Master Bates Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 A RIVAL consortium says it has the cash in place to buy Saints should the Pinnacle bid dramatically fail. Dorset businessman Marc Jackson,who is fronting the bid – also revealed he had lined up a current international manager to lead the team. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4449183.Second_consortium_ready_to_buy_Saints/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 god please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 i wish he would **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 He really is an odious lying idiot. Why the Echo print his rubbish is beyond me. He needs to be sectioned under the Mental Health Act in my opinion. Muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I thought he had the best interests of the club in mind ? Destabilising the Pinnacle bid is NOT the best interests of the club. If he had said "no" to Fry during this alleged contact this week, maybe minds would have been a bit more focussed on completing the legalities of the Pinnacle takeover. I am starting to get irritated by Jackson. Why couldnt he keep his damned mouth shut for a few more days ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Another non-story from the Echo. What they fail to realise is that Fry has already said that ANY bidder would come up against this same problem, irrespective of who they are. If it is not resolved then the sale of the club will not be completed - whether the buyer is the richest man in the world or Mark Jackson. Thus, whether MJ has £10 billion and Arsene Wenger lined up to manager us is of absolutely no significance whatsoever; if the problem cannot be resolved, the sale cannot happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 (edited) Mj said once that it was not a question of him vs le tissier, that he would never do that it would just be a case of if the pinnacle bid collapses. I personally think that's bs. He would sell his grandma to get this club & his comments today are no help. I know for a fact some of his recent comments have not been true. National team manager lined up? The Andorra coach perhaps... The guy is a prize ***** & I wish he would just **** off. Edited 20 June, 2009 by doggface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I know for a fact some of his recent comments have not been true. National team manager lined up? The Andorra coach perhaps... The guy is a prize ***** & I wish he would just **** off. I have it on good authority from ketchup that it's Fabian Capello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I have it on good authority from ketchup that it's Fabian Capello. A relative of Fabio Capello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nothing wrong with this. If the Pinnacle bid doesn't come off, you'd want there to be another interested party to pick up the pieces. The guy doesn't deserve all this hate, he's just a broker act on the behalf of a party interested in buying the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Probably someone crap like Peter Reid! We want Pinnacle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I think i will email him and tell him to bog off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 God forsake that Pinnacle drops out, but where are the swiss consortium? Please no MJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I know some jump up and down when MJ is mentioned but really can't see anything wrong here, if we are to believe that his consortium exists with money then we have a contingent, would be interesting to know if the Echo contacted him or did he contact them ? lets just hope Pinnacle stay on track and see this through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 A RIVAL consortium says it has the cash in place to buy Saints should the Pinnacle bid dramatically fail. Dorset businessman Marc Jackson,who is fronting the bid – also revealed he had lined up a current international manager to lead the team. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4449183.Second_consortium_ready_to_buy_Saints/?ref=rss If another "bidder" is now allowed to bid, that in itself will be a travesty of justice, BECAUSE, they will know, right from the outset, that all they have to do is to AGREE to the Football Leagues "request" that they do not appeal against the 10 points My message to Mr Jackson is simple .... DONT BOTHER, YOU ARE NOT WANTED With a MLT led Takeover, St Mary's would have been full again Under Jackson, and his Chairman, it won't be It should be apparent to all that massive Sh*t Stirring has been going on behind the scenes to derail the Pinnacle Bid ....... and everybody on here should know by now who I think it is behind that To all those that shout me down I say .... Just wait and see Limpets are very hard to dislodge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nothing wrong with this. If the Pinnacle bid doesn't come off, you'd want there to be another interested party to pick up the pieces. The guy doesn't deserve all this hate, he's just a broker act on the behalf of a party interested in buying the club. It is WHO he represents that worries me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 It is WHO he represents that worries me Oh god - good morning SR - I am sure he doesnt represent HIM. You need to get over this - you aren't Dalek in other life are you cos the parallels with his Hoddle obsession are obvious : - ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I am sure he doesnt represent HIM.) But the question of who he represents may never be answered, fully, properly or something like that(see vid of Bornemouth takeover, available at http://www.whydididothatinterview.com/xerox) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Bunch of ungrateful t***s! How many of you cyberwarriors has done anything to try and secure the future of our club? People should be grateful that there are others who are prepared to step in and try to keep the club going IF Pinnacle goes horribly wrong! Question for you moaners and groaners........would you rather there was no Plan B, meaning there would be no club IF Pinnacle falls through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Get back to selling photocopiers and dreaming walter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Bunch of ungrateful t***s! How many of you cyberwarriors has done anything to try and secure the future of our club? People should be grateful that there are others who are prepared to step in and try to keep the club going IF Pinnacle goes horribly wrong! Question for you moaners and groaners........would you rather there was no Plan B, meaning there would be no club IF Pinnacle falls through? agreed but surely whoever the buyer is may be facing the same problems as pinnacle is with the FL, especially as we do not really know exactly what they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 20 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2009 A relative of Fabio Capello? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 As I understand it after trawling through the forums and press like everyone else for the last few weeks there are two further bids in addition to Mr no-money Jackson - a british one and a swiss one. I presume they do have the money and have shown proof of funds with their bids and I am sure if Pinnacle fall over one of them will take over pole position - particularly with the wages needing to be paid next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 As I understand it after trawling through the forums and press like everyone else for the last few weeks there are two further bids in addition to Mr no-money Jackson - a british one and a swiss one. I presume they do have the money and have shown proof of funds with their bids and I am sure if Pinnacle fall over one of them will take over pole position - particularly with the wages needing to be paid next week And of course they will waive their right to an appeal against the 10 points deduction will they ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 An international manager!? ****** has he! Unless its Burley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nothing wrong with this. If the Pinnacle bid doesn't come off, you'd want there to be another interested party to pick up the pieces. The guy doesn't deserve all this hate, he's just a broker act on the behalf of a party interested in buying the club. You are so very wrong - trust me Jackson is very bad news and is now getting in the way at a crucial time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Publicity whore or serious bidder? MLT and Pinnacle for me please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$$$ Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Bunch of ungrateful t***s! How many of you cyberwarriors has done anything to try and secure the future of our club? People should be grateful that there are others who are prepared to step in and try to keep the club going IF Pinnacle goes horribly wrong! Question for you moaners and groaners........would you rather there was no Plan B, meaning there would be no club IF Pinnacle falls through? :smt046 You are St David AICMFP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 At least we have Jackson ready to step in. If he pulled out and Swiss group dissapeared we'd have no club left to support Fair play to MJ for keeping funds there incase Pinnacles bid fails. As for current international manager isn't Peter Reid current Thailand manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Yes he's there to back us up if pinnacle fails but I can't see Le Tiss saying "that's the end of it, your turn". And does he honestly thinks fans would want a photocopier salesman and the manager of columbia rather than the club's biggest legened, "hundreds of millions of pounds" and Kevin Keegan?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Jackson is not second in line as there are others who are still around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Bunch of ungrateful t***s! How many of you cyberwarriors has done anything to try and secure the future of our club? People should be grateful that there are others who are prepared to step in and try to keep the club going IF Pinnacle goes horribly wrong! Question for you moaners and groaners........would you rather there was no Plan B, meaning there would be no club IF Pinnacle falls through? I've done everything an 18 year old on minimum wage CAN do, thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Yes he's there to back us up if pinnacle fails but I can't see Le Tiss saying "that's the end of it, your turn". And does he honestly thinks fans would want a photocopier salesman and the manager of columbia rather than the club's biggest legened, "hundreds of millions of pounds" and Kevin Keegan?! Who is to say that the money behind MJ is not large as well. Fans are good