Saints Charged With Spying on Mboro Training

[Midfield_General]

Darren Bent on Talkshite laughing it off and saying it's deserving of nothing more than a small fine and that everyone should move on. Goldstein agreeing. 

It's obviously not the barometer of quality discussion but at least some people haven't lost their fucking minds

Edited 27 minutes ago by Midfield_General

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Darren Bent on Talkshite laughing it off and saying it's deserving of nothing more than a small fine and then everyone should move on

Yeah, but he is no Troy Deeney!

[Pamplemousse]

8 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said:

Am I allowed to be a bit concerned over the ruling, or should I ask the wife to tell me to stop being a fanny?

The worst we will get is a points deduction but even that would be super harsh.

A large fine and a goodwill donation to Middlesbrough's community trust by way of apology would be more appropriate.

Or we can make them a massive offer for Hayden Hackney in the summer

[Sunglasses Ron]

I expect what might help is if the club can demonstrate an appropriate ‘Code of Conduct’ that their staff have received and agreed to.

A well run club should have something like this in place that suitably captures some of the key rules that apply to them.

if this was the case then it would almost certainly help to mitigate some of the repercussions as it would be viewed more about rogue employee behaviour rather than a condoned culture.

[SWLondon Saint]

From any kind of procedural perspective for an actual panel, surely the accuser here has to provide some concrete evidence more than a couple of witness statements and a photo of some bloke whom it sounds like they've identified from LinkedIn as connected with Saints since there's no interns listed on our site. I can see that could be considered enough to start a charge, but the burden of proof when push comes to shove is always on the accuser and not the defendant. This bollocks about forensic phone and bank trails is simply not going to happen unless Boro have cast iron facts from, say, a private investigator of their own. Which all the news so far points to them not having. If they had it, they'd already have leaked it for sure.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Darren Bent on Talkshite laughing it off and saying it's deserving of nothing more than a small fine and then everyone should move on

This is the sort of narrative which seems to be going a bit more mainstream now, some sense at last.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Whoever would’ve thought the pundits on Talkshite are making the most sense.

No coincidence all these articles are coming out the day before the home game.

Theyre desperate

[Midfield_General]

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Yeah, but he is no Troy Deeney!

Deeney should remind himself what the rules are about kicking the shit of students before he starts taking the moral high ground about right and wrong

Oh yes, I remember, the rules mean six months in prison, isn't that right Troy

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Willo of Whiteley said:

Whoever would’ve thought the pundits on Talkshite are making the most sense.

No coincidence all these articles are coming out the day before the home game.

Theyre desperate

I genuinely thought we had peaked a few weeks back, and thought that at HT on Sat.

But, I cannot help feeling that given the absolute insanity shown by the Boro journos and online contributors (along with their manager, but he has a point), will have added an additional spark for us. 

Had there been days leading into a night game up at Boro, it would have been chaos, but they have shot their bolt IMO. The welcome outside the ground will surely have added spice and edge, plus the atmosphere in the ground.

[HarvSFC]

Starting to get the sense that Middlesbrough aren't confident in beating us... And if we do win tomorrow Kim Hellberg's going to be the sorest loser going.

If we win tomorrow and fans start buying tickets for Wembley, it would be a logistical nightmare to refund us all who bought tickets. So, don't worry Middlesbrough, a bit of common sense, that isn't happening, nothing to worry about, let your players go on their holidays.

At the end of the day, tomorrow's a fair game and the best team on the night will deservedly go through.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

11 minutes ago, benjii said:

Just a rehash of before.

Although hilarious that they want a speedy resolution but also some sort of forensic deep dive! We can string that out for months.

Just wait until the NCA find a £5 sub to SaintsWeb as they review the transaction history!

I hope all our alibis stand up. Or if not stand up, at least don't lurk in bushes.

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, HarvSFC said:

If we win tomorrow and fans start buying tickets for Wembley, it would be a logistical nightmare to refund us all who bought tickets. 

I doubt the independent commission would care about that impacting their decision. 

[obelisk]

25 minutes ago, Appy said:

The Boro head coach revealed on Monday that his squad practised penalty kicks last week, again highlighting the advantage Southampton could have gained by recording their session.

That would have happened more than 72 hours before the game where penalties would be a factor. This lot are idiots.

[Midfield_General]

6 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Starting to get the sense that Middlesbrough aren't confident in beating us... And if we do win tomorrow Kim Hellberg's going to be the sorest loser going.

If we win tomorrow and fans start buying tickets for Wembley, it would be a logistical nightmare to refund us all who bought tickets. So, don't worry Middlesbrough, a bit of common sense, that isn't happening, nothing to worry about, let your players go on their holidays.

At the end of the day, tomorrow's a fair game and the best team on the night will deservedly go through.

I'm actually starting to think it might disrupt their preparations more than ours

If their players start believing the deranged narrative from inside their club that they genuinely might not be out even if they lose, then that can have all sorts of weird psychological knock-on effects

All I want now is for us to beat them 1-0 with the winner scored by Finn Azaz, ideally from a clearly offside position

Melts

Edited 1 hour ago by Midfield_General

[Polaroid Saint]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

I still like Bob Mortimer though

I like my spices fruity, 

I like my lemons hot

I like to hide in the bushes

Spying on men in shorts and wot-not.

I film it from the fairway and the green

I film it from the Tee,

Tomorrow I will kill again,

This time in West Quay.

[um pahars]

4 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Starting to get the sense that Middlesbrough aren't confident in beating us... And if we do win tomorrow Kim Hellberg's going to be the sorest loser going.

