Cyle Larin

[Eagle778]

35 minutes ago, sledger said:

why are we worried about armstrong leaving hes hasnt shown up for an age,strange he wasnt involved at stoke and we looked ok.Maybe he was disruptive behind the scenes,anyway thank you and goodbye

I for one am celebrating tonight to see the back of Arma!!! 

[SW11_Saint]

3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Welcome to Saints with a heavy dose of scepticism thrown in - not your fault - it’s SR’s seeming wish to completely destroy this club in a slow and painful downward spiral. You’re just trying to do a job and find a home for a short period. As Saints fans well give you the benefit of the doubt all the while you bust a gut on matchday. Stroll around and expect abuse. A goal or two early doors will be most welcome and somewhat unexpected.

And that’s the problem - disgruntlement at SR will manifest itself in this poor guy. I can well imagine a misplaced pass or missed chance resulting in boos - and, if that’s the case, we’ll possibly end up with some booing him when he’s coming on to replace Ross, as we did with Downs (which was appalling), 

Got to give him the benefit of the doubt, and give him support. That’s the only way he’ll build confidence. As you say, an early goal would help enormously. 

[Incidentally, I often wonder what might have happened if Damion Downs had netted that late winner v Wrexham, instead of air shotting it….Sliding doors…]

[Convict Colony]

I keep reading his name as Cycle Larin like its some sort of biking holiday.

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

And that’s the problem - disgruntlement at SR will manifest itself in this poor guy. I can well imagine a misplaced pass or missed chance resulting in boos - and, if that’s the case, we’ll possibly end up with some booing him when he’s coming on to replace Ross, as we did with Downs (which was appalling), 

Watching Brobbey last night at Sunderland was interesting on this point. He’d have a heavy first touch, look awkward and missed the ball completely from 6 yards out and there was no discontent from the fans. It’s a trust thing but you’re so right about the boos.

[hypochondriac]

16 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Watching Brobbey last night at Sunderland was interesting on this point. He’d have a heavy first touch, look awkward and missed the ball completely from 6 yards out and there was no discontent from the fans. It’s a trust thing but you’re so right about the boos.

Gee I wonder why. Could it be because they are pushing for Europe in the prem?

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Gee I wonder why. Could it be because they are pushing for Europe in the prem?

…in a season where they thought they’d just be lambs to the slaughter after witnessing our utterly pathetic showing the year before. They’re living the dream.

[Fabrice29]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Gee I wonder why. Could it be because they are pushing for Europe in the prem?

Yes? Could it be that I was talking about the player and the fans reaction to him?

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Yes? Could it be that I was talking about the player and the fans reaction to him?

I'm not sure why it's relevant to saints. Stick saints in the same situation as Sunderland and you can bet the saints fans would be cheering all the way if they had a bit of a donkey up front. Conversely stick the Sunderland fans in our situation and they aren't going to be as patient or tolerant with Downs.

[Fabrice29]

14 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure why it's relevant to saints. Stick saints in the same situation as Sunderland and you can bet the saints fans would be cheering all the way if they had a bit of a donkey up front. Conversely stick the Sunderland fans in our situation and they aren't going to be as patient or tolerant with Downs.

Yes, I did say it was a trust thing? Gee.

I saw on that TSP the owner of this site was criticising the fans recently. Nice to share opinions with such high esteem. 

[sadoldgit]

Call me old fashioned, but I am going to wait until he misses his first sitter before I write him off as a useless donkey.

[E_H_Saints]

I think it's crazy people have written this guy off already.  He may be more strength than technical which is exactly what we need.  How often do we buy technical players who then struggle because they fall over each time they are touched.  

 

I also think people clearly have no clue how the club look ATM.  Why would anyone come to a mid table club at this point in the season.. you aren't going to get a big name striker in.  In the summer maybe as the club will be selling it's ambition to go up a league but it's hard to say that now with our current form.  

[hypochondriac]

I love this process. 

*sees saints are bringing a new signing in. 

*looks at stats. Hmm doesn't look very good. 

*checks what fans of other clubs think. Hmm they are laughing and think he's terrible. 