at scoffing but anybody to get into the postion he is at a bidding stage must have invested a fair amount to do so. If you recall MF started with 39 bids and narrowed it down. If MJ was all talk then he would have been weeded out earlier. MJ as far as Im concerned, if you are truly serious and do have the funds stay there (without hurting Pinnacle) we might need you.If you are all talk shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Jackson is very bad news and is now getting in the way at a crucial time. What exactly is he doing ? is he just trying to de-stabalise Pinnacle or something even more sinister ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nothing wrong with this. If the Pinnacle bid doesn't come off, you'd want there to be another interested party to pick up the pieces. The guy doesn't deserve all this hate, he's just a broker act on the behalf of a party interested in buying the club. He deserves all the hate and more i can assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nothing wrong with this. If the Pinnacle bid doesn't come off, you'd want there to be another interested party to pick up the pieces. The guy doesn't deserve all this hate, he's just a broker act on the behalf of a party interested in buying the club. No he's flipping not. He's a fantasist that should be told where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Who is to say that the money behind MJ is not large as well. Fans are good at scoffing but anybody to get into the postion he is at a bidding stage must have invested a fair amount to do so. If you recall MF started with 39 bids and narrowed it down. If MJ was all talk then he would have been weeded out earlier. MJ as far as Im concerned, if you are truly serious and do have the funds stay there (without hurting Pinnacle) we might need you.If you are all talk shame on you. Nick I am telling you now Jackson is just a fantasist - well-meaning maybe but just watch that interview again. His untimely intervention this weekend is potentially very harmful. There is no way he will ever deliver, he is all talk. He is a compulsive dabbler who forgets what he says or promises. Some of the stories I could tell about him would make your hair stand on end and I am really disturbed that with the Pinnacle offer now balanced on a knife edge this buffoon has re-entered the china shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Bunch of ungrateful t***s! How many of you cyberwarriors has done anything to try and secure the future of our club? People should be grateful that there are others who are prepared to step in and try to keep the club going IF Pinnacle goes horribly wrong! Question for you moaners and groaners........would you rather there was no Plan B, meaning there would be no club IF Pinnacle falls through? There is no Plan B regards wacko jacko. There will be no club unless there's someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Chill Follow the actual information and the timeline it has been released. Fry states he will contact the other bidders He contacts the other bidders They say EITHER Oh good here is our bid and it is more money than Pinnacle so go tell them to clear off OR they say - Pinnacle are in the driving seat, we do not wish to get in their way and we will not make a bid UNTIL you tell us in writing that their bid has been withdrawn Now READ what was said once more. He made a bid, BEFORE Pinnacle jumped in. Fry did what he SAID HE WOULD DO, and the reply is very specific as is the headline. No, he is not MAKING a bid. the BID that was made 3 weeks ago still stands on the table. The Echo read Fry's statement, they phone up MJ and he answers very clearly that they stand READY. It does NOT at any point mention any NEW bid at this time. For all ANYONE knows, the Pinnacle problem could hit ANYONE making a new bid, Jeez I know you guys think he is thick but c'mon give the moneyman some credit, he can read as well (and probably spells better than MJ) Doggface - you & Tony should be MUCH more worried about the Swiss, do NOT be fooled into looking the wrong way. I mentioned again yesterday that not agreeing was a dangerous risk. IF the Swiss (or Irish) decide they can offer 50 quid more than Tony then he is screwed, and blaming MJ may work to make people feel better on a forum but it won't help them get their deposit back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nick I am telling you now Jackson is just a fantasist - well-meaning maybe but just watch that interview again. His untimely intervention this weekend is potentially very harmful. There is no way he will ever deliver, he is all talk. He is a compulsive dabbler who forgets what he says or promises. Some of the stories I could tell about him would make your hair stand on end and I am really disturbed that with the Pinnacle offer now balanced on a knife edge this buffoon has re-entered the china shop. He's a publicity whore. Pinnacle are not on a knife edge Duncan. MLT will take this club over next week. We are just witnessing some FL/consortium brinkmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 dp, just to clarify pal - i have never met TL. wish i did then i might know exactly what is going on. the last reliable update i had was on weds. I just back them to the hilt as they clearly have the football clubs main interests at heart & some exciting plans. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proevosaints Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Two key points we're missing here. If anyone reads the bournemouth echo or takes an interest in bournemouth you will know a takeover was formally completed yesterday for the murray group. They were orginally not the preferred bidders and took the driving seat once the original consortium failed. The original consortium were accused of not having all the funds they boated of and its my understanding that they left a lot of empty promises. Its also my understanding that a certain Mr Jackson was involved in this. Now theres two ways you look at this. Either he has got genuine backers and they said hold on, pinnacle are struggling lets hold of bmth and wait for saints or they were just hoping one of the two clubs would be stupid enough to bite! Secondly pinnacles bid is hinging because they wont accept the leagues viewpoint. Now to be honest it seems like they have a very good case so theres no reason to back down, lets take the fight to the clearly incompetent football league who are in danger of becoming the new british speedway. Either we accept this or we have a new consortium come in who roll over and pander to the football league...i know which i'd prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 Nick I am telling you now Jackson is just a fantasist - well-meaning maybe but just watch that interview again. His untimely intervention this weekend is potentially very harmful. There is no way he will ever deliver, he is all talk. He is a compulsive dabbler who forgets what he says or promises. Some of the stories I could tell about him would make your hair stand on end and I am really disturbed that with the Pinnacle offer now balanced on a knife edge this buffoon has re-entered the china shop.Duncan I have no information that I could say you are wrong and so respect your opinion.I am desperate for the club to be alive for us to have something to argue/debate about.To me IF Pinnacle fail, we need someone to fill the void. If MJ is that group I cannot understand why we dont show some respect until we know if he definately a fantasist. I wish Clapham could give us a heads up (or anybody else who is qualified) how much it would have cost MJ's group to get to this stage. If its £1000 or less then it could be seen as a hobby and so be discounted if it would be in a 5 figure fee then I would think we should show a bit more slack. Iam meeting socially tonight with somebody who was very much involved with the Cherries when he was in the mix, i will ask him if MJ is a fantasist or was let down at the last minute. My only excuse/reason why MJ may have looked so vbad at that time was that he was floundering having been left holding the baby and so was trying to buy time while he tried to get someone else on board. As I say i respect what you say but will wish to give him some margin only as I can see little else to save us before -25 and what that would mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 He's a publicity whore. Pinnacle are not on a knife edge Duncan. MLT will take this club over next week. We are just witnessing some FL/consortium brinkmanship.Thats a relief Robbie, when did you speak to TL for him to tell you that. I was getting really worried unti l you posted that. What did TL tell you ?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I guess if we accept that there is money behind the Pinnacle bid without really knowing than we must accept that there is money behind MJ. However there are people on here who's opinion I trust and they think MJ is bad news. Pinnacle, MLT, KK seems so attractive we all want it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 In The Pink Marc Jackson claims hes a 'good friend' of the international manager that he wants brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 In The Pink Marc Jackson claims hes a 'good friend' of the international manager that he wants brought in. it could be a manager from International Freight services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 In The Pink Marc Jackson claims hes a 'good friend' of the international manager that he wants brought in. I'm officially a manager (who won Nick!) I'm international (ly based) Not sure of the last bit though, mate and advisor maybe but my ex wife would never concede that I'm in the "good" category (although Paris Hilton seemed quite happy when she went off to work this morning) Yippee - give me 200k a year on a 3 year contract and sack me after a day whoo hoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 It's actually a good thing we have more than one party interested in buying the club . While most on here want the Pinnacle bid to succeed (a point of view I happen to agree with) having a fall back option(s) may well come in handy if the front runner drops out . I see no good reason to insult the other groups just because we prefer MLT & co , I find that attitude both ungracious and unnecessary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 June, 2009 Share Posted 20 June, 2009 I'm officially a manager (who won Nick!) ! Yes you did win Phil and in a most gentlemanly way. No underhand methods used of course. Reminiscent of when Argentina beat Engand in a World Cup match when the 'hand of god' played a part, wheras the away team had the misfortune of facing the ' backhander of Dubai' and the rolling substitutions when nobody was watching routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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