If Stern John features tmrw, what reaction he is likely to get?

[shurlock]

Recognition for keeping us up/deferring relegation for a year and being treated like s**t under Lowe? Water under the bridge and all that.

 

Or vooed for his summer footdragging and not wanting to be part of the leibherr revolution, even though Pards seemed to prefer him over Rasiak or Saga?

 

Or utter indifference as the c*ck keane gets all the stick?

[Chris Larkin]

Surely he has to get a good reception? It was his goals that kept us up in 07/08, he's the only Saints player ever to have a competitive hat-trick at SMS, he scored quite a bit whenever he played, and seemed a reasonable human being off the field to boot.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Keane hates us, and so he deserves and will no doubt recieve a fair bit of abuse.

[Nadia Sllim]

Stern should just be ignored.

[Badger]

Never particularly liked Ipswich but am now fairly indifferent to them as a club.Thoroughly detest Keane though, an utter 'dog turd'.

 

As for Stern John I've no reason to boo the bloke at all.A saviour in the first season and after his treatment the folowing year can't blame him for wanting a fresh start elsewhere.

[Granadino]

he's the only Saints player ever to have a competitive hat-trick at SMS

Really? I'm sure I remember Beatts getting one v Fulham, and although some might say the game wasn't too competitive, it technically was, didn't ormerod get one v Tranmere in the League Cup?

[sussexsaint]

I'd like to think he won't get booed, but I expect he will. He's moved on and so have we; He made the wrong choice and he will have to live with that. That is punishment enough

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

I've got no problem with John, it's Keane who I want abuse aimed at. Can't stand the guy, he's had a pop at us at every possible opportunity.

[Painswick Saint]

Stern John was a good player for us. I will never forget his goals in the last match of the season against Sheffiled United, that kept us up. Was poorly treated by the Lowe regime the following year. Deserves a bit of respect IMHO

 

As for Keane, I will also never forget his taunting of the Saints fans when we were relegated , again the last match of the season, having just been beaten by ManU. Keep the abuse for him me thinks

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I see absolutely no reason why any thinking Saints fan would want to boo SJ , after all he didn't actually 'walk out on us' did he - the record shows he was out of contract and hence a free agent . I personally will never forget his superb match winning performance against Sheffield Utd in the final game of the 07/08 season .

[doggface]

stern deserves a good reception

[rooney]

Stern was ok did his job for us, nothing less and nothing more. Whilst AP was upset in the way he left us I am sure we can all forget that now. After all we managed to get Rickie Lambert and I know who I would rather have. We can acknowledge Stern but not go overboard.

[bungle]

he's the only Saints player ever to have a competitive hat-trick at SMS

 

How have you made this up? Here's one other, for starters: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=435650

[benjamsandwich28]

How have you made this up? Here's one other, for starters: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=435650

 

Neil Danns scored in that game too, did you know we're signing him?

[Arizona]

He was good in his first season, but I don't like him for the way he acted in summer. We all assumed he had gone, then he turns up at training saying he wants to earn a new contract. Fair enough. Then as soon as he gets a decent offer from a CCC club he is off and slating Saints for taking too long to offer him a deal. He knew we were in the middle of a take over at the time and he may have to wait to get a contract, he was just using us to get fit whilst he found a new club.

[Andy_Porter]

Lazy player who scored a few goals.

 

Never did understand why he was idolised and Rasiak was hated when they both done exactly the same on a football pitch.

[saint_stevo]

should be applauded for keeping us up the season before we eventually fell through

[eelpie]

Surely he has to get a good reception? It was his goals that kept us up in 07/08, he's the only Saints player ever to have a competitive hat-trick at SMS, he scored quite a bit whenever he played, and seemed a reasonable human being off the field to boot.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Keane hates us, and so he deserves and will no doubt recieve a fair bit of abuse.

 

yep. Love Stern. Hate Keane

Stern could have (would have imo) become a Saints legend had L*** not shipped him out.

He should be given a good reception.

Keane should be given a rough reception.

[saint si]

How have you made this up? Here's one other, for starters: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=435650

 

Surman got one against Barnsley too.

[saint_ben]

 

Dexter Blackstock also hit a competitive hatrick as well so u can add him to the list of ormerod & beats

[eelpie]

He was good in his first season, but I don't like him for the way he acted in summer. We all assumed he had gone, then he turns up at training saying he wants to earn a new contract. Fair enough. Then as soon as he gets a decent offer from a CCC club he is off and slating Saints for taking too long to offer him a deal. He knew we were in the middle of a take over at the time and he may have to wait to get a contract, he was just using us to get fit whilst he found a new club.

 

He was still on contact and back from loan. We were still paying him. He was entitled to use our training facilities like any other Saints player.

