thorpie the sinner Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Just got some petrol and caught back page of Echo! JPS is desperate to be the answer to our centre back problem!! Just waiting for a call! Would do for me if we can't get Jaidi.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Pardew should be straight on the phone this morning, would be great alongside Thomas in L1 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Liability in my opinion. I've never seen someone give away so many penalties. He only looked good because we'd become used to so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Here is the link. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4542968.JP_s__come_and_get_me__plea_to_Saints/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Great report, great quotes from JPS too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Better than Olly and Perry. Also looks like he could be cheap as he isnt even wanted anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 (edited) Liability in my opinion. I've never seen someone give away so many penalties. He only looked good because we'd become used to so bad. This is true , JPS is certainly prone to the occasional rash challenge which is hardly desirable in a defender - on the other hand apart from this his defending is top class . Worth the risk many would say . Look at the awful errors Rio Ferdinand and Gareth Barry made for England last night - however good they are they all make mistakes . Edited 13 August, 2009 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 We was so bad last year he probably had to make lots more last ditch challenges than he really wanted to, which meant he wasnt going to get all of them ...hopefully with a better team in front, he wont need to do any/many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Lets hope that AP reads the ECHO then : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Grute Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 In my opinion, no way is he better than Perry- gave away penalties for fun, got done by that Sheff U dude in the last minute at home- just was alot better than Lancashire, which I don't think is that difficult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I'd have him and Jaidi in the squad if possible. With those two, Perry and Thomas I think we've got decent cover. Anyone who thinks JPS is a liability clearly has never seen a game involving Lancashire, Jackobsson, Bernard, Davenport, Powell, Makin, Molyneux, Wotton, Kenton or Haijto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 He had too much to do on his own last year - he never had much support from the players around him and therefore took on too much responsibility and yes, in games like Sheff Utd was then done at the end of a game. With a decent team around him he would be one of the top five centre backs in League 1. I am absolutely sure of that. Don't forget, he would also be a pretty good bet to get about 5 goals a year from corners, steaming up from the back, taking free-kicks etc. I'd be chuffed to bits if we could sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Could do a lot worse than JPS & would be more than happy if that's the way Pardew wants to go. But lets wait and see what he does to solve the CB problem,so far the 3 transfers he's come out with have been excellent & he may well produce another gem or 2 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Very good player at this level and CCC would be a great signing no unknown quanity we know we would be getting a dominant centre back that can defend I thought he did a great job for us last season and will be very happy if we sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Very good player at this level and CCC would be a great signing no unknown quanity we know we would be getting a dominant centre back that can defend I thought he did a great job for us last season and will be very happy if we sign him Ditto plus he wants to play for us and will cost nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Very surprised saints have not made a move for him. I thought he was a very good player - a cross between a poor man's Killer & Claus I thought. As others have said he gave away a few poor penalties, but that would be my only complaint. Would be cheap and has a great attitude - there were not many of them around last year in a saints shirt. Pardew please sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 IMO he is better than ALL the centre backs we have at the club so if there is a chance of him coming here lets take it. Perry is a liability and Thomas is extremleyaverage. Lancashire will improve with games but lets loan him out to get those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 This is true , JPS is certainly prone to the occasional rash challenge which is hardly desirable in a defender - on the other hand apart from this his defending is top class . It's like saying Fred West was a good builder, just a pity he buried prostitutes under my patio. Giving away penalties is a cardinal sin in my opinion. How many did he concede (I think 4)? For a central defender in half a season that is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 He would have been player of the season last term if it wasn't for Kelvin. One of the only players that showed some real spirit imo. Better than the CB's we already have, sign him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 It's like saying Fred West was a good builder, just a pity he buried prostitutes under my patio. Giving away penalties is a cardinal sin in my opinion. How many did he concede (I think 4)? For a central defender in half a season that is shocking. Who gives a sh*t when we've got Davis saving them left, right and centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 It's like saying Fred West was a good builder, just a pity he buried prostitutes under my patio. Giving away penalties is a cardinal sin in my opinion. How many did he concede (I think 4)? For a central defender in half a season that is shocking. Very harsh and an opinion not many on here share it would seem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 No thanks jps did ok but nothing more. Jaidi, sodje and whitbread are better!