25/26 - Non Saints Games

[whelk]

Multiview is ok if you can put up with Lee Hendrie

[Lighthouse]

Two years ago people were saying that Luton gave the PL a right good go and they’d be one of the favourites to go straight back up. This year a lot of people said Wrexham and Birmingham were well set to ‘do an Ipswich’ and make the playoffs at the very least.

It’s absolute folly to be making such definitive long term statements as, ‘Saints won’t be in the promotion hunt for years to come’, just because we’re currently mid-table. We’re not on the edge of financial solvency and we’ve got a lot of decent players on long contracts.

Wolves, West Ham… I don’t fear them more than any other three clubs which might be relegated.

[Willo of Whiteley]

The time-wasting, diving and feigning of injuries on both sides in this Arsenal v Villa game is shambolic.

How refreshing would it be to see fines given for this shit.
Commentators never call out this.

[Maggie May]

I’m so done with possession-based, passing football.  Watching United against a team as poor as Wolves tonight is as frustrating as watching us.  They never look like scoring despite all the possession and are open to conceding. It’s so pointless.  Just get it forward and direct.  The players can’t enjoy this. It’s devoid of any passion.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

The time-wasting, diving and feigning of injuries on both sides in this Arsenal v Villa game is shambolic.

How refreshing would it be to see fines given for this shit.
Commentators never call out this.

A number of Man It's players falling over with a touch. Ref just lets the game flow. Had Fernandes been playing he would have exploded with rage at his cheating not being rewarded.

[austsaint]

Danny Rohl doing well at Rangers with Rusty’s squad.    The one that got away?

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

9 hours ago, austsaint said:

Danny Rohl doing well at Rangers with Rusty’s squad.    The one that got away?

Was it not a case of bad timing and Rohl messing Saints about?

Wednesday were a mess and the then chairman put a ridiculous release fee on Rohl? 

Who knows. 

[Saint NL]

Wrexham are quietly racking up some wins, just outside the playoff places now after a 2-0 win away at Blackburn.

 

[AlexLaw76]

Watching Sunderland v City.

Sunderland are proper gong for it, have real pace and power, and a cool head in the middle of the park in Xhaka (we would never ever have signed him).

Interesting, Sunderland don't have 3 CBs in the middle of Defence... 🤣

[Maggie May]

Sheffield United will go up along with Ipswich.

[S-Clarke]

For people who think 'the club dictating the style of play' is a conspiracy theory, then Chelsea's approach confirms the modern world of football, and it's almost certainly how we also operate across the SR group of clubs.

'The process to replace the Italian is under way, and it is understood Englishman Rosenior is the frontrunner, though sources have stressed other candidates are also under consideration.

Rosenior's current employers are owned by investment vehicle BlueCo - the consortium set up to purchase Chelsea in 2022.

'The club will not change their style of play, so it is highly unlikely they would move for Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner.'

Am I old school, or should it be about finding the best manager and letting them build their style and image on the club - they should always be the head of the operation. This modern 'approach' is destroying football in front of our eyes.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

For people who think 'the club dictating the style of play' is a conspiracy theory, then Chelsea's approach confirms the modern world of football, and it's almost certainly how we also operate across the SR group of clubs.

'The process to replace the Italian is under way, and it is understood Englishman Rosenior is the frontrunner, though sources have stressed other candidates are also under consideration.

Rosenior's current employers are owned by investment vehicle BlueCo - the consortium set up to purchase Chelsea in 2022.

'The club will not change their style of play, so it is highly unlikely they would move for Crystal Palace manager Oliver Glasner.'

Am I old school, or should it be about finding the best manager and letting them build their style and image on the club - they should always be the head of the operation. This modern 'approach' is destroying football in front of our eyes.

I get that, but there has to be an element of finding a manager that best suits the players you currently have as a starting point?

 

[S-Clarke]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

I get that, but there has to be an element of finding a manager that best suits the players you currently have as a starting point?

 

But if you pick a good enough manager they should be good enough to figure out a formula, which includes addressing any missing pieces in the transfer window. 

