as they'd like.

[OldNick]

Just now, Saint_lambden said:

They’ve accepted internally that Fernandes is off but it’s just how much we can get for him. 
 

It’s the reality of relegation. The other two clubs have had or are going to go through the same. The only two Premier League quality players that Ipswich had last season were Delap and Cajuste and they’re both gone, with Leicester it is Hermansen and El Khannouss - neither of whom will be there in a few weeks. It will all come down to who can then recruit best with the funds available.

Ipswich didn’t need to add too much as their squad from promotion 2 years ago are basically all still there, but their signings have been impressive. Leicester are in a financial mess so haven’t signed anyone. 

Of course people are concerned about the outgoings but we will spend a portion of what we get in on replacements. 

Have Leicester still got that winger/forward who tore us a new one each time he played us

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Saint_lambden said:

They’ve accepted internally that Fernandes is off but it’s just how much we can get for him. 
 

It’s the reality of relegation. The other two clubs have had or are going to go through the same. The only two Premier League quality players that Ipswich had last season were Delap and Cajuste and they’re both gone, with Leicester it is Hermansen and El Khannouss - neither of whom will be there in a few weeks. It will all come down to who can then recruit best with the funds available.

Ipswich didn’t need to add too much as their squad from promotion 2 years ago are basically all still there, but their signings have been impressive. Leicester are in a financial mess so haven’t signed anyone. 

Of course people are concerned about the outgoings but we will spend a portion of what we get in on replacements. 

Do you have any idea of the sorts we are looking at to replace?

[trousers]

43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I will refer you to the below post - I would prefer to have this season's team to the team of 2023-2024:

 

It's looking likely that at least two of our best players listed in that table will be leaving this window (i.e. Fernandes & Dibling). Yes, of course, there's every chance we *could* replace them with players that are better than what Martin had, but that's supposition at the moment.

Grateful if you could answer my actual question: Which players do we have now that are "far better" than the equivalent players Martin had in the Championship? Just a simple list of players will suffice. Cheers 👍

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Chez said:

If, and that's a big if, he had continued to run teams ragged, like he did at Brighton, scored lets say four more goals in the run in, then maybe that massive price tag we put on him in January wouldn't look so out of place as it does at the moment. The club know what a talent he is, and they are no daft enough to ignore that, even if their hand is not as strong as they'd like.

Contract situation weakens us massively though. It's not like we haven't tried to tie him down, he's just not been interested up to now.

If he had 5 years then we hold all the cards, and we could demand top dollar. But in the current market, contract situation and his overall output last season, £35-40m is probably fair.

[beatlesaint]

50 minutes ago, saintant said:

Didn't affect Fernandes who knuckled down and gave his all every minute he played.

This might surprise you but no two people are the same !!! 

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

They’ve accepted internally that Fernandes is off but it’s just how much we can get for him. 
 

It’s the reality of relegation. The other two clubs have had or are going to go through the same. The only two Premier League quality players that Ipswich had last season were Delap and Cajuste and they’re both gone, with Leicester it is Hermansen and El Khannouss - neither of whom will be there in a few weeks. It will all come down to who can then recruit best with the funds available.

Ipswich didn’t need to add too much as their squad from promotion 2 years ago are basically all still there, but their signings have been impressive. Leicester are in a financial mess so haven’t signed anyone. 

Of course people are concerned about the outgoings but we will spend a portion of what we get in on replacements. 

What's do you reckon? 

THB 

Dibling 

Fernandes 

Ramsdale 

All gone? 

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, macca155 said:

As you observed Lavia was a more complete player, less risk I guess. The important factor there was that Chelsea were in the market. They are good payers. None of the rich clubs seem interested in Tyler at present.

Agree £27 is a starting point, and other clubs will be watching very carefully. It will be more than that eventually.

yeah more complete is a good term, but even Lavia had a few things to learn. He also didn't have to do the `second' hardest thing in football, dribble past players. Players that can do it against top opponents are rare.

When I see £27m, I just think of the amount we speculated on Sulemana, not far off that, who at the time was on the bench at Rennes. That was a 2.5 years ago too...and the prices keep rising. Dibling has actually done it in the PL, all be it for half a season. 

[ally_uk]

Yeah I'd say all Dibs, Fernandes, THB, Ramsdale will all go..... 

 

[beatlesaint]

Just now, ally_uk said:

Yeah I'd say all Dibs, Fernandes, THB, Ramsdale will all go..... 

