landford.saint Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 After reading the thread on 'Portaloo' squad photo I find I am not the only one who finds this new generic club website very poor. Poorly laid out, badly updated, difficult to find things. Is it just me being old and senile and unable to cope with change? Or does anyone else out there feel it is not as good as the site it replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 After reading the thread on 'Portaloo' squad photo I find I am not the only one who finds this new generic club website very poor. Poorly laid out, badly updated, difficult to find things. Is it just me being old and senile and unable to cope with change? Or does anyone else out there feel it is not as good as the site it replaced. Yes agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incongruous Monk Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 The new-er website is truly awful. It's a terrible piece of design that gives more attention to ads than to content or anything else useful. It's woefully laid out, confusing, over-busy, technically dubious and generally a mess. As a software developer who has done some work with online sites I'd be ashamed and embarassed if this was my output. I appreciate there are probably good reasons why we've jumped on the generic standard bandwagon but the sooner we get off it the better. Any decent web design firm could produce a far better site in relatively little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 I think the old one was built around a Sky Sports template, because just like our current OS offering there was quite a few in the same style, layout, and navigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 12 October, 2009 Share Posted 12 October, 2009 I think the old one was built around a Sky Sports template, because just like our current OS offering there was quite a few in the same style, layout, and navigation. Nah I think a lot of clubs just use the same company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I tend not to read it to be honest! I click on the links through the discussion boards here. But then I guess I got too used to the OS publishing spin and lies under Lowe to ever take it seriously. Perhaps I should give it more of a chance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 It is by no means perfect but like so many websites it becomes much easier the more you use it and find your way around ! One added plus is that when you (occasionally) look at other FL clubs sites they become easier to use as well ! I did prefer the previous version but it became so tainted with Rupertesque propaganda that in a way I'm glad to see the back of it !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 The thing that really annoys me about the new site is that it's hopeless on mobile. The old site was never too bad and just before it vanished they had put in a mobile version that was excellent. That and the 'match facts' that have replaced the online text commentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Nah I think a lot of clubs just use the same company. They do look at Ipswich http://www.itfc.co.uk/page/Home/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 One criticism I'd have is it should be a lot simpler to buy tickets. Maybe it's just me but on the odd occassion I've needed to buy tickets online I seem to go round in circles trying to get there. There should be a big button on the home page flashing 'Buy Tickets Now'. The simpler the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 A decent search facility on the news archive would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 One criticism I'd have is it should be a lot simpler to buy tickets. Maybe it's just me but on the odd occassion I've needed to buy tickets online I seem to go round in circles trying to get there. There should be a big button on the home page flashing 'Buy Tickets Now'. The simpler the better. Um There is. On the main page there are 3 tabs 1. Speciall Offers. 2. TICKETS. 3. Mobile Zone. (saying that though it does not make buying tickets any better) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I dont like it, it is never kept up to date and find it hard to navigate around the site. I used to like it when you could click from the fixture list to buy tickets and I cant find this option anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Pretty much every team in the Football League uses the same company to produce and run their website - in fact it's the same company that brought us the distinctly "meh" coverage of Ukraine v England on Saturday. While the clubs themselves obviously have some element of control over the content, I suspect there are various contractual agreements in terms of shares of advertising revenue, etc. The only reason the club signed a deal with Perform (formerly Premium TV) was because it made sense financially, as the club didn't then have to employ people to maintain the technical side of things including SaintsTV, all the video archives, etc. No idea how long the contract lasts for, but I'd hope they'll move away from Perform again at the earliest possible opportunity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 As I said in the previous thread it is useless match days - when we are away at least, cant comment on home games cos I'm there......sometimes you dont get the team on there until the game has kicked off - the "match facts" bit is a waste of time, you may as well incorporate that in the match report. I also cant decide if the Echo is copying the website or vice versa. It was so much better when it was "in house"......surely someone at the club could take it back in and keep it updated. Hell i will do it for a salary of £20-25k......so if anyone at the club is reading this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I'd like to see them ditch this goddamnawful generic web site completely and get it back in-house or outsourced to a local company who would surely do a better job. This is what I posted on the other thread. It is a Football League Interactive web-site, based in London. I don't think any of the "journos" that work on it are employed or are even based at the club. The news is late, the stories are lacking quality and accuracy and it is full of bloody adverts! Surely, there's enough "talent" on this message board to do a much better job. I don't know how long the franchise contract runs for but maybe the mods ought to bid next time round? Maybe not....