Pompey vs Saints - Sunday 1200

[you muppets]

one job...just beat those back to fronts

[Thripp87]

Like him or not, Stephens needs to be the first name on the team sheet for this. About the only one I would trust to get his head in where it hurts.

Obviously needs 4 at the back.

Thank God no Bazunu going to Fratton Park.

People clambering for Romeu must be mad. 

Would happily take a draw.

Edited 4 hours ago by Thripp87

[Turkish]

8 hours ago, suewhistle said:

Last time I went there, for a testimonial, they kept us in for an hour whilst the bad boys threw lumps of concrete over the wall at us until cleared off by the police. Are you sure you want to stay longer in that dump than necessary?

Not so much cleared off by the police, more heard they were letting the DEF out and ran and hid, in their desperation to get away and hide they ended up smashing windows and doors as they tried to break into nearby houses and shops such was their fear. Typical Pompey, hardest firm in the world when the OB are there, set new 100m records when they’re not. 

[WALK DMC]

Shame that this game isn't an evening kick off. This season, Saints have a points per game (PPG) of 2.3 for games played in the evening (w5, d1, l1), but have less than 1 PPG for those games played in the day (w4, d8, l9). 

If our evening matches form was across the season, we'd be 7 points clear at the top of the Championship ! Alternatively, we'd be in the bottom 3, if our day form was across the season.

I think that this anomaly, is because we had quite a few evening games during Tonda's hot period when he first took over. 

Not sure that it means much, but I thought that it made a nice change to discussing XG. 

[LGTL]

17 minutes ago, WALK DMC said:

Shame that this game isn't an evening kick off. This season, Saints have a points per game (PPG) of 2.3 for games played in the evening (w5, d1, l1), but have less than 1 PPG for those games played in the day (w4, d8, l9). 

If our evening matches form was across the season, we'd be 7 points clear at the top of the Championship ! Alternatively, we'd be in the bottom 3, if our day form was across the season.

I think that this anomaly, is because we had quite a few evening games during Tonda's hot period when he first took over. 

Not sure that it means much, but I thought that it made a nice change to discussing XG. 

The sun never shines in that shithole so hopefully we’ll be alright!

[Zorba]

44 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Would happily take a draw.

Shit or bust for me. A draw is not acceptable. We’ve already dropped two points against these shithouses with that pathetic display at home.

[Rebel]

14 hours ago, Football Special said:

Remember everyone, they take football much more seriously than we do 

So just like every other city and town with a football league club they talk about football in the pubs and clubs and at work.  

Is the reason they think they are so special because not many of them have ever been anywhere else? 

I don't know where they get these myths from - that they are a special club with special support. They are no different to anyone else or any other place.  The reality is they are probably closer to being one of the smaller clubs in the football league by support than one of the bigger clubs.

And just like any stadium or ground the support can be great or terrible depending on who you are playing, how you are playing and everything else going on around the club.

At least we don't seem to have these delusions about who or what we are.

 

[Ted Bates Statue]

14 hours ago, Football Special said:

Remember everyone, they take football much more seriously than we do 

This chap has witnessed the derby 29 times, going back to August 1960 when Saints won 5-1 in a sign of things to come. I imagine there may be a handful of us on here who have similarly extensive derby experience, although might be tricky finding anyone with 30 derbies just yet - that next previous one was held in 1927.

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, Thripp87 said:

Like him or not, Stephens needs to be the first name on the team sheet for this. About the only one I would trust to get his head in where it hurts.

Obviously needs 4 at the back.

Thank God no Bazunu going to Fratton Park.

People clambering for Romeu must be mad. 

Would happily take a draw.

Stephens wins few headers for a centre-back and often loses his man in the box.

 

[NewYorkSaint]

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

[tdmickey3]

6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Stephens wins few headers for a centre-back and often loses his man in the box.