*checks injury record. Hmm not very encouraging this season.

That doesn't mean he will definitely be terrible for us or that anyone would want him to be and of course he could turn out alright in a different league and system but if you think fans won't look at the available evidence before he plays in order to form an initial judgement then you're mental. I assume these people falsely claiming that he's been written off or that no one should comment about a player before he's played for us refrained from passing comment on more exciting signings like Fellows? If you studiously avoid all those things and refuse to even think about what a player might be like in our team then you're a bit weird quite frankly.

Edited 2 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Saint86]

I've calmed.

Plus sides, he is a big physical centre forward that will provide competition/depth for that role. His highlights reals do show there is a player in there who can be a menace and finish in and around the box, and that he'll get in the right positions - we've just got to get him firing and confident somehow. He is going to have Azaz, Fellows, and Scienza feeding him and playing off him - and they are 3 very good players for this level. So he should occupy defences and he will get service (i am prepared to accept that i may be reaching here).... But ultimately, he'll want to do well to get into the world cup team for Canada, a lot of championship defences are pretty damn poor, and this guy is joining with absolutely no expectation other than for him to be shit - so he can't really disappoint at least (silver lining).

Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86

[jasonbenali]

If you think of him as Downs' replacement, then what's not to like as it's hard to be worse. If you want peak Armstrong replacement, then less so. Maybe he'll be the non-scoring Heskey that makes the rest of the team tick...

[goodymatt]

Sounds like he’s played out wide and in the 10 mostly when featuring for Feyenoord this season? Very limited mins. Fish out of water perhaps and lots of players do need a run in a team to get up to speed. If he can hold the ball up and allow our best 3 players to do their magic in the final third, it might just work out ok.

Agree with the majority that it’s underwhelming when reviewing statistics and previous fans comments but will give him a chance to show he’s not useless.

I recall the blooper reel for Onuachu and the worst hat trick ever scored but when playing to his strengths in a lesser league, he scores goals (see Turkey and Belgium compared to PL). Hopefully Larin can also perform efficiently at the lower level that is the championship. There are some limited big and strong forwards doing well this season.

[ElTrinidad]

Hats off to SR for managing to fend off Toronto FC to sign this one

[Jack]

14 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

I've calmed.

Plus sides, he is a big physical centre forward that will provide competition/depth for that role. His highlights reals do show there is a player in there who can be a menace and finish in and around the box, and that he'll get in the right positions - we've just got to get him firing and confidence somehow. He is going to have Azaz, Fellows, and Scienza feeding him and playing off him - and they are 3 very good players for this level. So he should occupy defences and he'll will get service (i am prepared to accept that i may be reaching here).... But ultimately, he'll want to do well to get into the world cup team for Canada, a lot of championship defences are pretty damn poor, and this guy is joining with absolutely no expectation other than for him to be shit - so he can't really disappoint at least (silver lining).

Downs was supposed to do all of that but was absolutely hopeless. Given this guy’s age and experience you’d hope he’d be a little better, but has never done anything at a decent level. We’ve got to hope that Stewart stays fit 

Edited 1 hour ago by Jack

[Saint86]

3 minutes ago, Jack said:

Downs was supposed to do all of that but was absolutely hopeless. Given this guy’s age and experience you’d hope he’d be a little better, but has never done anything at all decent level. We’ve got to hope that Stewart stays fit 

Well, we'll see I guess... that is the great adventure that is being a Southampton fan (especially under SR) 🙄🫣.

At least the last 3 matches we've broadly adopted a square pegs, square holes approach to matches... So you'd like to think we haven't just sold AA (who can play RW), to replace him with this guy who is a blatant target man that we'll then play on the wing instead.... So hoping we see more of the same re players playing in their actual positions and at least with peretz at the back we seem far more solid.

Edited 1 hour ago by Saint86

[Paul_B]

Looks like he has a decent first touch..............

And he's brave (how Martin would've loved that)

Erm.....yeah. Inspiring stuff.

We could win the bottom half of the championship at this rate! Manifest that positivity!