If we win tomorrow and fans start buying tickets for Wembley, it would be a logistical nightmare to refund us all who bought tickets. So, don't worry Middlesbrough, a bit of common sense, that isn't happening, nothing to worry about, let your players go on their holidays.

At the end of the day, tomorrow's a fair game and the best team on the night will deservedly go through.

Exactly what I posted on the Ugly Inside earlier on.

IF we beat Boro (and it’s no guarantee) then as soon as tickets for the final start getting sold it’s game over with regards being kicked out of the play offs.

At that point the final would have to go ahead and if we win and get kicked out, then who takes our place?

Boro who were “””robbed”””” in the semis or Millwall/Hull who shouldn’t have had to play us.

 

[EssEffCee]

20 minutes ago, benjii said:

Also why are they grumbling about making plans for the final? You would do that anyway. Weird.

They're on about doing that even if they lose tomorrow as they think we might be kicked out.

[benjii]

2 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

They're on about doing that even if they lose tomorrow as they think we might be kicked out.

Weirdos.

[RedArmy]

I wonder what end Boro will get at Wembley when we win tomorrow. 

[Gloucester Saint]

22 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Yeah, but he is no Troy Deeney!

In the sense that he hasn’t been imprisoned for kicking someone in the head, that’s certainly true. 

[Gloucester Saint]

4 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

I wonder what end Boro will get at Wembley when we win tomorrow. 

The Bell End

[EssEffCee]

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

It’s called Levelling Up. Gets addictive for left behind areas after a couple of rounds. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Gloucester Saint

[Give it to Ron]

1 minute ago, EssEffCee said:

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

Insisting that it’s done quickly too aren’t we allowed the approved time to mount a defence even if guilty we have been a bit pre-occupied and should have that time as standard.

[Miltonaggro]

2 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

Assuming Saints get fined £200,000 and this goes to Middlesbrough, Gibbo will be able to personally give every one of their 19k season ticket holders £10 each. This could happen on the centre circle or dole office. Win, win. 

[scumbag]

What a complete and utter shitfest.  

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Miltonaggro said:

Assuming Saints get fined £200,000 and this goes to Middlesbrough, Gibbo will be able to personally give every one of their 19k season ticket holders £10 each. This could happen at dole office. Win, win. 

Let’s keep it accurate.

[Miltonaggro]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Let’s keep it accurate.

£10.52

[EssEffCee]

2 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

£10.52

That'll buy them a house up there.

[SaintJakko]

Time to start the rumour that Steve Gibson paid our intern to “spy” on them so that he could cause this whole ruse as a free entry to the Prem. 
 

This will then come out, and he’ll be charged!
 

 

 

 

 

 

P.s Boro fans watching, this is called a joke.  

[hypochondriac]

So many articles out now. So obvious they all emanate from the North and we have said nothing. Quite pathetic really.

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

That'll buy them a house up there.

Few years ago mind but you’re not that far off

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/britains-cheapest-house-is-750-in-port-1355162

[trousers]

Hold the front page! It turns out not all Middlesbrough fans are as thick as mince...

 

[Football Special]

37 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

[Football Special]

39 minutes ago, EssEffCee said:

One thing I find very strange is the Boro fans insistence that they benefit from any punishment.

Literally never how it's worked.

Its not about punishing us at all really is it, rather giving them sometime for nothing, classic where there's blame there's a claim mentality 

Edited 49 minutes ago by Football Special

[Appy]

They want our punishment to benefit them because they’ve shat the bed in terms of automatic promotion and shat the bed on Saturday , so want a leg up from the EFL if they shit the bed tomorrow. 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Appy

[ChrisPY]

It’s all been a big misunderstanding…

[James G]

5 hours ago, Ken Tone said:

What strikes me is that we clearly didn't gain anything from any information gained. We played our usual team, in our usual formation...... no changes to counteract any tactic or formation of theirs. 

About the only potentially useful thing we might have learnt was that Hackney(?)  wasn't fit. If he had been, maybe we'd have detailed someone to man mark him.... maybe 

On a first game back after injury, no player plays at their best. And Middlesborough had already released information on whether he was playing. We play the same lineups, and play the same way mostly, and Middlesborough just did the same thing too, their possession, their overloads in areas and their pressing, and then missing the goal. Both teams played the same

The whole thing is daft, bad that someone spied for whatever reason, but daft.

We could watch their training, they could watch ours. It doesn't change anything

Regardless of the whole hoo haa they should knock us out properly rather than depending on a bye. Hoping for that is going to affect them more than us, and I don't think all this sabre rattling is helping them either. Let the (hopefully) independent commission make their decisions based on the evidence rather than trying to make demands

[hypochondriac]

Imagine if we win tomorrow and Boro keep on training for ten days. Not only will we have robbed them of promotion but we'll rob them of a chunk of their summer holidays too! Mugs.

[gandalf]

Local BBC South hardly mentioned Saints this evening. Just a passing comment about the 0-0 draw and not to bring flares etc to the game tomorrow.

[DellBlockH]

1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

He's talking about Hantavirus, but I can't help that feeling there's a little crossover here 

We've got enough ridicule directed at the club without Matt having an episode.

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, gandalf said:

Local BBC South hardly mentioned Saints this evening. Just a passing comment about the 0-0 draw and not to bring flares etc to the game tomorrow.

Yep... Adam Blackmore not tweeted anything for two days... Make of that what you will... Maybe had his knuckles rapped over his previous 'spygate' comments...?