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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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23 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Yes, I had never heard of Maresca, Silva, Benitez, Bielsa or Kompany.

Oooh you either didn't read, understand or deliberately pretended I wrote something I didn't. Well done.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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30 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

More on Palace interest in Rohl here, Fulham also get a mention.

Maybe we should have just paid the release clause in December!

Then we’d need a new manager for next season anyway, as most people would have wanted him sacked in March.

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Dusic

Dusic

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21 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I would be amazed that either Fulham or Palace recruit Rohl.  Their bar will be set a lot higher.

What does "higher" mean? They will just want to get the best person for the job and will have own criteria as to what that is.

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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14 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

For everyone jizzing their pants at the prospect of Danny Rohl, he finished the season with 1 more point than 35 year old Tom Cleverly at fucking Watford in his first ever management job.

Sheffield Wednesday 58, Watford 57.

 

Intrigued to know how many management jobs you think Danny Rohl has had…or is that another thing you ‘don’t know dickhead?’ 🤣

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Dusic

Dusic

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19 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

For everyone jizzing their pants at the prospect of Danny Rohl, he finished the season with 1 more point than 35 year old Tom Cleverly at fucking Watford in his first ever management job.

Sheffield Wednesday 58, Watford 57.

 

By that logic Russell Martin got 87pts so just get him back?

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ApprenticeBillionaire

ApprenticeBillionaire

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7 minutes ago, Dusic said:

By that logic Russell Martin got 87pts so just get him back?

Well durrrr that is probably correct.

Martin would have more of a chance of getting us out of that league than Rohl does.

As much as I detest the twat.

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ApprenticeBillionaire

ApprenticeBillionaire

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10 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Intrigued to know how many management jobs you think Danny Rohl has had…or is that another thing you ‘don’t know dickhead?’ 🤣

Hold on...

How does that change Rohl getting 1 more point? 

I like the romance and the infatuation of a prodigal fucking son but he ain't what we need.

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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On 06/05/2025 at 12:11, CB Fry said:

We approached Russell Martin and had him in the bag in the May and you're calling that "dithering"? Jesus wept.

 

By all means be direct and graphic, but that's a very ungentlemanly way to talk about Lucy!

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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18 minutes ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

Hold on...

How does that change Rohl getting 1 more point? 

I like the romance and the infatuation of a prodigal fucking son but he ain't what we need.

You picked Cleverely because he’s in first managerial job and clearly did so to belittle Rohl without realising he’s also in his first managerial job 🤣

You also seem very confused as yesterday you said it would be sensible of SR to have agreed a deal with Rohl and now you’re angry he’s not what we need. 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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1 hour ago, Dusic said:

What does "higher" mean? They will just want to get the best person for the job and will have own criteria as to what that is.

It means they will be looking for someone proven at a higher level than safety in the Championship.  Unlike us, they’re both established premier league teams that recruit good players.

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Chez

Chez

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1 hour ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

For everyone jizzing their pants at the prospect of Danny Rohl, he finished the season with 1 more point than 35 year old Tom Cleverly at fucking Watford in his first ever management job.

Sheffield Wednesday 58, Watford 57.

 

Not saying you are wrong, but you do need to consider the strength of hand they have had to work with. How good are the senior players, is their any flair in the squad, youth coming through, opportunities and money to address issues, injury problems. I am mindful of Poch's record being at Espanyol, finishing 11th, 8th and 14th. I seem to recall he he lost quite a few players prior to his last season and was sacked after a bad start. League position isn't everything. I realise some teams do punch well above their weight, and managers at those clubs should be looked at closely, but there a lot of factors. Working wonders on a shoestring budget is to be applauded, but doesn't mean you can handle a bigger club with different challenges.

While we are at it. What was Cleverly's hand like? They sold their best player in Asprilla last summer and Kone was decent too. He got buttons to spend to replace them.  Would he be an option for us perhaps?

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Kermitzasaint

Kermitzasaint

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1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

You picked Cleverely because he’s in first managerial job and clearly did so to belittle Rohl without realising he’s also in his first managerial job 🤣

You also seem very confused as yesterday you said it would be sensible of SR to have agreed a deal with Rohl and now you’re angry he’s not what we need. 

Your point is that both managers are in their first job and both have achieved nothing. Finally I agree with you on something. Rohl is not what we need

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Unless Saints are gazumped by a Prem team with a lot of money to tempt him, I reckon Rohl is a dead cert appointment as soon as Wednesday get their replacement. There too many synergies in place in my mind.

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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32 minutes ago, Kermitzasaint said:

Your point is that both managers are in their first job and both have achieved nothing. Finally I agree with you on something. Rohl is not what we need

I think both have done quite well actually. 

Convict Colony

Convict Colony

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4 hours ago, Dusic said:

What does "higher" mean? They will just want to get the best person for the job and will have own criteria as to what that is.

Tell me your a saints fan without telling me your a saints fan 😄

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Maggie May

Maggie May

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5 hours ago, goodymatt said:

Some random twitter speculation on Rohl to Saints.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

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gurru991

gurru991

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6 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

For everyone jizzing their pants at the prospect of Danny Rohl, he finished the season with 1 more point than 35 year old Tom Cleverly at fucking Watford in his first ever management job.

