#Spygate

[Jimmy_D]

2 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

One does wonder if the Circle of Trust are privy to any current goings on at the club 👀😉

It’s all Turkish, he’s the spy. That’s how he’s been so ITK about our unbeaten run. That the reason it’s called the Circle of Trust. It’s all so clear now.

[sockeye]

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

Fuckin twats

[RedArmy]

50 minutes ago, SaintlyAnd said:

My gut feel based on all that is I can imagine the clubs internal investigation saying this was something done by a couple of analysts and they’ll be disciplined. So not the lone wolf thing, but also not the everyone-complicit thing.

I could see that being true. 
 

I remember Boro fans finding another Saints analyst who had worked for them and also deleted his LinkedIn. Can’t remember his name and fucked if I’m reading through that thread on the mental asylum they call a forum. 
 

Entirely conceivable that he’s the “chief spy”and has sent the intern up to Boro as being an ex employee he would be spotted rather easily and known. 
 

Probably didn't account for just how much of an amateur this young lad turned out to be. 

[Dr. Kucho]

10 minutes ago, Jimmy_D said:

It’s all Turkish, he’s the spy. That’s how he’s been so ITK about our unbeaten run. That the reason it’s called the Circle of Trust. It’s all so clear now.

Shouldn’t it be called the “Circle of Turkish” if it’s all about him? 

[Jimmy_D]

3 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

Or they just happen to have a PO postcode  

[BotleySaint]

3 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

Sorry but when I read this I just assumed it was Middlesbrough fans pretending to be Saints fans to keep building the momentum.

No way to prove either way.

[Farmer Saint]

4 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

Fucking pussies. Let's send Will Salt round to spy on their wives.

[James G]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Fucking pussies. Let's send Will Salt round to spy on their wives.

We could send Bill Pepper round too, but I wouldn't want to Push It

[grezz]

35 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

"We were watching Middlesbrough"

That's the look, that's the look

The look of Will

That's the look, that's the look

The look of Will

That's the look, that's the look

The look of Willlllll

Heavens above.

 

[trousers]

39 minutes ago, saintant said:

One of the most interesting insights about this I've read so thanks for the content. The overarching take from it seems to be that all clubs have and are doing it and nobody has wanted to or bothered to police it so a blind eye is turned. This begs the question as to why Boro have suddenly decided to take the action they have and I'm not sure of the answer. The only thing that springs to mind is that they saw it as a chance to get us on the back foot in the lead up to this game and create a narrative that they've fueled so that it gathered momentum. Might be well off the mark but if what's posted by SaintlyAnd is true they certainly seem to have gone left field on it but for what reason?

It also begs the question, have Boro themselves been at it and is there any evidence on them?

 

Yep, good points. I'd even go as far as suggesting that @SaintlyAnd puts his ex-analyst friend in touch with the club as it sounds like he has some relevant intel that could be used in our defence 👍🏻

[HarvSFC]

You can just see the fans forum this summer. Instead of questions about the women's team and making St Mary's more welcoming for away fans. We'll get, why didn't we forfeit the Middlesbrough games and give them a bye to the play-off finals?

[Barry the Badger]

I am so baffled by this. 

IF the club sent him for some super secret spying, that cannot possibly be his attempt.

[Saint Fan CaM]

13 hours ago, 64saint said:

Ok, I've come back to chastise you mate.  You most certainly got it wrong. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fair play, but as I’ve already explained, it was said in the spirit of reverse psychology…hence the winky emoji. 🤭

[Verbal]

Will Salt's "I was major espionage plotter" story falls apart as actual footage from his iPhone is released.

 

[Cuddles]

7 minutes ago, Verbal said:

Will Salt's "I was major espionage plotter" story falls apart as actual footage from his iPhone is released.

 

Woz this, bitty?

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

Who are these utter fucking wet lettuces. Fannies.

[31cc]

1 hour ago, sockeye said:

Some of our fans are total virtue signaling wets

There was a post like this on Twitter but after about 2 seconds of sleuthing I found out he was a Leeds fan.

[HarvSFC]

Remember the gamesmanship from Swansea in the build up to the Gabbiadini game in 2018? Were the media and pundits calling them cheats and demanding a forfeit, financial compensation and a points deduction as they did everything in their power to unsettle us and gain an advantage prior to the match starting?