[Harry_SFC]

24 minutes ago, Jack said:

Downs was supposed to do all of that but was absolutely hopeless. Given this guy’s age and experience you’d hope he’d be a little better, but has never done anything at a decent level. We’ve got to hope that Stewart stays fit 

He's better than Downs purely because he can't be any worse. It isn't possible. 

[notnowcato]

11 hours ago, MarkSFC said:

Lets all pray that this IS his level. Can't be worse than DD or BBD or CA.....can he?🤷‍♂️😁

When a question is prefixed on here with “Can’t be any worse than….” the strike rate of confirmation is remarkably low. 🤣

[hypochondriac]

40 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Sounds like he’s played out wide and in the 10 mostly when featuring for Feyenoord this season? Very limited mins. Fish out of water perhaps and lots of players do need a run in a team to get up to speed. If he can hold the ball up and allow our best 3 players to do their magic in the final third, it might just work out ok.

Agree with the majority that it’s underwhelming when reviewing statistics and previous fans comments but will give him a chance to show he’s not useless.

I recall the blooper reel for Onuachu and the worst hat trick ever scored but when playing to his strengths in a lesser league, he scores goals (see Turkey and Belgium compared to PL). Hopefully Larin can also perform efficiently at the lower level that is the championship. There are some limited big and strong forwards doing well this season.

I don't think anyone is going to not give him a chance- primarily because as fans we don't have any choice. If he plays well and contributes for the team then I very much doubt anyone will have an issue.

[Brussels Saint]

I've really no issue with us selling Arma, though 9m is quite cheap. He simply doesn't fit in our system that gets the best out of our other players. He's also crap at penalties and I'm pretty sure it was his miss at Norwich which would have put us 1 up in a game we eventually lost 2-1 that started the run of poor form under Tonda. 

Certainly we dont need both Arma & Archer.

 

Larin is essentially the Downs replacement. Agree, its totally underwhelming, but the good thing is that expectation is so low. Any ability to hold the ball up and keep CB's deep will be an upgrade on Arma as a central striker.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, E_H_Saints said:

I think it's crazy people have written this guy off already.  He may be more strength than technical which is exactly what we need.  How often do we buy technical players who then struggle because they fall over each time they are touched.  

 

I also think people clearly have no clue how the club look ATM.  Why would anyone come to a mid table club at this point in the season.. you aren't going to get a big name striker in.  In the summer maybe as the club will be selling it's ambition to go up a league but it's hard to say that now with our current form.  

Yeah, why would anyone come to a club in one of the best leagues in the world, who have spent long periods in the Premier League and who pay players decent money? 

[Maggie May]

I imagine he always wanted to come here thanks to big Jim Brennan. 

[M271]

Cyle will need to earn a starting place in the team. From the information I’ve seen/heard so far he’s come here expecting to get many minutes on the pitch I.e. starting not a last 25 minute sub. No doubt there will be some rotation during busy game periods but if he settles ok does Eckert plan to normally start him and have injury prone Stewart as the sub replacement mid 2nd half? Other reports I’ve read have stated that he has thrown a strop at times if things aren’t going his way, which would cause problems if he doesn’t get the minutes to make his chances of making the Canada WC squad. As I previously stated though his performances will need to justify starting.

My 800 post, it’s only taken me 17 years to get there 🎉🥳

Edited 6 minutes ago by M271

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

3 minutes ago, M271 said:

Cyle will need to earn a starting place in the team. From the information I’ve seen/heard so far he’s come here expecting to get many minutes on the pitch I.e. starting not a last 25 minute sub. No doubt there will be some rotation during busy game periods but if he settles ok does Eckert plan to normally start him and have injury prone Stewart as the sub replacement mid 2nd half? Other reports I’ve read have stated that he has thrown a strop at times if things aren’t going his way, which would cause problems if he doesn’t get the minutes to make his chances of making the Canada WC squad. As I previously stated though his performances will need to justify starting.

Fortunately they have a near full week on the training ground to access his fitness and his fitting into the side. I would think little chance he starts Saturday coming off the bench mid-second half. Unless Stewart pulls up, it’s been a while!

[OldNick]

Welcome Cyle, dont listen to the doubters.