david in sweden Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 (edited) with our fate (+\- 10points) already sealed, I would expect an announcement in the next few days. New owners will want to introduce themselves, and make the best of a bad season and give everyone a chance to meet them and get media coverage while the season is still unfinished. PLUS - a chance to watch the last game v. Forest to see their NEW team. I don't have access to names...but the likes of a " Souness consortium," or even " Hoddle consortium " wouldn't be a bad choice, IMHO both were "victims" of their encounters with Lowe (one way or another) and are , at least - " real football ". Hopefully they'll be no trace of the previous Board (with a few exceptions - Mary). Sooner the better and let's get on with the planning. Good for the club, fans and players to know what's happening ASAP. COYR !!!!!! Edited 27 April, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I would guess a deal has to be done in the next ten days based on no money to pay anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 (edited) Tomorrow? Either Virgin or a consortium of 5? Edited 27 April, 2009 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tony Husband said on Radio Solent on Saturday that Fry had told him that one of the bidders would be made public this week (words to that effect at least) so who knows, we might just turn the corner yet !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 So can we can safely say NO lowe coming back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 So can we can safely say NO lowe coming back ? It all sounds very much up in the air, at present doesn't it ? I think we can safely say ..it's Monday, but only until midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 It all sounds very much up in the air, at present doesn't it ? I think we can safely say ..it's Monday, but only until midnight. But midnight where? If it's an Australian based consortium we've got less than 6 hours of Monday to go, if Hawaiian based it's not even Monday yet. We need to stop with this senseless speculation as to what day it is until we know the identities of the bidders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Which leads to a question, from my simplistic viewpoint. Let's say we get a team that has won the bid, all that's needed is to dot the 'i's and cross the 't's. Meanwhile the club gets into a 'we need £100k today or we fold' situation. Can the bid winners stump this up to avoid folding? In fact, would it be wise (given that it would probably be in their interests to)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Which leads to a question, from my simplistic viewpoint. Let's say we get a team that has won the bid, all that's needed is to dot the 'i's and cross the 't's. Meanwhile the club gets into a 'we need £100k today or we fold' situation. Can the bid winners stump this up to avoid folding? In fact, would it be wise (given that it would probably be in their interests to)? I guess that if we can put money in buckets then so could they, no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The Grauniad reckons we'll fold if we don't conclude a deal within 8 days: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-future-threat-buyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Presumably if we had next season's season-ticket money we could pay the staff over the summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 So can we can safely say NO lowe coming back ? No .... Fry has NOT ruled that possibility out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 But midnight where? If it's an Australian based consortium we've got less than 6 hours of Monday to go, if Hawaiian based it's not even Monday yet. We need to stop with this senseless speculation as to what day it is until we know the identities of the bidders My point in answering a prev.comment was that this is a day to thing, ...and the "midnight comment " was a joke (Saint Donkey). I don't think you need to be a clairvoyant to figure out that with one match to go, already relegated and the money having run out - we have to expect a decision soon......and sooner rather than later. IF.. I was buying Saints (which sadly I can't ) I'd want a high-profile announcement (ala McMenemy/ Keegan deal 1980 - and not at the Potters Heron either!) Use the sympathetic media to bring in the new regime, while the season is still ongoing, and give players a chance to assess their futures. After Sunday the CCC season will be history and we'll be in League 1 - so hopefully a new owner in place will help everyone have a peaceful summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 As money is going to be tight, is it possible that new owners will want to take over AFTER the final game, thus saving them a few grand in payments to loanees and out of contract players. Or is that what these CVA things are all about? Would be nice if it is this week though, as Forest will be a massive party whataver the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 IF.. I was buying Saints (which sadly I can't ) I'd want a high-profile announcement (ala McMenemy/ Keegan deal 1980 - and not at the Potters Heron either!) Use the sympathetic media to bring in the new regime, while the season is still ongoing, and give players a chance to assess their futures. After Sunday the CCC season will be history and we'll be in League 1 - so hopefully a new owner in place will help everyone have a peaceful summer. I'd take a similar approach. I'd want players to be able to decide whether they see a future at Southampton before the end of the season and I'd want fans to go out on an optimistic note. We can then enjoy a summer of debate over who is coming and going, who CDAJFU and hopefully get a decent pre-season in with a new manager. By now I would have also teed up the person I would like to bring in as manager, with a view to them starting straight away. I'd be surprised if a serious consortium or individual buyer didn't do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 My point in answering a prev.comment was