saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Athletic reporting now too. I’m sure there is a deal to be done here, just no idea on his current level having not seen him play in a while. Oh dear. We'll regret this if it happens. 6
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: TBF I would hardly describe 31 as over the hill. It's not his fault that he hasn't been played as much as he'd like. I'm sure he'd have been available for every game. Some told us that Romeu's legs had gone at the end of his first spell here and he went on to play for Barcelona! Edited 2 hours ago by Ex Lion Tamer 3
Baird of the land Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, goodymatt said: Telegraph also I was hoping this was just Blackmore idiocy. This atrocious rumour seems to be building up a head of steam, which isn’t something I’d expect from our midfield if it comes to pass. 7
Harry_SFC Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, saintant said: Oh dear. We'll regret this if it happens. Tend to agree 1
hypochondriac Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Although I'm not against jwp, if it turns out that our central midfield for this season is: Downes Jander JWP Bragg Whilst I'd be very happy not to lose Jander I'd still feel a little underwhelmed and feel we lack some options there.
hypochondriac Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I was hoping this was just Blackmore idiocy. This atrocious rumour seems to be building up a head of steam, which isn’t something I’d expect from our midfield if it comes to pass. Atrocious rumour. You fanny.
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: Although I'm not against jwp, if it turns out that our central midfield for this season is: Downes Jander JWP Bragg Whilst I'd be very happy not to lose Jander I'd still feel a little underwhelmed and feel we lack some options there. Downes apart there’s very little muscle or aggression there. As said elsewhere we need a good DM, and/or a bit more size/height of an enforcer there. A Schneiderlin or Wanyama. The Columbian bloke seemed to match up but wants to stay at Real Betis. 1
Maggie May Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago JWP coming back would be fantastic. The Championship is his level now. 2 1
Turkish Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Hengistbury Header said: 2023-24 c3000 league minutes, 7 goals. 2024-25 c1500 league minutes, 1 goal. 2025-26 c1000 league minutes, 0 goals. Playing an ever decreasing time at a higher level, wit ever decreasing goals. A goal a game if you do the math 1
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Although I'm not against jwp, if it turns out that our central midfield for this season is: Downes Jander JWP Bragg Whilst I'd be very happy not to lose Jander I'd still feel a little underwhelmed and feel we lack some options there. Of course because we'd effectively be replacing a player with the strength, stamina and ability of Shea Charles with the plodding crab JWP. Madness. 4
Baird of the land Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, saintant said: Of course because we'd effectively be replacing a player with the strength, stamina and ability of Shea Charles with the plodding crab JWP. Madness. I fully expect to now spend the season shouting in frustration while our crabs don’t run with the ball and instead recycle the ball slowly.
Osvaldorama Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago He’s just not what we need. I’m a big fan of him, but he is exactly the opposite of what we need. Hes not strong or powerful enough. He doesn’t dominate games. He’s not able to score free kicks anymore. If he wasn’t here before we’d never be interested. Cannot see it working well. 4
gallaghert366@yahoo.com Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, saintant said: Of course because we'd effectively be replacing a player with the strength, stamina and ability of Shea Charles with the plodding crab JWP. Madness. Absolute lunacy, 1
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I was hoping this was just Blackmore idiocy. This atrocious rumour seems to be building up a head of steam, which isn’t something I’d expect from our midfield if it comes to pass. Assuming one of our midfield could pass.
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: He’s just not what we need. I’m a big fan of him, but he is exactly the opposite of what we need. Hes not strong or powerful enough. He doesn’t dominate games. He’s not able to score free kicks anymore. If he wasn’t here before we’d never be interested. Cannot see it working well. He's very slow, 5' 8 and will replace a player who is 6' 2. We need more speed, height, strength and power in midfield not less. 5
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He will be the Jander replacement 👀 Couldn't lace Jander's boots nowadays.
