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I know it has been discussed on the forum (In it's various forms) a few times, but an interesting post on the takeover thread in the lounge, from a skate, who believes that end is nigh for pompey, based on some sort of land deal;

 

"your seeing the endgame, kaboul off in Jan, in all seriousness I think PFC is being wound down for a property deal on the ground and you will not see a PFC again ever in the current form."

 

So if that does happen and whatever form they are reborn as, would you want them to ground share with us?

 

NC and Libherr have said they want to ultimately run us as a self sustaining business, so financially it would obvioulsy make sense, but would the fans accept it?

 

For me it is a resounding NO.

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they can rot...the horrible club

 

will never forgive them for ruining Ted Bates min silence..I know it was a few but knuckle dragging type of support they have has no place in SMS...

 

the way they laughed at us this summer and danced around to the idea of the "Arab Billionaire" buying them...

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I know it has been discussed on the forum (In it's various forms) a few times, but an interesting post on the takeover thread in the lounge, from a skate, who believes that end is nigh for pompey, based on some sort of land deal;

 

"your seeing the endgame, kaboul off in Jan, in all seriousness I think PFC is being wound down for a property deal on the ground and you will not see a PFC again ever in the current form."

 

So if that does happen and whatever form they are reborn as, would you want them to ground share with us?

 

NC and Libherr have said they want to ultimately run us as a self sustaining business, so financially it would obvioulsy make sense, but would the fans accept it?

 

For me it is a resounding NO.

 

Agree a resounding No !

 

They can hop along to share with Brighton's new stadium!

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I know it has been discussed on the forum (In it's various forms) a few times, but an interesting post on the takeover thread in the lounge, from a skate, who believes that end is nigh for pompey, based on some sort of land deal;

 

"your seeing the endgame, kaboul off in Jan, in all seriousness I think PFC is being wound down for a property deal on the ground and you will not see a PFC again ever in the current form."

 

So if that does happen and whatever form they are reborn as, would you want them to ground share with us?

 

NC and Libherr have said they want to ultimately run us as a self sustaining business, so financially it would obvioulsy make sense, but would the fans accept it?

 

For me it is a resounding NO.

 

I wouldn't have a problem with it, being good neighbours, solidarity and all that (plus the extra income to us - better than expectiing Markus to put his hand in his pocket all the time).

 

But...

 

The sad, obsessive hatred that seems to come across from just about any Portsmouth fan that I've ever spoken to seems to go beyond simple rivalry and it almost seems that a lot of them would begrudge being done the favour.

 

I doubt they'll go under. If they get wound up then there will be someone to buy them even if they only have funds to stabilise the club.

 

Going back to groundshare, they'd probably be better looking at Brighton. It's probably as easy to get to for a lot of them, Brighton need the money more and they don't have the pride issue.

 

(and lets face it, the capacity at Falmer is more suitable to a smaller club...) ;)

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I wonder if Cortese would necessarily want to turn away a potentially valuable revenue stream - assuming the shiny new version of Pompey is one that pays its bills.

 

But - no. In any case, the police would never allow it.

 

Why do you think the police would never allow it? Because of Portsmouth fans behaviour or the potential for trouble with locals?

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The numbers simply wouldn't stack up, our stadium would come at a greater cost than the revenue they could possibly generate by the few that will follow them in whatever league they end up in, if they are unable to fill their shack in the premiership what chance will they have in league 1 or lower, H+W is a far more realistic option for them.

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I very much agree with Verbal; I very seriously doubt that Hampshire Police would allow a groundshare. Imagine the logistical nightmare they would have with 15,000 Pompey fans descending upon Southampton every other week; it would be a policing impossibility. And given Pompey's pathetic level of support, plus the fact that plenty would refuse to make St Mary's their home, the cost of policing offset against our cut of the ticket share would mean it probably wouldn't make financial sense for them either.

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Poortsmouth fans smashed up their own city after losing a game once, imagine what they'd do to ours..

 

Didn't that happen after they beat us in the EPL a few years back? The famous 'youngest kid to get a banning order' incident?

 

I remember wondering'if that's what they are like when they win, how would they be if we beat them?'

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The numbers simply wouldn't stack up, our stadium would come at a greater cost than the revenue they could possibly generate by the few that will follow them in whatever league they end up in, if they are unable to fill their shack in the premiership what chance will they have in league 1 or lower, H+W is a far more realistic option for them.

 

Indeed. If the figure to break even is about 17,000 fans at a game, we/they'd be losing money by the bucket load.