that this is a day to thing, ...and the "midnight comment " was a joke (Saint Donkey). As was my response - hence the winky smiley thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Does anyone know if any bookies are offering odds on who might buy the club? 5-1 on a consortium with Souness in it would be worth a punt IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 As was my response - hence the winky smiley thing OK Saints Donkey. I understand. I'm a bit low on humour this week....too much hay-fever medicine. ......and the sarcasm is in overdrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 No .... Fry has NOT ruled that possibility out Nor has Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Just been on TV that Tom Scott has denied he is involved with or without Lowe. Take that at face value as I do not see the point in making such a statement if within 5 days or so he does turn out to be one of the bidders. The statement said categorically he is not in cahoots with Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 so who are they....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 so who are they....... Whoever they are, you can be sure they will have a fit and proper person test carried out on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The Grauniad reckons we'll fold if we don't conclude a deal within 8 days: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/apr/27/southampton-future-threat-buyer Yeah, saw that before coming on here which made me pop in for a look. I've been too depressed to look before. I hope the FL show some common sense (hah!), but if a club of Saints' history can fold completely the whole pack of cards might come tumbling down: I can't see our debts being that much greater than many clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 with our fate (+\- 10points) already sealed, I would expect an announcement in the next few days. New owners will want to introduce themselves, and make the best of a bad season and give everyone a chance to meet them and get media coverage while the season is still unfinished. PLUS - a chance to watch the last game v. Forest to see their NEW team. I don't have access to names...but the likes of a " Souness consortium," or even " Hoddle consortium " wouldn't be a bad choice, IMHO both were "victims" of their encounters with Lowe (one way or another) and are , at least - " real football ". Hopefully they'll be no trace of the previous Board (with a few exceptions - Mary). Sooner the better and let's get on with the planning. Good for the club, fans and players to know what's happening ASAP. COYR !!!!!! Uncertainty as the whether we will get further fines for the alledged pitch invasion, non-cooperation/appeal may yet put buyers off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I hope and think that whoever it is that is going through the process of bidding will be taking a strategic view of this club and not being influenced by recent events. Anyone in their right minds will be thinking about transforming the club not maintaining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Wheres our so called rich fans only Leon Crouch seems to give a f**k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4323308.Mr_Jersey_not_in_the_running_to_buy_Saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4323308.Mr_Jersey_not_in_the_running_to_buy_Saints/ Hmm seem to have forgotten the money he made from selling CI Traders to Duke St Capital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Just been on TV that Tom Scott has denied he is involved with or without Lowe. Take that at face value as I do not see the point in making such a statement if within 5 days or so he does turn out to be one of the bidders. The statement said categorically he is not in cahoots with Lowe. The most interesting thing, to me anyway, about this is the fact he deemed it necessary to distance himself from Lowe. It seems that being linked to Lowe is not something successful people want. He could have just as easily not said anything and all this talk would have gone away once a deal with somebody else is complete. But he took the time to distance himself from Lowe and from buying Southampton. Either a clever buying tactic, or somebody in the press hassled him for a quote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tbh, I'm having massive doubts about a takeover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tbh, I'm having massive doubts about a takeover... Gonna be a long week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tomorrow? Either Virign or a consortium of 5? My dream, would be a Mr so loaded I do not know what to do with all this money, buy's Saints, with his his first appoinments being LM as Director of football and Keegan as head coach. That would give us a real buzz, we could tell all the banks to go forth and multiply; but in not so many words and get on with re-building the club. For any of those who have not read Mark Twain, he is quoted to have given the following definition of a Bank manager. "He is someone who gives you an umbrella when the sun is shining, however, as soon as it starts to rain he wants it back". That is so true and highlights exactly what happened to Saints, lets pray for the right result over the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tbh, I'm having massive doubts about a takeover... It's almost reassuring that things have gone quiet... it's hopefully a sign that things are being done properly. During takeover rumour season before, there were all sorts of 'in the know' comments and reports coming out of thin air. If things are being done properly and professionally, nobody involved should be talking to anybody else about it. So if something appears in the press or from somebody 'in the know' here on this forum, consider it B.S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tbh, I'm having massive doubts about a takeover... Well, if you're not convinced go and find another club in which to invest your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 My dream, would be a Mr so loaded I do not know what to do