Harry_SFC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, saintant said: He's very slow, 5' 8 and will replace a player who is 6' 2. We need more speed, height, strength and power in midfield not less. It feels like another PR stunt just like with Romeu and look how that turned out.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He will be the Jander replacement 👀 Agreed. I'd be astonished if Jander is still here come the end of the window. Would leave only Scienza and Azaz left of our most saleable assets.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Maggie May said: JWP coming back would be fantastic. The Championship is his level now. You’re absolutely right. The problem is, to get out of the Championship you’ve got to play at lower Prem level at least to get near auto-promotion. Signing and playing JWP would be shooting ourselves in the foot for what? More possession? Someone who can score at least 80% of free kicks taken on goal? He’s never been a tackler…never be been a decisive provider of through balls or assists in general. If I remember correctly his corners were a pretty ineffective. There was a season where he played in a more ACM role and managed to score a couple of goals, but I suspect those days have gone. Minimal gains and a big drain on the salary budget. Not for me unless Spors really can’t find anyone better. 1
beatlesaint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He will be the Jander replacement 👀 He really won’t. 1
KingInDaSouf Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Has Imran Louza landed anywhere yet? Still think he'd be a good addition for us. 1
CSA96 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, KingInDaSouf said: Has Imran Louza landed anywhere yet? Still think he'd be a good addition for us. Watford agreed terms with Panathinaikos earlier today I think 1 1
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 15 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: He’s just not what we need. I’m a big fan of him, but he is exactly the opposite of what we need. Hes not strong or powerful enough. He doesn’t dominate games. He’s not able to score free kicks anymore. If he wasn’t here before we’d never be interested. Cannot see it working well. Of course it is a matter of opinion but he is just what we need. A high status individual in the dressing room, who is still 31, highly professional, a role model, who loves our club. When you have a manager who is just 32 you need powerful figures in the dressing room. The idea that he cannot score free kicks is absurd, you can still take free kicks when you are in your fifties, its the rest of your game that deteriorates. It is a gamble but my instinct says its significantly less of a gamble than bringing in somebody unproven from a European league who if they do prove themselves will just bugger off. The one thing JWP will do if he is a success is leave again! Edited 1 hour ago by Sergei Gotsmanov 2
West end Saints Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Looking back at his time at Burnley it looks a mixed bag, some poor performances but He was one of Burnley's better players against Man City and Bournemouth, covering the most distance so fitness still there.
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said: Of course it is a matter of opinion but he is just what we need. A high status individual in the dressing room, who is still 31, highly professional, a role model, who loves our club. When you have a manager who is just 32 you need powerful figures in the dressing room. The idea that he cannot score free kicks is absurd, you can still take free kicks when you are in your fifties, its the rest of your game that deteriorates. It is a gamble but my instinct says its significantly less of a gamble than bringing in somebody unproven from a European league who if they do prove themselves will just bugger off. The one thing JWP will do if he is a success is leave again! Don't think he's scored a free kick in over 3 seasons has he?
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Just thinking forward to a cold Sunday in February, the game locked at 1-1 at Fratton and JWP curls a free kick in from 30 yards in the 93rd minute to score his first free kick since he left Southampton the last time to send Southampton seven points clear at the top of the table... 3 points....
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, West end Saints said: Looking back at his time at Burnley it looks a mixed bag, some poor performances but He was one of Burnley's better players against Man City and Bournemouth, covering the most distance so fitness still there. Wouldn't read too much into what he was like at Burnley. They were just as bad as us in our last season in the PL.
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, saintant said: Don't think he's scored a free kick in over 3 seasons has he? Is that because he's become crap at free kicks or because he hasn't been taking (m)any...? 2
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said: 3 points.... Yeah you're right. 7 points clear is unrealistic.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He will be the Jander replacement 👀 Wet wipe.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, KingInDaSouf said: Has Imran Louza landed anywhere yet? Still think he'd be a good addition for us. Not sure I’d be keen on a player that opts to go on strike and throws their toys out the pram.