 

He will likely over do his "passion" 🙄 and get sent off 

[OldNick]

21 hours ago, franniesTache said:

 

But then we somehow find a way to win last night and now i have a glimmer of hope, and that's going to make it so much worse when we lose to these mouth breathing, sister fucking, scabbing, lying, six fingered cunts

Im disappointed in you as you were pretty weak on hiw scathing you were on them 😀

[Wade Garrett]

4 at the back and no clever-bollockery and we should turn over the fish-fucking inbred illiterate delusional cunts.

[Turkish]

37 minutes ago, Rebel said:

So just like every other city and town with a football league club they talk about football in the pubs and clubs and at work.  

Is the reason they think they are so special because not many of them have ever been anywhere else? 

I don't know where they get these myths from - that they are a special club with special support. They are no different to anyone else or any other place.  The reality is they are probably closer to being one of the smaller clubs in the football league by support than one of the bigger clubs.

And just like any stadium or ground the support can be great or terrible depending on who you are playing, how you are playing and everything else going on around the club.

At least we don't seem to have these delusions about who or what we are.

 

Other stuff they will say pre or post game 

scummers firm never come to Pompey

Fratton Park and it’s special fans will create an amazing atmosphere 

Scum will make no noise standing there like church mice 

Pompey are proper fans and proper club 

Pompey are the biggest club in the south with amazing history and tradition 

[tdmickey3]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

4 at the back and no clever-bollockery and we should turn over the fish-fucking inbred illiterate delusional cunts.

It will be 3 CB mate because his weak and under instruction from above

 

[tdmickey3]

Just now, Turkish said:

Other stuff they will say pre or post game 

scummers firm never come to Pompey

Fratton Park and it’s special fans will create an amazing atmosphere 

Scum will make no noise standing there like church mice 

Pompey are proper fans and proper club 

Pompey are the biggest club in the south with amazing history and tradition 

Its all verbal 🤮

[OldNick]

15 hours ago, Football Special said:

Remember everyone, they take football much more seriously than we do 

They talk football all night as they have trouble putting a sentence together, by the time theyve joined one together the bell rings for last orders

[OldNick]

15 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

Very sensible, but may I ask were you born in Southampton, is it a passion for you? Do you ever toss and turn at night reliving  the game and how things went wront and why or fret/worry about the next game. Sadly, im 66 and Saints burn into me so deeply. Im not rabid anti Pompey as in a way i respect them as it is a tough city and they like us support the team, but what rankles me most, is their belief that they are some sort of super fan base

[coalman]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Other stuff they will say pre or post game 

scummers firm never come to Pompey

Fratton Park and it’s special fans will create an amazing atmosphere 

Scum will make no noise standing there like church mice 

Pompey are proper fans and proper club 

Pompey are the biggest club in the south with amazing history and tradition 

All well and good but have they solved their rat infestation problem yet?

[Pamplemousse]

Comedy gold stuff

[coalman]

1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said:

Comedy gold stuff

There's a lot of words there that all appear to be "blah". Obviously, I didn't bother to read it.

[Osvaldorama]

34 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

Fuck off

[WALK DMC]

26 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Stephens wins few headers for a centre-back and often loses his man in the box.

 

My favourite is when Stephens wins a header,  but it goes straight into the air rather than away from goal. 

According to Opta, the percentage of ariel duels that our centre halves win are:

Quarshie - 59%

THB - 56%

Wood - 46%

Stephens - 43% 

A "very good " percentage in the Championship is around 70%+ won, good is around 60%+ won.  As always, stats need to be used carefully, but these do seem to back up my own impression of our defence's ability to defend crosses. 

Strangely though, I'd probably prefer Jack to Quarshie for Sunday's game. I think even with his obvious limitations, some games call for experience and this is probably one of those matches.

[Turkish]

44 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

hope football is the winner, yes?

