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6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You notice it's only the promoted teams interested. PL teams think he's too erratic to be a decent PL GK.

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

Not for me. He was decent and not at fault for our losses. In fact, his saves won us the Everton game. 

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8 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

He was the only thing between us and some more proper, humiliating 0-7 or more hidings on several occasions. Bearing in mind how many records that team still set for being shit, it’s mind-boggling to think how many more we would have conceded if we hadn’t had Ramsdale. 

Bearing in mind our other options can only dream of being competent shot stoppers, let alone excelling at any other part of their game, we were very, very lucky to have him. 

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43 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You notice it's only the promoted teams interested. PL teams think he's too erratic to be a decent PL GK.

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

I'm not sure, and I'm happy to be corrected, that I can think of a single goal against us last season that was as a result of a "lapse in concentration"

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47 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

You notice it's only the promoted teams interested. PL teams think he's too erratic to be a decent PL GK.

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

That's enough for me. 

Anything else over and above that is a bonus. 

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1 minute ago, Dman said:

I'm not sure, and I'm happy to be corrected, that I can think of a single goal against us last season that was as a result of a "lapse in concentration"

Against us, no. For us, yes. Arsenal fans are still volcanic about when he stopped to say hello to a pigeon and we rolled the ball into the net.

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5 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

Linked with some lad from Gremio, 19 years old and made one senior appearance, sounds about right.. Alysson Edward

 

 

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5 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

Linked with some lad from Gremio, 19 years old and made one senior appearance, sounds about right.. Alysson Edward

 

Hope this is bullshit. 

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9 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

Linked with some lad from Gremio, 19 years old and made one senior appearance, sounds about right.. Alysson Edward

 

I can smell a Gozteppe loan all over that one.

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Posted (edited)
57 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Not for me. He was decent and not at fault for our losses. In fact, his saves won us the Everton game. 

 

48 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

He was the only thing between us and some more proper, humiliating 0-7 or more hidings on several occasions. Bearing in mind how many records that team still set for being shit, it’s mind-boggling to think how many more we would have conceded if we hadn’t had Ramsdale. 

Bearing in mind our other options can only dream of being competent shot stoppers, let alone excelling at any other part of their game, we were very, very lucky to have him. 

 

19 minutes ago, Dman said:

I'm not sure, and I'm happy to be corrected, that I can think of a single goal against us last season that was as a result of a "lapse in concentration"

 

16 minutes ago, Badger said:

That's enough for me. 

Anything else over and above that is a bonus. 

That's fine, I get all of that, it's just what I've been told.

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1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

You notice it's only the promoted teams interested. PL teams think he's too erratic to be a decent PL GK.

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

Under Martin it was like shooting fish in a barrel for our opponents so Ramsdale faced a barrage of shots - by the law of averages, he was bound to make some mistakes. Imagine putting Bazunu in his position facing such an onslaught - it would have been utter carnage.

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I sometimes wonder if the later in the window we leave business is a good or bad thing. Does a modicum of desperation creep in, do we get left with the dregs who can't find clubs elsewhere?
 

I don't really know what the best strategy is for clubs, imo whatever ours is doesn't seem to have been particularly successful over the last few years (with perhaps one or two notable exceptions).

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Wouldn’t surprise me if the “creative midfielder” Solak / Alfie talked about was a loan player from a big club.

Like the Norwegian wonderkid City just signed. 

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7 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

I sometimes wonder if the later in the window we leave business is a good or bad thing. Does a modicum of desperation creep in, do we get left with the dregs who can't find clubs elsewhere?
 

I don't really know what the best strategy is for clubs, imo whatever ours is doesn't seem to have been particularly successful over the last few years (with perhaps one or two notable exceptions).

i dont think saints have much choice in this as players on the move use the whole window to see where the best offer pops up,its ludicrous that the seasons a month old and the window is still open,its just skys deadline day play thing.

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9 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

I sometimes wonder if the later in the window we leave business is a good or bad thing. Does a modicum of desperation creep in, do we get left with the dregs who can't find clubs elsewhere?
 

I don't really know what the best strategy is for clubs, imo whatever ours is doesn't seem to have been particularly successful over the last few years (with perhaps one or two notable exceptions).

I think in general there’s a trickle down effect in play, bigger transfers for the bigger clubs seem to always happen at the beginning of the window. 
 