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Willo of Whiteley said: Wet wipe. Is that hugely unlikely? It's not like Jander has given loads of signs thus far that he's up for playing for us again.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, saintant said: Don't think he's scored a free kick in over 3 seasons has he? I would put that down to a deflated level of confidence and a lack of game time. Get his confidence up again at a club he feels at home with and the goals will start coming again particularly at this level. Out of interest how important do you think dressing room morale is on team performance? 1
Football Special Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 31 minutes ago, Maggie May said: JWP coming back would be fantastic. The Championship is his level now. I'd welcome him, reckon he'd do a job , score vs the skates and do the golf club swing in front of the away end. Plus his Dads law firm can represent Tonda at FA hearing on mate's rates 4 1
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Yeah you're right. 7 points clear is unrealistic. I was thinking -4 points!
woodsaint1 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Wasnt sure what to make of JWP possibly returning. Perhaps Walcott and more recently Romeu have left me scarred. But if we're replacing Charles with JWP (and Jander stays) and we're making a big profit then I'm happy with that. He's still a good player and has always been super fit. We were close to the best team in the league from January onwards with Downes/Jander/Charles/Bragg in CM. We're replacing the player who didnt play that much (and I'm a big Charles fan) with a player with significant experience who will give everything for the club 3
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Wasnt sure what to make of JWP possibly returning. Perhaps Walcott and more recently Romeu have left me scarred. But if we're replacing Charles with JWP (and Jander stays) and we're making a big profit then I'm happy with that. He's still a good player and has always been super fit. We were close to the best team in the league from January onwards with Downes/Jander/Charles/Bragg in CM. We're replacing the player who didnt play that much (and I'm a big Charles fan) with a player with significant experience who will give everything for the club I think Romeu and to some extent Walcott behind the scenes made a big difference around the club. I was though surprised how off the pace he was. JWP is 31 though so should have some more in the tank particularly as he has not played much recently! Edited 1 hour ago by Sergei Gotsmanov
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said: I would put that down to a deflated level of confidence and a lack of game time. Get his confidence up again at a club he feels at home with and the goals will start coming again particularly at this level. Out of interest how important do you think dressing room morale is on team performance? Well he certainly won't improve dressing room morale if he comes here on big money and fails to contribute as much as team mates on far less.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: That's going to please Turkish 2
hypochondriac Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Just thinking about the logistics of it, if jwp was to come in, couldn't we give him a reasonable signing bonus and the other give him lower wages so he isn't on something ridiculous and upset the rest of the dressing room? He's reportedly on £50k a week. Could we gove him a two year contract on £30k with a 2 million signing bonus and get him off the hammers for a few million? Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac
Hengistbury Header Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 49 minutes ago, Turkish said: A goal a game if you do the math A goal every 6 games if you do the math properly. And, recently, far less.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, saintant said: Well he certainly won't improve dressing room morale if he comes here on big money and fails to contribute as much as team mates on far less. That is potentiality a fair observation but the way he conducted himself before indicates to me that he will not be one to just pocket the money. How would you get the dressing room revved up How would you get a feel good factor going with a limited budget?
Challenger Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 46 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I fully expect to now spend the season shouting in frustration while our crabs don’t run with the ball and instead recycle the ball slowly. Just make sure you do it whilst out of your seat as predicted by our owner.
Saint86 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, trousers said: Is that because he's become crap at free kicks or because he hasn't been taking (m)any...? Well, he's score a corner in his time away with west ham, so as far as i'm aware he now holds the premier league set piece record - he just didn't get credited with it because it wasn't a free kick 😄 1
Osvaldorama Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Sergei Gotsmanov said: That is potentiality a fair observation but the way he conducted himself before indicates to me that he will not be one to just pocket the money. How would you get the dressing room revved up How would you get a feel good factor going with a limited budget? He led us into relegation then fucked off as soon as he could Don’t think he’s the “leader” we need 1 4
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 22 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Is that hugely unlikely? It's not like Jander has given loads of signs thus far that he's up for playing for us again. Bit difficult when you’re injured. 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Multi-club model benefit? Buy players, loan out for development, don’t develop, release on a free years later.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago JWP coming back would be good for the dressing room and bulls up the midfield, however we still need that physical presence in the centre of the pitch. If he acts as the shithouse player he once was then no complaints from me. I’m more concerned that we’re yet to shift on Sugawara, Brereton, Ramsdale, Downs, Bazunu etc.
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