The whole team were up for grabs at that awful time and he can't be blamed for feeling frustrated with the situation. The takeover was not anywhere near sorted and likely not to happen. When the ship is sinking you don't say no to the lifeboat.

[RedAndWhite91]

yep. Love Stern. Hate Keane

Stern could have (would have imo) become a Saints legend had L*** not shipped him out.

He should be given a good reception.

Keane should be given a rough reception.

 

I agree with this, spot on.

[Arizona]

He was still on contact and back from loan. We were still paying him. He was entitled to use our training facilities like any other Saints player.

The whole team were up for grabs at that awful time and he can't be blamed for feeling frustrated with the situation. The takeover was not anywhere near sorted and likely not to happen. When the ship is sinking you don't say no to the lifeboat.

 

It was the lying that bugged me about it. Saying he wanted to earn a new contract, yet didn't even wait to hear our offer and blamed us for taking too long. If he'd said, "I am here to get fit for next season, I may stay with Saints, but I am willing to listen to other offers" that would have been fine.

[Dan Johnson]

A journeymen who done a good job for us, will get a small ripple from me... nothing more

[Saints67]

Always made me laugh as he was always last by a long time out onto the pitch to do the pre-match warm up. I bet he's last out when Ipswich run out tomorrow.

[Chez]

laziest player I have ever seen in a Saints shirt ever. I might point that out to him, on the other hand why even acknowledge him after the way he ****ed us about in the summer. Good riddance.

[Victor]

Have a certain grudging admiration for Keane - he does nasty with style, as opposed to the likes of Davies, Ferguson etc..

[alpine_saint]

Ignore him. He shat on us last summer, but kept us up the year before.

 

Save the oppobrium for Royston.

[Thedelldays]

why boo him...he did a great job for us

[TBone-Tone]

I will certainly be putting my hands together and applauding him on his efforts in a Saints shirt. We were certainly a better team with him in it.

 

And who can forget the Sheffield United game.

[oxfordshire_saint]

He deserves some recognition for his goals, but the idiots will boo him and he'll probably shut them up by scoring.

 

Wouldn't expect him to get a raptous applause, but certainly doesn't deserve a booing.

[The9]

I suspect he'll get abuse, because the only people bothered enough to make a noise about it will be the mongtards at the back of the Northam, and they mostly do abuse.

 

Now why that kind of reaction wasn't offered to Richard "Skate for 5 years but so bad they loaned him out loads" Duffy the other week, only the thickies can tell you.

 

I mean I couldn't tell you the first thing about Barnard, but I know an ex-Skate when I see one...

[Burnsie]

How have you made this up? Here's one other, for starters: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=435650

 

What an awful Saints line-up... I'd fancy today's team to take that lot down

[The9]

How have you made this up? Here's one other, for starters: http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=435650

 

Hah, was that the game when you stayed in Southampton overnight and then got a 5am train to Aberystwyth ?

[The9]

What an awful Saints line-up... I'd fancy today's team to take that lot down

 

I wouldn't, despite the inclusion of Mikael Bloody Nilsson.

[sperm_john]

please leave my sterny alone tomoz boysh = (

[St Marco]

Let's hope not because can see him scoring if we boo him. We should know all to well that he does jack **** for 80mins but 1min he can create a goal from nothing.

 

Plus it was the mong regime of last year who treated him bad, let's hope he doesn't feel like he needs to proove something by playing well.

[September Saint]

He deserves some recognition for his goals, but the idiots will boo him and he'll probably shut them up by scoring.

 

Wouldn't expect him to get a raptous applause, but certainly doesn't deserve a booing.

Totally Agree

Why do we always have to Boo ex-players

Reserve that for the very few who really deserve it

[Lord Duckhunter]

Have a certain grudging admiration for Keane - he does nasty with style, as opposed to the likes of Davies, Ferguson etc..

 

I agree, hated him as a player, but as a Manager he's talked a lot of common sense. He's great copy and doesn't suck up to anyone.I once met his brother on holiday in Spain, seemed like quite a decent bloke.

[SNSUN]

He came, he did a job, he left. He's neither a hero or villain. If anything, without him keeping us up, we could've been in League Two this year had we gone into admin in League One.

 

He'll a warm round of applause from me, but that's it.

[southamptonfclegend]

I'll boo the c*nt! he f*cking said he wanted to stay offered him a really good contract and then shoved it back and our faces and went to Palace... C*NT

[Toadhall Saint]

As all ex Saints - Southampton reject, Southampton reject, hello, hello. Repeat until bored or no one else joins in!

[Thedelldays]

the utter mongs that prowl the northam will boo him....they will have no idea why either

[Toadhall Saint]

the utter mongs that prowl the northam will boo him....they will have no idea why either

 

You do like a good generalisation don't you.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

It was the lying that bugged me about it. Saying he wanted to earn a new contract, yet didn't even wait to hear our offer and blamed us for taking too long. If he'd said, "I am here to get fit for next season, I may stay with Saints, but I am willing to listen to other offers" that would have been fine.