That then gives the middle tier clubs who have sold players, money to spend, they buy off the lower middle tier, who in turn buy off the top of the lower tier etc etc.

there’s also allot of brinkmanship going on, players holding out for moves in the hope something else comes up later in the window which slows down the process.

Ramsdale is probably the perfect example, he probably has offers (like Sunderland) that are currently on ICE in the hope something better comes along. Maybe Man Utd offload their keeper later in the window and go for ramsdale, maybe Utd buy Martinez and Villa becomes and option for Ramsdale…. Maybe none of that happens and Sunderland is his best option but maybe they got feed up of waiting and have bought someone else.

 

i think it’s unavoidable that all business is done towards the end of the window, unless you’re one of the big clubs with the biggest draw and most money.

even Newcastle have come out this week and said how their window hasn’t gone to plan because the players they chase either move elsewhere or they’re priced out, they have way more money and draw than we do

 

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1 hour ago, SaintLondon said:

Linked with some lad from Gremio, 19 years old and made one senior appearance, sounds about right.. Alysson Edward

 

Dibling replacement being lined up?  Plays like him - lots tricks, fails to see an obvious pass, no end product. 😉

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Posted
2 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

You notice it's only the promoted teams interested. PL teams think he's too erratic to be a decent PL GK.

TBF, he wasn't great for us last season - too many lapses in concentration. Brilliant shot-stopper - one of the best, but the rest is lacking.

It's funny seeing people have a dig at this considering Ramsdale had a transfer last summer and ended up at a promoted team. Not sure why anyone suddenly thinks he's going to be anywhere near the top of any of the other exact same 17 teams shopping list when he wasn't a year ago. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

It's funny seeing people have a dig at this considering Ramsdale had a transfer last summer and ended up at a promoted team. Not sure why anyone suddenly thinks he's going to be anywhere near the top of any of the other exact same 17 teams shopping list when he wasn't a year ago. 

How do we know for certain that he didn't have other options? 

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20 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Dibling replacement being lined up?  Plays like him - lots tricks, fails to see an obvious pass, no end product. 😉

Yeah my immediate thought was Boufal 2.0 - a load of spins and tricks w/ very little to show for it.

I notice most of the clips show him beating his man (fair play, he looked pretty good at this) but the clips cut after that, so one can only assume he ended up passing it to nowhere.

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23 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Dibling replacement being lined up?  Plays like him - lots tricks, fails to see an obvious pass, no end product. 😉

By the same token - he did beat his man and move the ball forward instead of checking back to recycle the ball via his centre backs so 🤷‍♂️

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4 minutes ago, gecko said:

Yeah my immediate thought was Boufal 2.0 - a load of spins and tricks w/ very little to show for it.

I notice most of the clips show him beating his man (fair play, he looked pretty good at this) but the clips cut after that, so one can only assume he ended up passing it to nowhere.

Also sounds like a carbon copy of Sulemana too...

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1 hour ago, SuperSAINT said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if the “creative midfielder” Solak / Alfie talked about was a loan player from a big club.

Like the Norwegian wonderkid City just signed. 

That's Donley from Tottenham. We're waiting on them to commit to whether they want to send him out on loan or not. Although I wouldn't classify them as a big club....

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3 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

That's Donley from Tottenham. We're waiting on them to commit to whether they want to send him out on loan or not. Although I wouldn't classify them as a big club....

I mentioned a while back that Donley is exactly the sort of player we should be targetting. Do you know that we're definitely in for him or is it more a case of reading-between-the-lines? (cheers)

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"Four of Leeds' six signing are 6ft 1in or taller, with head coach Daniel Farke clearly keen to add height and physicality to the squad which won promotion from the Championship last season." 

 

It'll be interesting to see how they get on, given that this now seems to be our plan.

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16 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

That's Donley from Tottenham. We're waiting on them to commit to whether they want to send him out on loan or not. Although I wouldn't classify them as a big club....

Isn't Donley more of a striker?  I watched the YouTube stuff and wouldn't have classed him as a creative midfielder although looked like he could play a slightly more withdrawn striker role. 

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47 minutes ago, trousers said:

How do we know for certain that he didn't have other options? 

He did. Wolves very nearly signed him last summer.