with all this money, buy's Saints, with his his first appoinments being LM as Director of football and Keegan as head coach. That would give us a real buzz, we could tell all the banks to go forth and multiply; but in not so many words and get on with re-building the club. For any of those who have not read Mark Twain, he is quoted to have given the following definition of a Bank manager. "He is someone who gives you an umbrella when the sun is shining, however, as soon as it starts to rain he wants it back". That is so true and highlights exactly what happened to Saints, lets pray for the right result over the next week or so. Dof + Keegan ... you are mad mate - LM would be interfering all over the place - Sorry its time for a CLEAN break and that means everybody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Dof + Keegan ... you are mad mate - LM would be interfering all over the place - Sorry its time for a CLEAN break and that means everybody... I have to agree... but I'd still keep LM around as a club ambassador or something similar. I don't want Keegan as manager either. Big name and to be respected for his playing career, but he's hardly achieved great success as a manager. I also think he would be out of the door as soon as a 'bigger' club came knocking should we achieve anything, which is exactly what we need to avoid if we are to rebuild! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 on Friday obviously ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I have been expecting a deal for the last 2 years, I'm not much more hopeful now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 It's almost reassuring that things have gone quiet... it's hopefully a sign that things are being done properly. During takeover rumour season before, there were all sorts of 'in the know' comments and reports coming out of thin air. If things are being done properly and professionally, nobody involved should be talking to anybody else about it. So if something appears in the press or from somebody 'in the know' here on this forum, consider it B.S `They dont wanna talk about it` Ties in with the Rod Stewart rumour then. So you are ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 My estimate is that we will hear something of real value within the next fortnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 `They dont wanna talk about it` Ties in with the Rod Stewart rumour then. So you are ITK. I'll tell you on Friday..... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Jeese I'll be glad when all this uncertainty is over, its bad for the health. Bad enough not knowing if we have been bought or not, but not knowing if we will exist or not in a few days is unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeShootsHeScores Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The title of this thread is somewhat misleading TBH. It suggests the poster knows something WILL happen this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Dof + Keegan ... you are mad mate - LM would be interfering all over the place - Sorry its time for a CLEAN break and that means everybody... Say what you like about Lawrie Frank. But there is no doubt in my mind that he would be a good figurehead for the club. PR is definitely his forte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 so if we are in danger of folding, which we truly are, and the only saviour to come forward was Lowe, would he be "accepted" back or would people prefer the club to disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The title of this thread is somewhat misleading TBH. It suggests the poster knows something WILL happen this week. He does.., he knows as sure as eggs are eggs that it will get dark at night. Surely you didn't click on here expecting an 'Exclusive' did you? C'mon now - how many real ITK'ers do you honestly think frequent this site eh....!!! But I take your point - we were both hooked by a very non-informative snippet really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The title of this thread is somewhat misleading TBH. It suggests the poster knows something WILL happen this week. I'm making a qualified judgement (from a biz/ PR´/ ownership perspective) and what's best for the club and in everyone's interest. So ...I think that we'll have an announcement before the weekend. I said in the first thread that I didn't have any inside / secret info. If I'm wrong, I'll come back and apologise to anyone who thinks I'm unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Dof + Keegan ... you are mad mate - LM would be interfering all over the place - Sorry its time for a CLEAN break and that means everybody... You have a point Franks cousin, however, It was LM that brought Keegan to Saints; on top of that say what you will about Keegan, but he took Newcastle, Fulham and Man City into the premiership; provided of course he has the money to do it with and would not recomend him if that fat cheque book was not their. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happiness stan Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I'm making a qualified judgement (from a biz/ PR´/ ownership perspective) and what's best for the club and in everyone's interest. So ...I think that we'll have an announcement before the weekend. I said in the first thread that I didn't have any inside / secret info. If I'm wrong, I'll come back and apologise to anyone who thinks I'm unrealistic. You mean you're guessing. I would like a takeover to happen this week too, and it would be nice to have it all sorted before the last game of the season. I don't really get why this is best for the club, other than as soon as possible is best for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 The most interesting thing, to me anyway, about this is the fact he deemed it necessary to distance himself from Lowe. It seems that being linked to Lowe is not something successful people want. Quite honestly even unsuccessful people with any sense would be best off not being linked to Lowe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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