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 IMO he is better than ALL the centre backs we have at the club so if there is a chance of him coming here lets take it. Perry is a liability and Thomas is extremleyaverage. Lancashire will improve with games but lets loan him out to get those games. I rate Thomas but it won't be long until he hurts himself again, even then I agree that JPS is a better defender. I would love to see him back here, sign him and Pele up for free and there is your 'spine' sorted. Although there is a chance I am remembering him through rose tinted specs, his free kick at Watford was one of the only highlights of last season. We went proper mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I'd have him and Jaidi in the squad if possible. With those two, Perry and Thomas I think we've got decent cover. Anyone who thinks JPS is a liability clearly has never seen a game involving Lancashire, Jackobsson, Bernard, Davenport, Powell, Makin, Molyneux, Wotton, Kenton or Haijto. Just one short of a full team there ! (Did the other one get sent off then ?) BTW, I agree with you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I'd have him and Jaidi in the squad if possible. With those two, Perry and Thomas I think we've got decent cover. Anyone who thinks JPS is a liability clearly has never seen a game involving Lancashire, Jackobsson, Bernard, Davenport, Powell, Makin, Molyneux, Wotton, Kenton or Haijto. lol FWIW I agree that he could be worth taking back as cover for Thomas & another new CB (Jaidi?). That gives four solid CB's with Perry and allows Lancashire some time to develop in the reserves or even go out on loan to L2 or the Blue Square to gain some experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 It's like saying Fred West was a good builder, just a pity he buried prostitutes under my patio. Giving away penalties is a cardinal sin in my opinion. How many did he concede (I think 4)? For a central defender in half a season that is shocking. So from this viewpoint he is certainly no worse that Thomas and lancashire who both give away pens for fun, and also has the added advantage that he scores at the other end, so just on that basis he is better. He was clearly a higher class than either of these two anyway, and giving pens away when playing in a **** defence with no cover is hardly surprising. You're entitled to your views, but you appear to be in a small minority. JPS would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Brining in JPS would be a good move - not the best but better than Lancashire and with Perry on the verge of drawing his pension and Thomas liable to break at any moment we need JPS and another centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 No thanks jps did ok but nothing more. Jaidi, sodje and whitbread are better!!!! would be fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 No thanks jps did ok but nothing more. Jaidi, sodje and whitbread are better!!!! Oh good, how many of them are we signing !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 JPS was quality when he came here regardless of giving away a few pens. We are also in league one now and he looked good for the ccc. Given he was a regular in the team it was clear he had something to offer. You can argue reasonably that he was "too clumsy" or that he was surrounded by too many bad players depending on where you stand on possibly signing him. If Pardew does go for him I'd rather back his judgement any day to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Just because he's played for Saints before, is not wanted by his current team and is desparately looking for work, are not really adequate reasons for signing JPS over any other CBs who might be available. I wouldn't put this in the 'exciting' category that Cortese and Pardew are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I am Sure JPS would be relatively cheap so has to be worth a one year contract , Hope somebody alerts AP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Just because he's played for Saints before, is not wanted by his current team and is desparately looking for work, are not really adequate reasons for signing JPS over any other CBs who might be available. I wouldn't put this in the 'exciting' category that Cortese and Pardew are looking for. It's because he played very well for saints before. He was easily our best outfield player last season and he was only here for half of it. I'd love to see him come back, especially as he has the desire to play and do well for us and will presumably cost next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Oh good, how many of them are we signing !? we've been offically linked with atleast one of these... Not like the jps paper talk. Just my opinion all three are obtainable imo and realistic. Jps is trying to find a job and using the echo to boost his hopes of a return who could blame him! But in my opinion he was nothing more than average who gave away too many penalties. Prefer one of the above and/or te nipper from Stockport. Crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 (edited) It's like saying Fred West was a good builder, just a pity he buried prostitutes under my patio. Giving away penalties is a cardinal sin in my opinion. How many did he concede (I think 4)? For a central defender in half a season that is shocking. Saints only consided three while he was here, Blackpool (A), Burnley (H) and Wolves (A). He was at fault for the Blackpool one with a clumsy tangle of a challenge and he impeded a Burnley player running into the box. Saga (I think) was at fault for the Wolves penalty. Not quite four but maybe you were thinking he was at fault for all the penalties we considered this year including the game he didn't play? He also scored two goals, one a cracker! I'm not saying he should be signed, if we have money to spend there are better options, if not, he may prove worthwhile ad interim. Edited 13 August, 2009 by Doctoroncall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 we've been offically linked with atleast one of these... Not like the jps paper talk. Just my opinion all three are obtainable imo and realistic. Jps is trying to find a job and using the echo to boost his hopes of a return who could blame him! But in my opinion he was nothing more than average who gave away too many penalties. Prefer one of the above and/or te nipper from Stockport. Crowds. I would still hope we could sign Jaidi and I can remember Sodje being mentioned