Posted
2 hours ago, SaintLondon said:

Linked with some lad from Gremio, 19 years old and made one senior appearance, sounds about right.. Alysson Edward

 

According to transfermarkt he's played 19 times for Gremio's first team.

And according to transferroom.com's work permit calculator, he's played enough and at a high enough level to qualify for a work permit quite comfortably (no need to loan him out to Goztepe like Juan). 

No idea if there's any legs in this link, or if he's any good. But we do need some wide attackers.

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59 minutes ago, Danbert said:

Article says:

 

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In need of improving their defence, the report claims they are moving forward with their negotiations to try and sign other targets. Bella-Kotchap is the only other player named, and Hamburger Morgenpost believe it’s complicated to take him away from Southampton.

Shouldn't be as many on here will no doubt be prepared to offer to drive him there.

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8 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Isn't Donley more of a striker?  I watched the YouTube stuff and wouldn't have classed him as a creative midfielder although looked like he could play a slightly more withdrawn striker role. 

He played more as a second striker/number 10 for Orient last season. Even at times dropped deeper in to central midfielder as his off the ball work is brilliant.

49 minutes ago, trousers said:

I mentioned a while back that Donley is exactly the sort of player we should be targetting. Do you know that we're definitely in for him or is it more a case of reading-between-the-lines? (cheers)

I know we’ve enquired at least but nothing formal in terms of an offer on the table. Unsurprisingly we’re not the only Championship team interested. I’d be surprised if he gets many minutes at Spurs this season. Played 45 minutes off the bench v Reading the other day but will have plenty ahead of him in pecking order.

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2 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if the “creative midfielder” Solak / Alfie talked about was a loan player from a big club.

1 hour ago, Saint_lambden said:

That's Donley from Tottenham. We're waiting on them to commit to whether they want to send him out on loan or not. Although I wouldn't classify them as a big club....

1 hour ago, trousers said:

I mentioned a while back that Donley is exactly the sort of player we should be targetting. Do you know that we're definitely in for him or is it more a case of reading-between-the-lines? (cheers)

6 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

I know we’ve enquired at least but nothing formal in terms of an offer on the table. Unsurprisingly we’re not the only Championship team interested. 

Cheers SL. As mentioned further up the thread, if Spurs are interested in ABK, then perhaps that puts us in a good negotiating position for Donley, should Spurs decide to loan him out again. 

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6 minutes ago, trousers said:

Cheers SL. As mentioned further up the thread, if Spurs are interested in ABK, then perhaps that puts us in a good negotiating position for Donley, should Spurs decide to loan him out again. 

The article is about Hamburg being interested in Bella-Kotchap, not Tottenham.

Tottenham are mentioned in the article because it says Hamburg are also interested in Spurs' centre back Luka Vušković.

So it doesn't impact Donley.

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16 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

The article is about Hamburg being interested in Bella-Kotchap, not Tottenham.

Tottenham are mentioned in the article because it says Hamburg are also interested in Spurs' centre back Luka Vušković.

So it doesn't impact Donley.

Ah, oops... ok.... just went on the URL wording rather than clicking on it... ignore me in that case :)

p.s. maybe we could tempt Spurs with Bednarek instead.... ;)

#tongueincheek

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6 minutes ago, trousers said:

Ah, oops... ok.... just went on the URL wording rather than clicking on it... ignore me in that case :)

p.s. maybe we could tempt Spurs with Bednarek instead.... ;)

#tongueincheek

As in "give us Donley or we'll send you Bednarek"?

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

 

 

That's fine, I get all of that, it's just what I've been told.

However many times he saved our arses in a poor side last year though, I can see a PL move for next season being hard for him now. There just aren't many PL clubs who are in the market for a first team keeper, or would see him as enough of an upgrade on what they've got to make it worth the £25m or whatever we'd ask for him. 

He's not elite level, so the CL clubs won't want him. Go down a level to the clubs outside the top six and I'd say he's comparable to people like Sels at Forest, Leno at Fulham, Henderson at Palace, Vicario at Spurs, Sa at Wolves. They're all good quality Prem keepers and don't need replacing. 

Pickford's not going anywhere at Everton, Brentford have bought Kelleher, Bournemouth have just bought Petrovic and West Ham are going after Hermandsen. 