 

The THB injury over the past 3  months and the fact he's not back playing yet might just mean he stays until January or next summer. 

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Have Leicester still got that winger/forward who tore us a new one each time he played us

Up front, Vardey gone, Daka still there.

Mavididi and Fatawu still there. No idea why both were not starters right from the off last year. I think Mavididi was injured for the first couple of games, but should have started, They were both very good in the championship.

 

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, ally_uk said:

Yeah I'd say all Dibs, Fernandes, THB, Ramsdale will all go..... 

 

Ramsdale has gone to Newcastle. I’d imagine THB will find it hard to move to a club better than Saints while he’s still on the recovery table, so that might keep him here until the Jan sales. Dibs and Fernandes will go for the right price undoubtedly.

What we’re left with is a losing machine.

[Saint_lambden]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

What's do you reckon? 

THB 

Dibling 

Fernandes 

Ramsdale 

All gone? 

All of those apart from Harwood-Bellis I reckon. He’s apparently happy to stay and he’s only just coming back from surgery but I guess hard to say who may come in for him later in the window. The Porto bid story wasn’t all it was made out to be, sounds like they enquired about him when discussing Bednarek but it wasn’t a formal bid. Porto are actually interested in Fernandes but I’m not sure (just a hunch rather than knowing) he would join one of Sporting’s rivals.

8 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Have Leicester still got that winger/forward who tore us a new one each time he played us

Fatawu is still there yes. Had a bad injury not long after the game at St Mary’s so only just back in training. Monga is the one to watch for them, only just turned 16 and been brilliant in pre-season. Their youngsters is probably what will get them through the other side of their financial situation. 

8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Do you have any idea of the sorts we are looking at to replace?

Foreign markets still. Sounds like they feel there is more value there than in England. We have done/are doing lots of scouting in Scandinavia but I guess that’s because their leagues have been playing through the summer compared to the rest of Europe. 

[Chez]

21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If true then 50 million is a possibility imo. 

is that realistic? The market is mad these days. I've no idea how half the clubs afford the fees they pay. 

[OldNick]

5 minutes ago, Chez said:

Up front, Vardey gone, Daka still there.

Mavididi and Fatawu still there. No idea why both were not starters right from the off last year. I think Mavididi was injured for the first couple of games, but should have started, They were both very good in the championship.

 

Fatuwa if he has recovered from his injury is just what we want

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Ramsdale has gone to Newcastle. I’d imagine THB will find it hard to move to a club better than Saints while he’s still on the recovery table, so that might keep him here until the Jan sales. Dibs and Fernandes will go for the right price undoubtedly.

What we’re left with is a "far better" squad than Russell Martin had in the Championship

There... fixed it for you...

[Willo of Whiteley]

1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

I don't know why so many people were saying we needed to get rid of 15+ players, it never happens when a team gets relegated.

We have a good Championship squad, but we need those sparks that can be the difference, at the moment we don’t have any real sparks

[Willo of Whiteley]

The Ward-Prowse “rumours” I find very bizarre. I don’t see that happening, unless how’s mate Danny Ings has left maybe he’s changed his mind 🤣

[MarkSFC]

I think THB stays. He is good but is he going to be good enough for a top half PL team, certainly not yet. But with us he may turn into one over the next season. 

His value right now is less than I think its probabaly worth selling for as doubt we'd get much more than 20-25m. Don't know how long he's got left on his contract though.

[hypochondriac]

Hell of a risk to sell virtually all our good players and replace them all with players from foreign markets. Let's hope it pays off. 

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, Chez said:

is that realistic? The market is mad these days. I've no idea how half the clubs afford the fees they pay. 

I know he had more of a track record but didn't we get that for Lavia? 

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, MarkSFC said:

I think THB stays. He is good but is he going to be good enough for a top half PL team, certainly not yet. But with us he may turn into one over the next season. 

His value right now is less than I think its probabaly worth selling for as doubt we'd get much more than 20-25m. Don't know how long he's got left on his contract though.

Does THB start for a single PL side? he wouldn't dislodge Burnley's pair, not sure Leeds or Sunderland would start him either, but maybe I'm mistaken.

[Chez]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I know he had more of a track record but didn't we get that for Lavia? 

Lavia seemed to fit the needs of both Liverpool and Chelsea. Do the big sides have a Fernandes shaped hole? Not so sure. And its those CL sides that have the big money available.