[AlexLaw76]

Tonda. Presser

• Expecting a great away support in a tight stadium
• The rest of the atmosphere will depend on the game
• It is an important game for both
• This is the most beautiful fixture of the year
• We will need to dig deep at times, and hopefully we will make them do more
• It means everything to win there. I have been here for 6 months, I know it means everything
• I feel it. The boys need to recover but we feel the energy of this game
• I watched the last time played them. We went very direct very early
• That is a way to start, but in terms of quality we need to find moments to bring quality on the ground also
• We never did that much in the last game
• We are progressing as a group. We had too many transfers in the summer and it takes time
• Reality is that it does not just click immediately. 
• The players are living and breathing the game, it needs to be a habit to win
• We do everything to win, we need to leave it on the pitch
• I am confident and positive that we have a group of players in the middle of a process
• What I say now does not matter, we have to do it on the pitch on Sun
• We need to see how Ross recovers, we do have an extra day so we will see
• We knew 60 mins in the week was his maximum
• Bragg is a consideration and we have Charles coming back. We will look at all opportunities
• Charles played slightly more advanced, this is not the idea going forward, but we needed to do that against Sheffield
• I want cool heads from my players on Sun, we need to take the emotion from the game
• There needs to be clarity with the players
• Of course I know the history of this fixture. Coming to a club you must understand the culture of that club
• We need to work on Leo’d heading, he should have scored a couple this season. 
• He is the type of player he needs the ball at his feet, but we must recognise the threat of the balls into the box from the other side
• He is a winner, he wants more goals, he will be important on Sun

[Mixedkebab]

1 minute ago, WALK DMC said:

My favourite is when Stephens wins a header,  but it goes straight into the air rather than away from goal. 

According to Opta, the percentage of ariel duels that our centre halves win are:

Quarshie - 59%

THB - 56%

Wood - 46%

Stephens - 43% 

A "very good " percentage in the Championship is around 70%+ won, good is around 60%+ won.  As always, stats need to be used carefully, but these do seem to back up my own impression of our defence's ability to defend crosses. 

Strangely though, I'd probably prefer Jack to Quarshie for Sunday's game. I think even with his obvious limitations, some games call for experience and this is probably one of those matches.

One thing is certain- Wood & Manning must not start. Or is that 2 things

Edited 2 hours ago by Mixedkebab

[coalman]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda. Presser

 

• Expecting a great away support in a tight stadium
• The rest of the atmosphere will depend on the game
• It is an important game for both
• This is the most beautiful fixture of the year
• We will need to dig deep at times, and hopefully we will make them do more
• It means everything to win there. I have been here for 6 months, I know it means everything
• I feel it. The boys need to recover but we feel the energy of this game
• I watched the last time played them. We went very direct very early
• That is a way to start, but in terms of quality we need to find moments to bring quality on the ground also
• We never did that much in the last game
• We are progressing as a group. We had too many transfers in the summer and it takes time
• Reality is that it does not just click immediately. 
• The players are living and breathing the game, it needs to be a habit to win
• We do everything to win, we need to leave it on the pitch
• I am confident and positive that we have a group of players in the middle of a process
• What I say now does not matter, we have to do it on the pitch on Sun
• We need to see how Ross recovers, we do have an extra day so we will see
• We knew 60 mins in the week was his maximum
• Bragg is a consideration and we have Charles coming back. We will look at all opportunities
• Charles played slightly more advanced, this is not the idea going forward, but we needed to do that against Sheffield
• I want cool heads from my players on Sun, we need to take the emotion from the game
• There needs to be clarity with the players
• Of course I know the history of this fixture. Coming to a club you must understand the culture of that club
• We need to work on Leo’d heading, he should have scored a couple this season. 
• He is the type of player he needs the ball at his feet, but we must recognise the threat of the balls into the box from the other side
• He is a winner, he wants more goals, he will be important on Sun

Oh good - we're in the middle of another process and we still haven't gelled as a team after the summer transfer activity. Looks like Martin left a copy of his big book of excuses behind when he left. Living and breathing the game sounds like the new version of "the players trained really well this week".

[franniesTache]

19 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Comedy gold stuff

It's a fucking cult isn't it? Reminds me of the bollocks Liverpool fans do. None of it is based in any sort of fact and it's like watching swivel headed loons patting each on other on the back for how special they are when they outside world can see all they've done is eaten an entire box of crayons and shat themselves.

46 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

Nah fuck the cunts, hope someone builds a wall around hayling island and they flood it with the residents in it.