 

Where you privy to all the negotiations between the player and the club ?

 

If (as I suspect) you are not then accusing SJ of 'lying' is a very serious accusation , you better produce some convincing evidence or withdrawn the claim .

[Block 5]

Stern's 3rd against Hull a couple of years back is one of the best I've ever seen.

[Arizona]

Where you privy to all the negotiations between the player and the club ?

 

If (as I suspect) you are not then accusing SJ of 'lying' is a very serious accusation , you better produce some convincing evidence or withdrawn the claim .

 

3rd July 2009. Stern John, now 3 days out of contract returns to training at Staplewood. John claimed he was keen to impress Wotte and was enjoying being back at the club.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1712371,00.html

 

29th July 2009. Stern John turns down a "generous new offer" of a 2 year contract.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1736930,00.html

 

Perhaps the OS is lying and we actually offered John peanuts, in accordance with our recent financial drought.

 

John then criticises Saints for "dragging their heels" in offering him a new deal

 

http://www.southlondonpress.co.uk/tn/Sport.cfm?id=30544&headline=Stern%20John%20hits%20back%20at%20Saints%20boss%20Pardew

[Andy_Porter]

I was a bit upset at the time but Stern John not signing done us a massive favour.

 

Better off without the lazy ****er. Much rather have Lambert, Connolly and Waigo.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Please, please nobody boo the guy - he's bound to score if that happens. Keep him sweet and he'll relax and get lazy.

 

I will be ignoring him - he moved on and so have we. Abuse for Keane though is well-deserved.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

3rd July 2009. Stern John, now 3 days out of contract returns to training at Staplewood. John claimed he was keen to impress Wotte and was enjoying being back at the club.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1712371,00.html

 

29th July 2009. Stern John turns down a "generous new offer" of a 2 year contract.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1736930,00.html

 

Perhaps the OS is lying and we actually offered John peanuts, in accordance with our recent financial drought.

 

I asked for some specific evidence that SJ had lied and the forum will note that none is on offer here . Again you don't know what went on behind the scenes and to call a player a 'liar' based on a mere supposition I find contemptible .

 

There are always two sides to every argument and you Sir seem to be only interested in placing the worst possible interpretation on SJ's behaviour for some reason . It seems to me the player almost certainly came back here with a genuine view to negotiating a new contract (I see no quote from SJ or SFC saying he'd made any final commitment to signing a contract) but the two parties could not reach an amicable agreement at the of the day - that happens all the time in football/business/life .

 

I''ve been a member of this forum for 3 years now and I've never felt the need to accuse a Saints player of being a cheat or a liar , pity you can't say the same .

[Arizona]

I asked for some specific evidence that SJ had lied and the forum will note that none is on offer here . Again you don't know what went on behind the scenes and to call a player a 'liar' based on a mere supposition I find contemptible .

 

There are always two sides to every argument and you Sir seem to be only interested in placing the worst possible interpretation on SJ's behaviour for some reason . It seems to me the player almost certainly came back here with a genuine view to negotiating a new contract (I see no quote from SJ or SFC saying he'd made any final commitment to signing a contract) but the two parties could not reach an amicable agreement at the of the day - that happens all the time in football/business/life .

 

I''ve been a member of this forum for 3 years now and I've never felt the need to accuse a Saints player of being a cheat or a liar , pity you can't say the same .

 

 

Okay, I'll rephrase my post. There are several options as to what could have happened:

 

1) John was telling the complete truth. He came back with every intention of getting a new deal. However the 2 year deal offered by billionaire Markus Liebherr was worth pittance. Bankrupt Palace offered him much better terms on a one year contract.

 

2) John was telling the complete truth. He came back with every intention of getting a new deal. However he hadn't anticipatied a multi million pound take over deal, the appointment of a new coach, the coach assesing the squad, deciding who he wanted to keep and offering them a new contract; might take a while. He was expecting to be offered a contract the day after the takeover and left because of the time it took.

 

3) John was telling the complete truth. He came back with every intention of getting a new deal. However he wasn't anticipating Saints playing in League 1 next season. He thought the FA was run eniterly by Saints fans and that they would reinstate Saints into the Championship. He was shocked when Saints weren't reinstated into the Championship and left for a higher League.

 

4) John never had any intention of signing for Saints and was just using us to get fit until a better option came up. When he said he wanted to earn a new deal he didn't actually mean it... sure there is a word for that.

 

To put it simply, John came back looking for a contract when we were in admin. Then the absolute best thing imaginable in terms of money and the clubs security and future happens in Markus Liebherr. Then John leaves claiming we couldn't meet his demands. That doesn't stack up.