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, Chez said:

Lavia seemed to fit the needs of both Liverpool and Chelsea. Do the big sides have a Fernandes shaped hole? Not so sure. And its those CL sides that have the big money available.

I thought he was linked to athletic and juventus yesterday? 

[Saint Fan CaM]

3 minutes ago, Chez said:

Lavia seemed to fit the needs of both Liverpool and Chelsea. Do the big sides have a Fernandes shaped hole? Not so sure. And its those CL sides that have the big money available.

Hasn’t Fernandes expressed a preference to go abroad anyway? He’d flourish at a big Spanish club.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

What's do you reckon? 

THB 

Dibling 

Fernandes 

Ramsdale 

All gone? 

Starting with a realistic 11, if the sales go as expected -

Bazunu

Suguwara - Quarshie - Edwards - Wellington

           Downes - Charles

Armstrong        Smallbone                     Fraser

                        Archer

Leaves us with subs of Bree, McCarthy, Robinson, BBD, Downs, Stewart, Stephens, Manning

Unequivocally weaker than our first game against Sheffield Wednesday 2 years ago. Certainly in attack which is bilge.

Hell of a lot of work to do if it all plays out as we expect.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Starting with a realistic 11, if the sales go as expected -

Bazunu

Suguwara - Quarshie - Edwards - Wellington

           Downes - Charles

Armstrong        Smallbone                     Fraser

                        Archer

Leaves us with subs of Bree, McCarthy, Robinson, BBD, Downs, Stewart, Stephens, Manning

Unequivocally weaker than our first game against Sheffield Wednesday 2 years ago. Certainly in attack which is bilge.

Hell of a lot of work to do if it all plays out as we expect.

I'd probably play Aribo in place of Smallbone in that scenario but yes our attack is shit. 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Starting with a realistic 11, if the sales go as expected -

Bazunu

Suguwara - Quarshie - Edwards - Wellington

           Downes - Charles

Armstrong        Smallbone                     Fraser

                        Archer

Leaves us with subs of Bree, McCarthy, Robinson, BBD, Downs, Stewart, Stephens, Manning

Unequivocally weaker than our first game against Sheffield Wednesday 2 years ago. Certainly in attack which is bilge.

Hell of a lot of work to do if it all plays out as we expect.

 

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I'd probably play Aribo in place of Smallbone in that scenario but yes our attack is shit. 

Apart from having numerous players that have very good Championship goal scoring records.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Matthew Le God said:

 

Apart from having numerous players that have very good Championship goal scoring records.

That also equates to depth by the way, and not just strikers.

Wingers, 10's, wide forwards. Our options are currently pitiful and we'd do well to finish top 6.

[S-Clarke]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'd probably play Aribo in place of Smallbone in that scenario but yes our attack is shit. 

I omitted Aribo as the expectation is that he'll be offski too.

[trousers]

3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

we have a far better squad than under Martin

8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Unequivocally weaker than our first game against Sheffield Wednesday 2 years ago

Come on guys... sort this out between you... I'm very confused now... are we "far better" or "unequivocally weaker"...? 

Edited 15 hours ago by trousers

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

That also equates to depth by the way, and not just strikers.

Wingers, 10's, wide forwards. Our options are currently pitiful and we'd do well to finish top 6.

Indeed it does and it also includes how well players fit into a particular system. Recent history has the likes of BBD and Armstrong with underwhelming recent performances in the championship. 

[coalman]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Come on guys... sort this out between you... I'm very confused now... are we "far better" or "unequivocally weaker"...? 

It's obvious - our footballing quality exists in a quantum state that is impossible to know until we kick off against Wrexham.

[benjii]

9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Starting with a realistic 11, if the sales go as expected -

Bazunu

Suguwara - Quarshie - Edwards - Wellington

           Downes - Charles

Armstrong        Smallbone                     Fraser

                        Archer

Leaves us with subs of Bree, McCarthy, Robinson, BBD, Downs, Stewart, Stephens, Manning

Unequivocally weaker than our first game against Sheffield Wednesday 2 years ago. Certainly in attack which is bilge.

Hell of a lot of work to do if it all plays out as we expect.

It won't be anything like that. This is far more realistic:

----‐---------Bazunu------------

Stephens Stephens Stephens Stephens

-----Stephens Stephens Stephens----

Stephens-----Stephens-----Stephens

 

[S-Clarke]

4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Come on guys... sort this out between you... I'm very confused now... are we "far better" or "unequivocally weaker"...? 