[Dman]

53 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

You wouldn't because you're not one of us.

Stick to baseball, basketball or whatever noddy sports you yanks enjoy. 

[Toadhall Saint]

33 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Comedy gold stuff

……. We’ve ripped off charities….

[Mixedkebab]

I thought their real rivals are their heroes Millwall anyway because we are nothing?

Thats what the 657 grandads say? You know, the ones that walk round with McIntyre and a camera crew saying weve got no boys. 
 

Considering we mean nothing compared to Millwall they do seem ti talk about us a lot.

[skintsaint]

57 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Other stuff they will say pre or post game 

scummers firm never come to Pompey

Fratton Park and it’s special fans will create an amazing atmosphere 

Scum will make no noise standing there like church mice 

Pompey are proper fans and proper club 

Pompey are the biggest club in the south with amazing history and tradition 

Pompey fans never leave before the final whistle no matter what...

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

Pompey fans never leave before the final whistle no matter what...

Never and they dont turn on their own players, oh wait

 

[saintant]

30 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Tonda. Presser

 

• Expecting a great away support in a tight stadium
• The rest of the atmosphere will depend on the game
• It is an important game for both
• This is the most beautiful fixture of the year
• We will need to dig deep at times, and hopefully we will make them do more
• It means everything to win there. I have been here for 6 months, I know it means everything
• I feel it. The boys need to recover but we feel the energy of this game
• I watched the last time played them. We went very direct very early
• That is a way to start, but in terms of quality we need to find moments to bring quality on the ground also
• We never did that much in the last game
• We are progressing as a group. We had too many transfers in the summer and it takes time
• Reality is that it does not just click immediately. 
• The players are living and breathing the game, it needs to be a habit to win
• We do everything to win, we need to leave it on the pitch
• I am confident and positive that we have a group of players in the middle of a process
• What I say now does not matter, we have to do it on the pitch on Sun
• We need to see how Ross recovers, we do have an extra day so we will see
• We knew 60 mins in the week was his maximum
• Bragg is a consideration and we have Charles coming back. We will look at all opportunities
• Charles played slightly more advanced, this is not the idea going forward, but we needed to do that against Sheffield
• I want cool heads from my players on Sun, we need to take the emotion from the game
• There needs to be clarity with the players
• Of course I know the history of this fixture. Coming to a club you must understand the culture of that club
• We need to work on Leo’d heading, he should have scored a couple this season. 
• He is the type of player he needs the ball at his feet, but we must recognise the threat of the balls into the box from the other side
• He is a winner, he wants more goals, he will be important on Sun

He mentioned keeping the ball on the ground twice which leads me to think Stewart will not play from the start. It also leads me to think he will revert to 3 centre backs. Two big mistakes if it pans out that way in my opinion.

[rallyboy]

IF he does play three centre backs they'd better get up the other end and score from every fucking corner.

[Gloucester Saint]

39 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Never and they dont turn on their own players, oh wait

 

Fuck’s sake Downing!

[shirleysfc]

Has anyone with a ticket that can no longer attend spoken to the club about the ticket being used by someone else? A mate has a ticket but he's now out of the country. The club have previously said that tickets are non-refundable and non-transferable, but that's just a waste of a ticket!   

[James G]

21 hours ago, saintant said:

How does this work if the player passing the ball is behind the intended recipient? 

You pass so the player runs onto the ball. We always got told you shouldn't be facing your own goalkeeper when receiving a pass.

[NewYorkSaint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Fuck off

I love you too...

[EssEffCee]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

hope football is the winner, yes?

Strikes me as the sort of person who only wants to win if it's fair and thinks it'd be hollow if we got a poor decision in our favour.

Personally I think the best way of winning would be with a 98th minute winner that's 3 yards offside and punched into the net.

[NewYorkSaint]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

You wouldn't because you're not one of us.

Stick to baseball, basketball or whatever noddy sports you yanks enjoy. 

Actually, I'm a Brit, spent early childhood in Southampton, which is why I'm stuck as being a Saints fan for life, despite the guarantee of agony on a regular basis.    Baseball's OK. Football is what is actually worth dreaming about...  I just prefer excitement to hatred.