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They do seem to reflect what is rotten in the game, various dodgy crooks passing through the halls of Fratton with no legacy other than some short term success bought on the wealth of a few with no interest in building the club in a sustainable manner - they should be applauded

 

Makes me realise how lucky we currently are

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Didn't that happen after they beat us in the EPL a few years back? The famous 'youngest kid to get a banning order' incident?

 

I remember wondering'if that's what they are like when they win, how would they be if we beat them?'

 

Not sure jam, you're probably right actually. The kid was ten and he was found waving a plank of wood around at people wasn't he? Madness. It's another reason why we shouldn't ground share anyway!

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alan knights testimonial, we beat them 5-1 at fratton (what a night that was)...

 

they raided the pitch and was kept away from us by a row of mounted police...some ran around the back of the away stand and threw anything and everything over into the stand...

 

we were kept on for what seemed like hours, with dave beasant telling us all jokes..

 

it was horrific getting back to fratton station..

 

after the skates could not get into a tangle with us, they went on the rampage in pompey that night too..

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they can rot...the horrible club

 

will never forgive them for ruining Ted Bates min silence..I know it was a few but knuckle dragging type of support they have has no place in SMS...

 

the way they laughed at us this summer and danced around to the idea of the "Arab Billionaire" buying them...

 

Pretty much how I see it although I would like to see them survive in some form or another as I think our own football supporting experience would be poorer for not having a genuine rivallry let them start again in the non-league or something.

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So many reasons you could pick, heres one...

 

20k Pompey fans in Southampton 23 times a year would bring a huge annual policing bill that would wipe out a large chunk of any gate money. When the brought 3k for one off league games it was a nightmare to police so with 20k invading a city they hat on a regular basis the police just wouldn't do it and the local residents would hate it. Every other football team ground share is two teams in the same city. A city they both respect. Pompey fans don't like Southampton.

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they can rot...the horrible club

 

will never forgive them for ruining Ted Bates min silence..I know it was a few but knuckle dragging type of support they have has no place in SMS...

 

the way they laughed at us this summer and danced around to the idea of the "Arab Billionaire" buying them...

 

My heart sank when I realised that the minutes silence would be with them. Ted deserved better. Although it did seem that most of their fans were pretty ****ed off with the mongs who disrupted it.

 

I was also pretty ****ed of that some of ours shouted back.

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20k Pompey fans in Southampton 23 times a year would bring a huge annual policing bill that would wipe out a large chunk of any gate money. Many other reasons you could pick.

 

There wouldn't be 20k pompey fans.

 

 

Unless they were playing ManUre.

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20k Pompey fans in Southampton 23 times a year would bring a huge annual policing bill that would wipe out a large chunk of any gate money. Many other reasons you could pick.

 

major reason why it will not happen is public order nothing even to do with cost

the ob would just veto it

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Being as sensible and level headed as possible ... I'd say that if there was a straight choice between ultimate destruction for Portsmouth FC or them being allowed a way back by groundsharing with us, I'd wave them cheerio as they disappeared over the horizon, never to be seen again.

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My heart sank when I realised that the minutes silence would be with them. Ted deserved better. Although it did seem that most of their fans were pretty ****ed off with the mongs who disrupted it.

 

I was also pretty ****ed of that some of ours shouted back.

 

I was in the Itchen that game right next to the ponces. IMHO their own lot would have sorted out the booing themselves, but the problem was exacerbated by our lot shouting back. A very, very sad situation to respect the end of somebody's life.

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I know it has been discussed on the forum (In it's various forms) a few times, but an interesting post on the takeover thread in the lounge, from a skate, who believes that end is nigh for pompey, based on some sort of land deal;

 

"your seeing the endgame, kaboul off in Jan, in all seriousness I think PFC is being wound down for a property deal on the ground and you will not see a PFC again ever in the current form."

 

So if that does happen and whatever form they are reborn as, would you want them to ground share with us?

 

NC and Libherr have said they want to ultimately run us as a self sustaining business, so financially it would obvioulsy make sense, but would the fans accept it?

 

For me it is a resounding NO.

 

No, no and no again!

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alan knights testimonial, we beat them 5-1 at fratton (what a night that was)...

 

they raided the pitch and was kept away from us by a row of mounted police...some ran around the back of the away stand and threw anything and everything over into the stand...

 

we were kept on for what seemed like hours, with dave beasant telling us all jokes..

 

it was horrific getting back to fratton station..

 

after the skates could not get into a tangle with us, they went on the rampage in pompey that night too..

 

qute a larf that day. Took a mate and his girlfriend to their first ever match. Not sure they ever went again.

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