Or did it quickly get brushed over and Mark Hughes said, their tactics motivated us? "We suspected that maybe it was some of the dark arts at work but we didn't let it affect us, in fact we used it as a motivating factor. That helped our focus and we won't be staying in the vicinity of the hotel Marriott Swansea, I think we will stick to the Vale of Glamorgan."

[CSA96]

6 hours ago, Football Special said:

Im confused why Middlesbrough are appointing lawyers in their case against Southampton, they are acting like prosecutors in a court of law rather than just 'reporting the incident to EFL'

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nick-de-marco-middlesbrough-hire-33939191?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwdGRjcARxqExjbGNrBHGn2mV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHjTJB4BA2sdHDw-SGNCP12tQ8d-VMi2JQKOsr8UTq1C_ZpeE5_YiO_qxEtQ4_aem_mv4Ad_Vj7UA63Bgo9oBSuw

Throwing absolutely everything at it arent they rather than just trying to beat us on the pitch 

Because Gibson's got an eye on preparing for what comes next. Once he doesn't get the EFL punishment he's stomping his feet for and demanding - Saints to be removed and our place at Wembley gifted to Boro - he'll take direct legal action against SFC to claim damages instead so that we have to pay him to fuck off. Just ask Derby.

Edited 2 hours ago by CSA96

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

I haven't been on SaintsWeb for ages, but felt it might be time for me to weigh in due to my particular insight into this story...

You see, as my username will tell you, I live in the village of Hurworth-on-Tees... which is significant because the Rockliffe training ground is not in Middlesbrough, but is actually in Hurworth-on-Tees. I live right opposite the Rockliffe grounds including Hotel, Golf Club, training ground, cricket club and woods.

I can tell you that there is a lot of rubbish being shared about the story and some of the pictures. Here is my take:

1. The Middlesbrough FC First Team training pitch is on the opposite side of the MFC training centre from the Rockliffe Hotel and golf club.

2. The picture of a boy stood behind a tree filming does not, as far as I can see, tally with anywhere around the first team training pitch.

3. The other picture of a tree beside a gate with training pitches in the background DOES appear to be taken from the gate near to the Rockliffe Golf clubhouse.

4. However, the pitches in the background of that picture are supplementary training pitches and, as stated above, that is not the First Team Training pitch. Those pitches are mainly used by the academy sides and women's sides for their training. However, it is possible that some training could have taken place there, but I'm not convinced any spy would have been able to see significant tactical input in that area.

5. If I were to spy on MFC's first team training, instead of trying to get to the first team training pitch from the golf course, I would walk along the public footpath around the perimeter of Rockliffe and slip through the woods where it is possible to spy on the training pitch. From there you could also stay out of sight of CCTV cameras.

6. I have downloaded an aerial view of Rockliffe using Google and based on my local knowledge I have edited the image to show:

• Where a lot of the rumours about the spying seem to be suggesting the spy was caught
• Where the first team training pitch is
• Where the other training and exhibition pitches are
• The footpaths around the training ground.
• The location of the clubhouse and training centre.
• The rough area where I think any decent spy would have positioned themselves to film training.

Here is the image:

Finally, here is a photo that I took on Friday of the gate near the golf clubhouse where the reports seem to be suggesting the spying took place (with the tree shown!):

You may also be interested with the following video that I took from the lawn of Rockliffe Hotel, which shoots over the top of the grassy roof of the clubhouse and scans around to the training centre: 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by SaintJackoInHurworth
Adding in photo and video

[leeham_69]

1 hour ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

I haven't been on SaintsWeb for ages, but felt it might be time for me to weigh in due to my particular insight into this story...

You see, as my username will tell you, I live in the village of Hurworth-on-Tees... which is significant because the Rockliffe training ground is not in Middlesbrough, but is actually in Hurworth-on-Tees. I live right opposite the Rockliffe grounds including Hotel, Golf Club, training ground, cricket club and woods.

I can tell you that there is a lot of rubbish being shared about the story and some of the pictures. Here is my take:

1. The Middlesbrough FC First Team training pitch is on the opposite side of the MFC training centre from the Rockliffe Hotel and golf club.