though that may have been last season, time flies too quickly! If we could get those 2 then problem solved but don't think JPS is a bad option either. As I said above I'll trust Pardew's judgement, he's been Ok so far ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Saints only consided three while he was here, Blackpool (A), Burnley (H) and Wolves (A). He was at fault for the Blackpool one with a clumsy tangle of a challenge and he impeded a Burnley player running into the box. Saga (I think) was at fault for the Wolves penalty. Not quite four but maybe you were thinking he was at fault for all the penalties we considered this year including the game he didn't play? He also scored two goals, one a cracker! There you go, scored 2 goals, conceded 2 pens. Perfect balance ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I would still hope we could sign Jaidi and I can remember Sodje being mentioned though that may have been last season, time flies too quickly! If we could get those 2 then problem solved but don't think JPS is a bad option either. As I said above I'll trust Pardew's judgement, he's been Ok so far ! agreed I'll go with what ever AP decides abs support them 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 If he's so keen on returning why hasn't he got on a plane or ferry and asked for a trial at St Mary's. Kind of left it a bit late but surely he could have come over and made himself known in person. If he's waiting for an all expenses trip over he can surely forget it but if he came over in person, doubt if the boss would refuse him a trial. Sadly it sounds more like the Echo hard up for a story. We don't even know if the guys been training, ready to play, something the ECHO forgot to check about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madsent Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Saints only consided three while he was here, Blackpool (A), Burnley (H) and Wolves (A). He was at fault for the Blackpool one with a clumsy tangle of a challenge and he impeded a Burnley player running into the box. Saga (I think) was at fault for the Wolves penalty. Not quite four but maybe you were thinking he was at fault for all the penalties we considered this year including the game he didn't play? He also scored two goals, one a cracker! I'm not saying he should be signed, if we have money to spend there are better options, if not, he may prove worthwhile ad interim. Why do people rate defenders on the number of goals they score? Their most important role is to be able to defend properly. Goal-scoring defenders are a bonus. JPS was a liability in a lot of his later games and I'd prefer someone more reliable as a first choice centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 I thought we'd totally lost the chance to sign him up, if we miss out on this it will be CRIMINAL! I don't know if im being blinded by that epic free kick away to watford last season, but i'd be made up if he signed for us. Oh that free kick... I couldn't talk for days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Even if he wasn't the first choice on Pard's wishlist, he has to be worth a weeks trial at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 IMO he is better than ALL the centre backs we have at the club so if there is a chance of him coming here lets take it. Perry is a liability and Thomas is extremleyaverage. Lancashire will improve with games but lets loan him out to get those games. Agree completely. Get Ollie out as we did Mills last season. Look what it did for him. Vastly improved because he now knows he can do it and has shown it to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 He did pretty well earlier this year, he wants to be here and he'd be good in League one - him and Thomas would surely improve our resistance to crosses, etc. I am sure he would be relatively cheap on the wages and he certainly wouldn't make the squad any worse! I'd rather have him then an "OK, I'll come if you pay me enough" sort of player. We've had too many of those in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Even if he wasn't the first choice on Pard's wishlist, he has to be worth a weeks trial at least. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Why do people rate defenders on the number of goals they score? Their most important role is to be able to defend properly. Goal-scoring defenders are a bonus. JPS was a liability in a lot of his later games and I'd prefer someone more reliable as a first choice centre back. Who are these "people" you talk about? So far on this thread only you have brought up rating defenders by goals they score!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 Even if he wasn't the first choice on Pard's wishlist, he has to be worth a weeks trial at least. Not if AP has someone better lined up. He does keep on about getting in another player this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommi Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 WTF - I'm sure 90% of this forum have never played a game of football in their lives. JPS, although a 100%er and probably a very nice bloke should never in a million years be classed as a defender. I feel and sincerely hope we can do better, much better..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark`` Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 JSP would be good for the asmosphere. he was a favourite with the Fans at SMS. Got a cracking free kick on him. I would love to see him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 August, 2009 Share Posted 13 August, 2009 WTF - I'm sure 90% of this forum have never played a game of football in their lives. JPS, although a 100%er and probably a very nice bloke should never in a million years be classed as a defender. I feel and sincerely hope we can do better, much better..... Sorry? Why do people have this opinion of JPS? It's probably because you watched the 2 poor games he had....Charlton at home for one. He had more succesfull games that not tbf and at L1 level he'd be ok. Ok - so he may not be as good as/better than Jaidi/Whitbred...but do people not realise that they haven't actually signed for us??? So surley JPS will be an improvement on what we have at the moment! He'd be a good addition - i'd sign him + Jaidi if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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