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Um There is. On the main page there are 3 tabs 1. Speciall Offers. 2. TICKETS. 3. Mobile Zone. (saying that though it does not make buying tickets any better) I've had another look and of course you are correct - but just little tabs. Just feel, as putting bums-on-seats is probably the most important thing for the club, it should be (as you said) made easier to buy the tickets, a 'kin big flashing button leading to easy access would be a help (particularly for us old gits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Whoever said it was useless on mobile wasn't wrong - I went on there using my iPhone yesterday to remind myself of who we'd added with squad numbers over 35 in the last few days and I couldn't scroll the Squad list down at all, so could only look at players with numbers from 1-15 ! I got over it being generic as soon as it was announced - at least it's not trying to force me onto IE8 like Hull's version does when you go to their club shop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 IE8's alright, to be fair... much more standards-compliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 IE8's alright, to be fair... much more standards-compliant Yes, but Hull City might want to consider that preventing anyone purchasing goods from their online shop during their presumably brief tenure in the Premier League UNLESS they upgrade to IE8 is probably a short term business plan more suited to a lifelong partnership with Microsoft than a desperate Premier League Little 4 member wringing every penny out of their days in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 The thing that really annoys me about the new site is that it's hopeless on mobile. The old site was never too bad and just before it vanished they had put in a mobile version that was excellent. That and the 'match facts' that have replaced the online text commentary. http://SOUTHAMPTON.WAP.COM is the site 'optimised for the mobile' Juts been there and it's a bit **** to be sure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I Notice that today the squad photo has now been updated. Although should of been done ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Perhaps someone was reading here, ... or did somebody email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 the website is appalling. i would look at the old one many times during the day until it became lowes mouthpiece. i have recently tried to use it again, but gave up after a minute or two as its just too hard to navigate and chock full of adverts and other useless things hiding anything interesting i now use the echo website for club info ahead of the OS, and i know im not the only one sort it out saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Also, the squad profile for Papa says he's on loan from 'Fiotina'. Never heard of them! Might be an abbreviation, such as Man Utd, but i've never heard it before.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croydon Saint Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Not that I want to defend the new site- as it's not great and it often has typos and inaccuracies- the club would struggle to get it away from Perform as the FLI deal is with the Football League themselves and as the clubs have opted into it- Perform are responsible for the maintenance of the website and the generation of online revenues (advertising, sponsorship, competitions etc), which are then split with the club on a rev share basis. So in short..we'd better get used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Guess we will have to speed up our return to the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Nothing will beat a web site run directly by the club if headed by a good writer. I'm afraid that this is similar to the beer supply. Contract agreed a long time ago which we can't get out of for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 I think the old one was built around a Sky Sports template, because just like our current OS offering there was quite a few in the same style, layout, and navigation. Yeah it was originally built by a Sky-owned company called Sports Internet Group (many years ago), who were then incorporated into the Sky New Media department. So it was basically a Sky template that was also used by a number of other clubs. I guess once we fell out of the Premiership, Sky couldn't care less about us anymore, so were happy for us to move to another supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 It is a standard Website used by lots of Clubs like Ipswich Stoke City and Nottm Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 Ive kinda got used to the new site layout now. I know where I need to go to find out the bits I want and it just about covers that. Would be nice if reserve news appeared on the Latest news page along with 1st team news though. old site had the main info appear (at some point) on the news page so I guess the Latest news page should do the same. If you dont know to go check the reserve pages you would have no idea they played or how they did. SaintsTV player has a fairly up to date comentary on match days that is still free and it updates much more than the old match day comentary on the old main site. Even get more updates on there now than we do on here. So IMO, where it has got better it has got much better but other area's still need some improvment. I like the idea of the Site team and all it involves being an in-house department allot better than the benifit we seem to get out of it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 13 October, 2009 Share Posted 13 October, 2009 check out the STAT LEADERS on the Team Photo Page - it lists Morgan as the leading red card player with errrr no red cards...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 14 October, 2009 Share Posted 14 October, 2009 The layout is not good, it's true, but it's nice to have up-to-date info on the academy. The nipper thinks it's great he can keep up with news of his brother's mate (aw, he's a bit star-struck!). That section on the old site still had pictures and stats from when Bale was a first-year scholar. So, yes, where it has got better, it has got much better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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