2. The picture of a boy stood behind a tree filming does not, as far as I can see, tally with anywhere around the first team training pitch.

3. The other picture of a tree beside a gate with training pitches in the background DOES appear to be taken from the gate near to the Rockliffe Golf clubhouse.

4. However, the pitches in the background of that picture are supplementary training pitches and, as stated above, that is not the First Team Training pitch. Those pitches are mainly used by the academy sides and women's sides for their training. However, it is possible that some training could have taken place there, but I'm not convinced any spy would have been able to see significant tactical input in that area.

5. If I were to spy on MFC's first team training, instead of trying to get to the first team training pitch from the golf course, I would walk along the public footpath around the perimeter of Rockliffe and slip through the woods where it is possible to spy on the training pitch. From there you could also stay out of sight of CCTV cameras.

6. I have downloaded an aerial view of Rockliffe using Google and based on my local knowledge I have edited the image to show:

• Where a lot of the rumours about the spying seem to be suggesting the spy was caught
• Where the first team training pitch is
• Where the other training and exhibition pitches are
• The footpaths around the training ground.
• The location of the clubhouse and training centre.
• The rough area where I think any decent spy would have positioned themselves to film training.

Here is the image:

Finally, here is a photo that I took on Friday of the gate near the golf clubhouse where the reports seem to be suggesting the spying took place (with the tree shown!):

You may also be interested with the following video that I took from the lawn of Rockliffe Hotel, which shoots over the top of the grassy roof of the clubhouse and scans around to the training centre: 

 

Thanks for the leg work. This is great. These simple shots and video really undermine the outrage of our Boro friends. You would think a video taken from that spot, at full zoom on an iPhone takes a fair bit of the sting out of the "surveillance equipment" claims. 

PS email this to the club, they might pay you to be their next spy

[benjii]

6 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Between now and the playoff final we need to come up with a song that 36k Saints fans can sing about Middlesbrough.

One last opportunity to stick one back at them for sure.

(1) ‘Are you watching Middlesbrough?’ (Maybe simple but it’s a start)

Adam Johnson, he's one of your own.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, SaintJackoInHurworth said:

I haven't been on SaintsWeb for ages, but felt it might be time for me to weigh in due to my particular insight into this story...

You see, as my username will tell you, I live in the village of Hurworth-on-Tees... which is significant because the Rockliffe training ground is not in Middlesbrough, but is actually in Hurworth-on-Tees. I live right opposite the Rockliffe grounds including Hotel, Golf Club, training ground, cricket club and woods.

I can tell you that there is a lot of rubbish being shared about the story and some of the pictures. Here is my take:

1. The Middlesbrough FC First Team training pitch is on the opposite side of the MFC training centre from the Rockliffe Hotel and golf club.

2. The picture of a boy stood behind a tree filming does not, as far as I can see, tally with anywhere around the first team training pitch.

3. The other picture of a tree beside a gate with training pitches in the background DOES appear to be taken from the gate near to the Rockliffe Golf clubhouse.

4. However, the pitches in the background of that picture are supplementary training pitches and, as stated above, that is not the First Team Training pitch. Those pitches are mainly used by the academy sides and women's sides for their training. However, it is possible that some training could have taken place there, but I'm not convinced any spy would have been able to see significant tactical input in that area.

5. If I were to spy on MFC's first team training, instead of trying to get to the first team training pitch from the golf course, I would walk along the public footpath around the perimeter of Rockliffe and slip through the woods where it is possible to spy on the training pitch. From there you could also stay out of sight of CCTV cameras.

6. I have downloaded an aerial view of Rockliffe using Google and based on my local knowledge I have edited the image to show:

• Where a lot of the rumours about the spying seem to be suggesting the spy was caught
• Where the first team training pitch is
• Where the other training and exhibition pitches are
• The footpaths around the training ground.
• The location of the clubhouse and training centre.
• The rough area where I think any decent spy would have positioned themselves to film training.

Here is the image:

Finally, here is a photo that I took on Friday of the gate near the golf clubhouse where the reports seem to be suggesting the spying took place (with the tree shown!):

You may also be interested with the following video that I took from the lawn of Rockliffe Hotel, which shoots over the top of the grassy roof of the clubhouse and scans around to the training centre: 

 

Send to SFC!