I think their recruitment is scattergun at best anyway, so they'll probably change the club style of play in a few months and sign a whole load of new types in the summer. The way they run their club is very similar to us actually, another multi-club 'everyone's hands in the pie' approach, not actually giving any manager true authority over the calls.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

But if you pick a good enough manager they should be good enough to figure out a formula, which includes addressing any missing pieces in the transfer window. 

I think their recruitment is scattergun at best anyway, so they'll probably change the club style of play in a few months and sign a whole load of new types in the summer. The way they run their club is very similar to us actually, another multi-club 'everyone's hands in the pie' approach, not actually giving any manager true authority over the calls.

I agree, but the top teams kind of want the man now, not someone who needs to rebuild to suit their style, when they can just get another elite manager who is more suited to their squad.

I can see why Chelsea will not go for Glasner, more so when they have the pick of much of world football.....whether they choose wisely is another matter.

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I agree, but the top teams kind of want the man now, not someone who needs to rebuild to suit their style, when they can just get another elite manager who is more suited to their squad.

I can see why Chelsea will not go for Glasner, more so when they have the pick of much of world football.....whether they choose wisely is another matter.

I wouldn't call Rosenior elite though, that's what makes it all a bit bonkers from the crazies at Chelsea and BlueCo.

[Football Special]

31 minutes ago, Maggie May said:

Sheffield United will go up along with Ipswich.

Certainly looking like they’ll rise up the table, what on earth was Selles doing there to lose all his games 

[HarvSFC]

27 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

But if you pick a good enough manager they should be good enough to figure out a formula, which includes addressing any missing pieces in the transfer window. 

I think their recruitment is scattergun at best anyway, so they'll probably change the club style of play in a few months and sign a whole load of new types in the summer. The way they run their club is very similar to us actually, another multi-club 'everyone's hands in the pie' approach, not actually giving any manager true authority over the calls.

How Joe Shields got picked up by Chelsea after a scattergun summer here and remains in position always astounds me. 

[Badger]

33 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

For people who think 'the club dictating the style of play'…

Am I old school, or should it be about finding the best manager and letting them build their style and image on the club - they should always be the head of the operation. This modern 'approach' is destroying football in front of our eyes.

This is it for me as well. Appoint a manager to build the club, although the flaw in that in the modern world is that he won’t want to stay around longer than two seasons (three at the outside) to see it through. Would such a job appeal to a manager ? 
 

Nowadays the strategy seems to be a Director of Sport signs the players, and a coach is appointed to oversee it, not necessarily deciding on tactics and team selection. 
 

Was it Lowe who commented that the manager was just another employee ? If so he was perhaps ahead of the game in publicly stating it. 

[Rut]

Why do Saints fans call the Manchester teams 'city' & 'united'?

Does my fucking head in.

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Rut said:

Why do Saints fans call the Manchester teams 'city' & 'united'?

Does my fucking head in.

I am not sure this is just saints fans

[Rut]

1 hour ago, Maggie May said:

Sheffield United will go up along with Ipswich.

Sheff Utd currently 7/1. Ipswich 1/3.

Pays around 10/1 for them both to go up. I think that's a risky bet but fair play if you know something that the bookies don't.

How much have you put on? 

Current best odds link:

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/promotion

[Rut]

Talking of teams called 'something' United.

Good point for Leeds United today. West Ham United starting to get proper worried. What 3 teams go down - if it doesn't include them?

[AlexLaw76]

13 minutes ago, Rut said:

Talking of teams called 'something' United.

Good point for Leeds United today. West Ham United starting to get proper worried. What 3 teams go down - if it doesn't include them?

yeah, if you are talking about the match they are in and not playing another 'United' or 'City'

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Certainly looking like they’ll rise up the table, what on earth was Selles doing there to lose all his games 

It's like a pullover, facial hair, repetitive press conferences and one trick tactics went wrong. Of course that can't be the case as it would undermine everything SR value too, and that's worked out fi...oh...