NickG Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20695/Hearn_blasts_administration_cheats.aspx lets hope for 6 points from them then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Is, and always has been, an utter tool of a man. I notice, it says that Stockport will start on -10. Did that get changed from them taking the 10 point deduction before the end of the season then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Obviously knows nothing about our situation. Hope for 6 points against them. Our new league one rivals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/20695/Hearn_blasts_administration_cheats.aspx lets hope for 6 points from them then! He seems to have a problem with us for some reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Wouldn't it be funny if they went tits up next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Punishing a club for administration after those that caused it have left is wrong and no deterent at all. Former chairman aren't affected by a points deduction. Is it fair to put the son of a murderer that jumped bail in prison just so that you punish somebody for the crime All it does is punish the fans/players/staff of the club that are innocent. Hearn is clearly a prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Bizarre. Utterly bizarre. I suppose then, to him, any company that goes into administration has been "cheating." Pity you can't just press a button to Ignore bull-hockey like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Stockport took their 10 points last season so wrong on that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I hope we give his little, tin-pot, pikey East London club a good hiding next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 He's an arrogant so and so. There are plenty of examples especially when he appears on live Poker ( purely due to being well known) and invariably makes a prat of himself in the process. What a pillock !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I hope we give his little, tin-pot, pikey East London club a good hiding next season LOL I don't recall us ever losing to them albeit it is going back many years since we played in the same Division ( 77/78 I would imagine as a draw there in our penultimate game all but sealed promotion as did the 1-1 back in 65/66) So I have happy memories of Leyton Orient !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Aren't almost every club in the prem in huge debt and some spending beyond their means? Does he want every prem club relegated too? What a loon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 What makes me laugh is he rabbits on about buying players etc, the one thing i know is we gained no advantage on the pitch by going into administration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Leyton Orient?? Tiny little club......not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Obviously knows nothing about our situation. Hope for 6 points against them. Our new league one rivals! Yes, I'd expect sympathy if he really knew the effect Lowe has had on this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Small rubbish club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Most of the football league and PL would shut if he had his way then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Small rubbish club. Oh come on, we're not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 So has Barry Hearn never borrowed money in business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Let's give 'em hell next season then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Leyton who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Barry Hearn what a ******, what a ******. He's always having a go at someone and he isn't the straightest bloke in the world. A lot of LO fans are annoyed that all the money BH make's renting out areas of the ground doesn't go back into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 It's amazing that someone who should be pretty clued up on the running of a football club can be such a spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 It pleases me that ****ty little clubs like Orient hate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteforpedro Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Clubs that have 'cheated' in the last few seasons: Saints, Leeds , Luton etc. great deal of good it has done them... I dread to think where these clubs would be now if they hadn't 'cheated'. What this guy doesn't seem to realise is that Drug cheats enhance their performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Aren't almost every club in the prem in huge debt and some spending beyond their means? Does he want every prem club relegated too? What a loon. Thats what I was thinking how can he call us cheats when Manure are £700m in debt (unless i am mistaken) Pompey are £100m and many other top clubs are in just as much debt If we have been cheating then we are some of the worst cheats in the world, because you usually cheat to gain an advantage as far as I can tell our 'cheating' has left us in league 1 on -10, we have had the threat of ceasing to exist and played half of last season with out our supposedly top players and replaced a decent manager with the cheaper option. So where in that did we cheat to better ourselves? If anyone is to be punished it is the banks for lending so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 What a spastic there was no advantage in this for us. Hope he finds someone to translate that little outburst into Urdu and Punjabi so the locals around Brisbane Road can share the drift of it. Actually I have no gripe with Orient,afterall we always manage to win promotion there and the cup game in 1984 was one of the best booze trips I've been on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Bloody 'eck! If this is where we've got to by cheating, I dread to think where we'd be now if we'd played fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Many clubs spend money they don't have in order to chase promotion. The trouble is the only ones who get doubly punished are the ones who don't make it. The ones who spend the money they dont have and DO acheive promotion get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Businesses run on debt, generally. He's clearly a bitter little ****. If anything he should lobby for no points penalty as it increases the chances of much bigger clubs ending up in the same division as his tinpot outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 This is exactly the kind of spur we need to ensure we go to the matchroom next season and stuff these ****ney gobsh1tes 5-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Snooker loopy nuts is he..... If I'm not mistaken Barry hearn borrowed vast amounts of money to finance the snooker revolution all those years ago......luckily enough it paid off for him but it could have easily gone the other way. Barry hearn,just another name on my hitlist come the revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Many clubs spend money they don't have in order to chase promotion. The trouble is the only ones who get doubly punished are the ones who don't make it. The ones who spend the money they dont have and DO acheive promotion get away with it. Indeed, effectively if you cheat and win ... you get away with it as you are awarded with cash to pay off those that let you cheat.. like nearly every club in the prem... but if you cheat and lose yu shuld get screwed again -- Is BH really that fecking ignorant or is he just starting the mind games early ;-)? ****... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Wouldn't it be ironic to have to face them as our last game away, with a win promoting us and relegating them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 what a complete tool he is!! Comparing our situation with that of a drugs cheat!! c ock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 "They're running a business with money they don't have and buying players with money they haven't got. To my mind, that's cheating." He does have a point imo. This is what is wrong with all of the Premiership and half of the Championship. We have paid the penalty for overspending however, unlike others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Saint Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 What a ****..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 what a complete tool he is!! Comparing our situation with that of a drugs cheat!! c ock Presumably, by "drugs cheat", he means a sprinter on tranquilisers. That's the only way the analogy holds up in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Looking forward to Orient away this season Regards Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 f**k off and worry bout your own club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 "They're running a business with money they don't have and buying players with money they haven't got. To my mind, that's cheating." He does have a point imo. This is what is wrong with all of the Premiership and half of the Championship. We have paid the penalty for overspending however, unlike others. In order to not get relegated you have to spend a certain amount of money. Besides, it was our stadium debt which was the main problem which was perfectly manageable in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Obviously Barry Hearn is a short-arsed cocney t**t and we will take 6 points off his scabby little club next season BUT he has got a point. We gambled millions to buy players who might win promotion - the fact that Burley spent huge sums on laughable nonsense like Rasiak and Skacel just compounded our recklessness. We lived way beyond our means and we bought failure - double whammy. A lot of people are going to lose a lot of money as a result of having had enough faith in our club to give it mortgages, overdrafts and credit. None of us is going to lose a penny as a result of Saints troubles. I just don't buy this idea that people should be able to just walk away from their debts when the going gets tough, especially in our case, where all our problems are entirely of our own making. I agree with Hearn - we should by rights have gone into liquidation and faced the consequences .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Originally Posted by niceandfriendly Aren't almost every club in the prem in huge debt and some spending beyond their means? Does he want every prem club relegated too? What a loon. Thats what I was thinking how can he call us cheats when Manure are £700m in debt (unless i am mistaken) Pompey are £100m and many other top clubs are in just as much debt If we have been cheating then we are some of the worst cheats in the world, because you usually cheat to gain an advantage as far as I can tell our 'cheating' has left us in league 1 on -10, we have had the threat of ceasing to exist and played half of last season with out our supposedly top players and replaced a decent manager with the cheaper option. So where in that did we cheat to better ourselves? If anyone is to be punished it is the banks for lending so much. Hearn does have a small point but has failed to take into account the practical difficulties of what he is implying. You can easily argue the case that when we continued all that spending the previous season, we managed to stay up by virtually placing ourselves into administration for the following season. We did not know that completely until we found out we could not sell on the high earners or get enough of them off our books. It was not cheating but you can easily see how it could be viewed as such by prudently run clubs who live within their means. Just like the fly by night cowboys who go into administration to lose debt, then restart directly on another set of gullible public. The Football League have got this as near as damn it to a practical solution. Should we have avoided the -10 then that would be very valid. I do believe there should be a percentage limit you may be allowed to go into debt, based upon your assets and revenue. Not sure how workable this is but it would cover all the clubs and allow for the situation Hearn is trying to address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Love to get them first game of the season at their little shed and thump them 5-0. What an idiot that man is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Looking forward to Orient away this season Regards Morph Is this in anyway connected to our new investor Morph ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Punishing a club for administration after those that caused it have left is wrong and no deterent at all. Former chairman aren't affected by a points deduction. Is it fair to put the son of a murderer that jumped bail in prison just so that you punish somebody for the crime All it does is punish the fans/players/staff of the club that are innocent. Hearn is clearly a prat Well said. The people who commited the crime are no longer around to take the punishment. Perhaps the football league should somehow investigate if there is a way of punishing the individuals who run the clubs after they have buggered off! why should the new incumbants and the clubs supporters suffer for the mismanagement of the previous regime/regimes. That is why I really felt sorry for Luton last year, it was crazy that they were punished the way that they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Well said. The people who commited the crime are no longer around to take the punishment. Perhaps the football league should somehow investigate if there is a way of punishing the individuals who run the clubs after they have buggered off! why should the new incumbants and the clubs supporters suffer for the mismanagement of the previous regime/regimes. That is why I really felt sorry for Luton last year, it was crazy that they were punished the way that they were. Problem is you can't prove mismanagement. They could bar them from ever getting into a position of power at another football club I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Clubs that have 'cheated' in the last few seasons: Saints, Leeds , Luton etc. great deal of good it has done them... I dread to think where these clubs would be now if they hadn't 'cheated'. What this guy doesn't seem to realise is that Drug cheats enhance their performance Don't compare us to Leeds and Luton: they actually did cheat. Anyone familiar with our accounts would know that we have always run a balanced player sales/player purchases sheet; if anything, we've taken in more than we have spent that way. Our financial difficulties are due to building a stadium that would enable us to compete financially in the Prem, and then getting relegated a couple of seasons later. Between trying to pay for that stadium, for other Prem class facilities, being obliged to stand by player wages contracts made in the Prem that we could no longer afford in the CCC, and trying to maintain a team that could compete in the CCC, AND then getting hit by the recession which changed how our banks (mortgage and overdraft) viewed their relationship with us, we were f*cked without having done anything irresponsible, and certainly without cheating! This guy Hearns doesn't know what he's talking about. Ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 Love to get them first game of the season at their little shed and thump them 5-0. What an idiot that man is!! Was kinda hoping for 'Orient away' last game of season - good memories from years gone by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 31 May, 2009 Share Posted 31 May, 2009 I know we're not exactly in a great position to comment, but hey. I don't think we should boo-hoo over what Leyon Orient - Leyton Orient - say. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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