So what does that leave - Brighton maybe, as an upgrade on Verbruggen? And it would be interesting to see if Villa were interested if Martinez went. Other than that, it's only the promoted teams left which would more than likely mean a fourth relegation on his CV and another season of getting smashed every week which I very much doubt he wants, especially if as reported he's already got a £100k per week offer on the table so wouldn't really need to move for the money. 

The one I'm surprised hasn't shown any interest at all is Man Utd, because he is head and shoulders better than Onana, very affordable for them, and you could guarantee he'd go there if they wanted him. They should snap him up, but I hope they don't, and they won't because that would be way too obvious and sensible for that shitshow of a club. 

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2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Dibling replacement being lined up?  Plays like him - lots tricks, fails to see an obvious pass, no end product. 😉

Known locally as Jack Gremlish...

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13 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

Southampton have made an approach to sign FC Metz striker Idrissa Gueye with an £18m price tag set, as per Alan Nixon.

https://the72.co.uk/2025/07/22/southampton-approach-sign-fc-metz-idrissa-gueye/#google_vignette

Looks a lot of money for Championship Saints for an 18 year old from that league, but he's seen as a genuine hot prospect. Athletic 6ft 2ins target man striker, already capped by Senegal and originally from Mane's old side.

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

It's funny seeing people have a dig at this considering Ramsdale had a transfer last summer and ended up at a promoted team. Not sure why anyone suddenly thinks he's going to be anywhere near the top of any of the other exact same 17 teams shopping list when he wasn't a year ago. 

It's fine - it's come from someone that works with PL clubs day in, day out, but as is the arrogance of football fans (not just Saints), they know better than PL teams.

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3 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

I think in general there’s a trickle down effect in play, bigger transfers for the bigger clubs seem to always happen at the beginning of the window. 
 

That then gives the middle tier clubs who have sold players, money to spend, they buy off the lower middle tier, who in turn buy off the top of the lower tier etc etc.

there’s also allot of brinkmanship going on, players holding out for moves in the hope something else comes up later in the window which slows down the process.

Ramsdale is probably the perfect example, he probably has offers (like Sunderland) that are currently on ICE in the hope something better comes along. Maybe Man Utd offload their keeper later in the window and go for ramsdale, maybe Utd buy Martinez and Villa becomes and option for Ramsdale…. Maybe none of that happens and Sunderland is his best option but maybe they got feed up of waiting and have bought someone else.

 

i think it’s unavoidable that all business is done towards the end of the window, unless you’re one of the big clubs with the biggest draw and most money.

even Newcastle have come out this week and said how their window hasn’t gone to plan because the players they chase either move elsewhere or they’re priced out, they have way more money and draw than we do

 

This is precisely why transfer windows in the UEFA region need to close on 31 July every summer to help players, agents, clubs and others with their focus and basic organisation which none of the parties seem capable of. Having a 3 month window is too long and disruptive. Not as if players are required to give 3-6 months notice period as most employees are in the real world.

DoFs at the top two divisions level are more than capable of dealing with their managers’ wish lists in that timeframe. Poor organisation by the industry to be submitting deal sheets at 22.59 on 31 August or equivalent. Project and time management courses every spring would help as well. 

Two week extension if there’s a summer international tournament on (World Club Trophy doesn’t count).

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2 hours ago, trousers said:

How do we know for certain that he didn't have other options? 

No-one signs for Saints if they have other options.

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2 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

It's funny seeing people have a dig at this considering Ramsdale had a transfer last summer and ended up at a promoted team. Not sure why anyone suddenly thinks he's going to be anywhere near the top of any of the other exact same 17 teams shopping list when he wasn't a year ago. 

Just because 17 prem teams all have a decent keeper does not necessarily mean that Ramsdale isn't just as good as them. 

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I think Ramsdale is a good keeper, and were we to have stayed up, would be one of the first pieces of a genuine PL quality team. I would think a £25 million price tag puts nearly all the other PL clubs off though rather than them thinking he’s crap. (Also, probably not a massive upgrade on their current options.)

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56 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Looks a lot of money for Championship Saints for an 18 year old from that league, but he's seen as a genuine hot prospect. Athletic 6ft 2ins target man striker, already capped by Senegal and originally from Mane's old side.

Isn’t that the role Downs has signed for ? 
 

Can’t see us spending £18m on a younger player to send him to Goztepe 

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4 hours ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

 

 

That's fine, I get all of that, it's just what I've been told.

Perhap try watching the matches?

Just a thought

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