[EssEffCee]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Other stuff they will say pre or post game 

scummers firm never come to Pompey

Fratton Park and it’s special fans will create an amazing atmosphere 

Scum will make no noise standing there like church mice 

Pompey are proper fans and proper club 

Pompey are the biggest club in the south with amazing history and tradition 

Don't forget the dock strike classic. It's almost boring now but you have to be extra fucking thick to believe a story about the Royal Navy going on strike.

My personal favourite though has to be the one about us stealing all their food. Will never get old that.

Favourite Portsmyths could be it's own thread actually.

[HedgeEnder]

21 minutes ago, shirleysfc said:

Has anyone with a ticket that can no longer attend spoken to the club about the ticket being used by someone else? A mate has a ticket but he's now out of the country. The club have previously said that tickets are non-refundable and non-transferable, but that's just a waste of a ticket!   

Yes I have as one of our party can no longer attend. They wouldn't transfer but did give me a refund. 

[EssEffCee]

So who's that ticket gone to I wonder...

[Costa del Solent]

2 hours ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

Thanks, my friend. Some well considered points. Just to push back on a couple, however:

- research into the DNA of Pompey fans has come back inconclusive; leading discourse has drawn a link between decades of impregnating of fish (in particular, the skate) with mutations in DNA;

- whilst research has concluded that the hearts of Pompey fans do, indeed, beat, recent studies have highlighted how their heart rates actually increase when thinking about their sisters; longitudinal studies continue to track this phenomenon

- evidence actually suggests that the vast majority of Portsmouth fans do not have jobs. In fact, the only study that argued that they do was based on an analysis of three industries in Portsmouth: tattoo shops, pubs and fancy dress shops and it turns out that all of these industries are booming because of John Westwood. 
 

- whilst there are some quantifiable studies which seem to suggest Portsmouth FC fans have children, we might highlight that these studies were based on observations of their (predominantly male) fans bringing children to the games. More recent evidence, however, suggests that these were, in fact, either dates or cases of grooming. 
 

- they do indeed have dreams (see above comment regarding sisters)

I hope this provides some clarity 

 

[Yorkshire Saint]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Never and they dont turn on their own players, oh wait

 

Prefer the one with the benny hill music as they leave.

[Jack]

2 hours ago, NewYorkSaint said:

I'm a passionate Saints fan but truly struggle w the level of hatred on here for Pompey. Football's tribal, yes, but this is more like cannibalism.  Some secret facts about their players, managers and supporters:  they have DNA.  Their hearts beat and they sleep and wake up every morning just like you do. They have jobs and kids and dreams.   My personal vote... determined rivalry yes, disgust and loathing... really?!  not needed.    I just want a pulsating game - and yes, a memorable saints victory.

What a load of bollocks. They’re fucking insufferable when it comes to football, the bestest in the land, myths about their superiority as supporters, the trophy that they bought while ripping off businesses that supported them. Redknapp. That piss stained nonce with the bell and the hat. Wankers. 
 

And I grew up on the SO31/PO14 border, I’ve got quite a few mates who are skates. Just can’t talk to them about football. Most of them supported someone else until they were promoted into the Prem in 2002 or whatever it was, were ‘diehard’ ST holders for a while until they regained their normal status as a struggling football league club, and now they hardly go. There’s nothing not to hate about them. 

[EssEffCee]

15 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said:

Prefer the one with the benny hill music as they leave.

Prefixed with that cunt Westwood in an interview saying they never leave early.

[Patrick Bateman]

40 minutes ago, NewYorkSaint said:

Actually, I'm a Brit, spent early childhood in Southampton, which is why I'm stuck as being a Saints fan for life, despite the guarantee of agony on a regular basis.    Baseball's OK. Football is what is actually worth dreaming about...  I just prefer excitement to hatred.

Up the Red Sox. The Yankee fans suck as much as the skates I hear ... 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Never and they dont turn on their own players, oh wait

 

Maybe they all needed a wee?