Sheffield Wednesday 58, Watford 57.

 

Yeah but Danny Rohl is young, good looking & has a foreign accent. Also he has an Umlaut in his name !!  

Tom Cleverly is from fucking Basingstoke 

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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3 hours ago, gurru991 said:

Yeah but Danny Rohl is young, good looking & has a foreign accent. Also he has an Umlaut in his name !!  

Tom Cleverly is from fucking Basingstoke 

That’s Amazingstoke to you, northerner.

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Dark Munster

Dark Munster

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12 hours ago, Chez said:

Working wonders on a shoestring budget is to be applauded, but doesn't mean you can handle a bigger club with different challenges.

While we are at it. What was Cleverly's hand like? They sold their best player in Asprilla last summer and Kone was decent too. He got buttons to spend to replace them.  Would he be an option for us perhaps?

Too much of a gamble, I'd say. Working wonders on a shoestring budget is to be applauded, but doesn't mean you can handle a bigger club with different challenges.

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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I didn’t think he’d come here, his stock has risen too high for us. It seems we are widely perceived within  the game as a shambles of a club best avoided. 

Wade Garrett

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What has Rohl done to deserve a Premier League job?  Certainly not as much as Mark Robins, and about on par with Darren Moore or Chris Wilder. 
There are plenty in front of him in the queue for a job in the Premier League.

We should look elsewhere.  If he hadn’t been Ralph’s assistant for 5 minutes nobody would have really considered him.  He doesn’t want to come here, so good luck to him and we’ll go for someone else.

 

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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30 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I didn’t think he’d come here, his stock has risen too high for us. It seems we are widely perceived within  the game as a shambles of a club best avoided. 

Stock has risen by achieving mid-table in the Championship.  I don’t get it.

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

What has Rohl done to deserve a Premier League job?  Certainly not as much as Mark Robins, and about on par with Darren Moore or Chris Wilder. 
There are plenty in front of him in the queue for a job in the Premier League.

We should look elsewhere.  If he hadn’t been Ralph’s assistant for 5 minutes nobody would have really considered him.  He doesn’t want to come here, so good luck to him and we’ll go for someone else.

 

Not necessarily premier league 

 

echo

 

Rohl has now spoken openly to RB Live in his native country about his next steps, and admitted he targets a job in one of Europe's top divisions.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Stock has risen by achieving mid-table in the Championship.  I don’t get it.

With an absolute basket case of a club who he saved from relegation last season when it looked hopeless, finishing mid table this season without,  as far as I know, any investment in the playing side. 

Also, and this does play into it, the amount of media attention he is getting. 

Charlie Wayman

Charlie Wayman

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What he wants and what he can get are two very different things.He should remember the old adage - the higher you fly, the further you fall.

It could be we just dodged a bullet.

I'm with Wade!

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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43 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Stock has risen by achieving mid-table in the Championship.  I don’t get it.

It's the hipster ceiling. The financial outlay to get higher up is often much more beyond this point. So, you can be feted by media, and have wins under your belt, and have a well earned philosophy that produces results. 

After this, it gets harder. And the media shift attention to the next manager further down who is getting wins under their belt.

We're just really thick, falling for it time after time.

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Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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51 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Stock has risen by achieving mid-table in the Championship.  I don’t get it.

Stop looking at league tables as the only barometer of whether someone is capable working in a different environment. That might help you get it.

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gio1saints

gio1saints

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I still think it will be Rohl because of the synergies noted by @Saint Fan CaM. 

The reason thats important is because it shortens the acclimatisation process you always get with a new Manager. 

 My point is I think we were lucky that it worked with, relatively speaking, non synergetic RM.
 

New Manager - and Saints - start with advantages if there are synergies, no doubt. 
 

FWIW - I don’t see Saints giving ANY New manager more than a dozen or so matches next season before they decide to sack him ~ if we are not on over 20 points. Which, with my pessimist saints hat on means that whoever we recruit now will most likely not be Manager in January anyway! And that the January choice, in all likelihood, should be the one we pick now! 

That suggests to me NOT to pick Danny Rohl ( despite the synergies and their advantages, because he would still need great luck, imo, to get the team on 2pts/match after a dozen games ) - but rather get someone with more experience..

Still think it will be him but suggest it probably wont be him in Jan. So the other guy- THATS the guy we should pick now. 

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Nolan

Nolan

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Such bad translating.

 

Rohl said the Bundesliga is A top choice. 

"I always want to work with the best players and compete with the best coaches. The Bundesliga is, of course, a top choice. After all, I grew up with the Bundesliga. But the Premier League is also a dream. I'm currently very excited to see what happens this summer."

he actually says zero about his destination just that as a manager he would one day like to work in those leagues.

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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40 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Stop looking at league tables as the only barometer of whether someone is capable working in a different environment. That might help you get it.

Thanks for the advice, means a lot.

Fabrice29

Fabrice29

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Just now, Wade Garrett said:

Thanks for the advice, means a lot.

No worries mate. I know nuance and context are difficult for you Mike Basset wannabes but always happy to help you along the way.

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

No worries mate. I know nuance and context are difficult for you Mike Basset wannabes but always happy to help you along the way.

I know, I would take 4-4-fucking-2 over false 9s and inside full-backs any day of the week.

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