To be fair, if we start with that 11 then I think there's only one winner  

We started against Sheff Wednesday with KWP, Bednarek, Tella, JWP, Arma, Charly and had Lavia Adams, and Stu Armstrong on the bench. I doubt we'll be able to put out anything near as good as that this time round.

Edited 15 hours ago by S-Clarke

[Colinjb]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

We started against Sheff Wednesday with KWP, Bednarek, Tella, JWP, Adams, Charly and had Lavia and Stu Armstrong on the bench. I doubt we'll be able to put out anything near as good as that this time round.

Christ. On that basis it's worrying.

[coalman]

8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Apart from having numerous players that have very good Championship goal scoring records.

And have terrible records in teams that don't create chances for them.

[hypochondriac]

I'm not concerned about selling all the players- that's not overly surprising. I am concerned at the possibility of doing this all before next week and how that's going to badly impact our start to the season. No doubt we will replace these players it's just how that's going to impact our start to the season and subsequently the rest of the year. 

[saintant]

55 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Is Tyler the right personality to have Moyes giving him the hair dryer treatment?

I agree. Dibling was very comfortable with Russell Martin as his boss. Moyes is an entirely different proposition and is a fiery Jock who wont hold back on any player not performing. Not sure Tyler is ready to play under that kind of manager.

[Matthew Le God]

17 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Wingers, 10's, wide forwards. Our options are currently pitiful and we'd do well to finish top 6.

Not remotely close to being 'pitiful' at Championship level.

Armstrong and Brereton Díaz are both best as wide forwards. Both prolific in the Championship.

Archer, prolific in the Championship 18 goals in 40 games.

Stewart prolific in a small sample of 13 games and 10 goals.

Downs top scorer for best team in 2.Bundesliga. 

Edozie and Fraser both effective in the Championship. Edozie had 6 goals from only 16 starts in the promotion season which is good end product. 

Robinson will be very effective this season. His age doesn't mean he can't be used.

One of the main current issues is the number 10 role if Fernandes and Dibling leave. I'd be surprised  if we didn't see a number 10 role player arrive. In the short term, Joe Aribo would be a decent option at Championship level until we sign one, but looks like Fraser might also be in Still'sthoughts for that based on pre season. Neither ideal as 1st choice for the rest of the season, but may be needed until new signing beds in.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[HarvSFC]

By this time two years ago our only two first team signings were Ryan Manning and Shea Charles. But, it would be nice if we were a bit more active earlier in the market for a change. Giving players a pre-season at the club. Then you have all the 2025 nonsense of a new player needing to learn the tactics before they can start matches, so a few more games wasted when we all saw Rickie Lambert sign and score the day after.

On the new transfer policy, I didn't dislike the policy of two years ago. We clearly identified Championship experience - Manning, Stewart, Downes, Fraser, THB and Brooks, alongside the squad signings of Lumley, Holgate (Shite) and Rothwell all had a wealth of experience of the league. The only first team signing with no experience of the league was Charles. And it worked to an extent, we got what we set out for and won promotion at the first time of asking. It would be good to get a mix of signings of some who have proven to be top level Championship players and some from the foreign market. That would be an exciting window, but SR's problem has always been going from one extreme to the other in the windows and their policy seems to change with each one.

[Saint Matty 76]

Didn't for one second think we'd keep any of Ramsdale, Fernandes or Dibling.

Also would've hope that the foresight of it obviously happening would've meant that a week out our replacements weren't Shit Existing GK, Nobody and Nobody.

It'll be Armstrong, Fraser, Brereton Diaz; Archer on the opening day as it has been in preseason. Absolutely dying for a #10 and a left-winger unless we're willing to put a load of trust in Robinson. 

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

To be fair, if we start with that 11 then I think there's only one winner  

We started against Sheff Wednesday with KWP, Bednarek, Tella, JWP, Arma, Charly and had Lavia Adams, and Stu Armstrong on the bench. I doubt we'll be able to put out anything near as good as that this time round.

A pointless point really as it was only because we sold the best players later in the window in that season. The line up suggested above for Wrexham will have a lot of players that will still be here after the window closes.

[lumuah]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Archer, prolific in the Championship 18 girls in 40 games.

 

 

Surprised he has the energy to play football...

[Verbal]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Archer, prolific in the Championship 18 girls in 40 games.

He really needs to sort out that addiction.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, lumuah said:

Surprised he has the energy to play football...

Certainly scoring plenty in one sense.,.