The 'Good Luck Matt Patterson' Thread

[Colinjb]

As implied.

 

I hope he does well for Southend, it's a shame he had to go as part of the Lee Barnard deal but it seems to be best for both parties, he will play more there and develop quicker then he would have done here.

 

He always seemed to give his all for us and should have an extremely promising career ahead of him, I will never forget his goal against Millwall in the first game of the Leibherr era.

 

All the best chap.

[RedAndWhite91]

One of the first things I thought when I read the OS article. I liked Paterson as a player, and I hope he does well. Good luck.

[Panda]

Is this confirmed? I can't see it on the OS statement.

[RedAndWhite91]

Is this confirmed? I can't see it on the OS statement.

 

"Saints Academy graduate Matthew Paterson has moved in the other direction following Barnard's arrival, signing a permanent deal with the Roots Hall outfit."

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1940765,00.html

[Tac-tics]

I have it on good authority, he is'nt to happy to be leaving.

[Saints67]

Good luck to the lad. Could be the sort of player like Andy Carroll at Newcastle who is a right handful to play against.

Edited 22 January, 2010 by Saints67

[WESTIE SFC]

Good luck to him, always thought after his goal against Ipswich last season we might have something special here, Southend are a good little club for him to ply his trade, Always liked him when ever he played!

Hope he pushes Southend back up to the championship in the coming seasons!

[OldNick]

I also believe he will, given time develop into a decent footballer. When he learns to be composed he will be a right handful to defences. Good luck and I do hope we have a sell on clause.

[Matthew Le God]

According to Southend OS Paterson was a...

 

a separate deal United have secured the services of Southampton striker Matt Paterson on a free transfer.

 

 

Paterson has moved to Roots Hall on a two-and-a-half year deal with an option of a further year.

 

So it was NOT a swap deal. Very likely a future package arranged with high % sell on clause as he went for free.

[S-Clarke]

I have it on good authority, he is'nt to happy to be leaving.

 

he needed the move though, he strikes me as a lad that is happy to just carry on without change (he refused loan deals earlier) - but IMO he needs this change to kick-start his career.

 

i'm sure he'll turn out to be a good player - it's a shame it isn't a loan deal, but never mind.

 

i wish him all the best - i'm sure he'll score goals at this level.

[Minty]

I have it on good authority, he is'nt to happy to be leaving.

 

That's not surprising, and in many respects is good to hear. If anyone was ever happy to leave Saints, or in other words, didn't necessarily want to be here, then you would have to doubt their commitment.

 

Unfortunately, AP has decisions to make like this and if he feels he doesn't have a future here then all Matt can do is get his head down, work hard, score goals, and prove AP wrong. I'm also completely certain that AP would like nothing more than for him to do so.

 

But that's football, and I certainly wish him well, and maybe if he does progress well we will see him back here.

[brianoneils slidingtackle]

I hope he has a very successful career, and comes back to Saints when he can...cheers

[doddisalegend]

Watch him score a hatrick against us next time we play Southend now. To be honest I'm not to sad to see him go don't think he was in with a chance here. Didn't look to great the few times I saw him (which I'll admit wasn't much) but others seem to rate him.

 

Good luck to him

[This Charming Man]

Good riddance, he was useless.

[Rebel]

I think it was a mistake to let Paterson go. Lets hope it was just on loan to get some first team experience.

 

He has the potential to be a good striker - just needs the playing time and to develop - and the coaching.

 

Overall I think will regret letting him leave in the long run.

 

And he really wanted to play for Saints!

[S-Clarke]

I think it was a mistake to let Paterson go. Lets hope it was just on loan to get some first team experience.

 

He has the potential to be a good striker - just needs the playing time and to develop - and the coaching.

 

Overall I think will regret letting him leave in the long run.

 

And he really wanted to play for Saints!

 

it's not a loan, he moved on a free transfer.

[Disco]

The best of luck to Matt will always remember his goal at Ipswich last season. Hope he gets on alright at Southend.

[alpine_saint]

Good luck to Matt. Scored our first competitive goal of the new era. I wish him all the best.

[Chez]

Personally I think this is an error as every time I have seen the lad (apart from two games) he has looked decent. Giving him away for free is absolute madness in my book. Even if it is part of the Barnard deal it is only going to be £50k. Far too low in my book.

 

I suppose Pardew sees him every day so knows better than I, but I just wonder if having to play against Jardi in training every day has made him look bad.

 

I wonder what other players Pardew has let go during his management career. Perhaps its not long enough to really see if he discarded a few gems.

 

best of luck to the lad. I'll be following his progress and comparing it closely with Barnard who I know nothing about.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Good luck - buy him back in a few years if he reaches potential

[Channon's Sideburns]

Good luck Matt.

[Saint_Ash]

Good riddance, he was useless.

 

:smt043Proper LOL!

 

Didn't really do much for us and was still young, Pardew has to make tough choices and if we want to get promoted to the top league asap then we can't sit around and wait for (maybe) a decent talent to come good. With Barnard playing now we have two 20+ goals a season strikers on our books.

 

Excellent business.

[Pugwash]

Good luck to the lad, he's got the talent to improve quite a bit. He might feel uncomfortable with the move, but getting out of his comfort zone will help him round out as an individual.

[sfcjmcsfc16]

patterson is **** so not dissapointed in any way, Bye bye

[RedAndWhite91]

patterson is **** so not dissapointed in any way, Bye bye

 

Ever heard of ability/potential?

[Ash]

I suppose Pardew sees him every day so knows better than I, but I just wonder if having to play against Jardi in training every day has made him look bad.

It's not just the fact that Pardew sees him in training which makes him know better than you. He is a professional football manager you know.

[Cabrone]

Shame to see him go as he looked promising but chuffed to bits to get Barnard who will give Lambert and Connolly serious competition for places.

[eurosaint]

Personally I think this is an error as every time I have seen the lad (apart from two games) he has looked decent. Giving him away for free is absolute madness in my book. Even if it is part of the Barnard deal it is only going to be £50k. Far too low in my book.

 

I suppose Pardew sees him every day so knows better than I, but I just wonder if having to play against Jardi in training every day has made him look bad.

 

I wonder what other players Pardew has let go during his management career. Perhaps its not long enough to really see if he discarded a few gems.

 

best of luck to the lad. I'll be following his progress and comparing it closely with Barnard who I know nothing about.

 

I guess that if they could have got money for him then they would have ! Cortese doesn't strike me as a philanthropist and no doubt MP was touted around along with many other fringe members of the squad !

It's all about the matket, you get what you can, when you can !!

Edited 22 January, 2010 by eurosaint
MARKET, not matket !

[This Charming Man]

Ever heard of ability/potential?

 

Yes and he was lacking in both departments.

 

He worked hard, tried his best but his best wasn't good enough. Poor touch and poor in front of goal, he was one of those you could see was never going to make it.

[Tac-tics]

patterson is **** so not dissapointed in any way, Bye bye

 

Good riddance, he was useless.

 

mongs.

[croydonsaint]

I think this is a great move for Matt and Southend. Will watch with interest, but think he will do well. Come on Matt 2 years to prove you are a top striker and then hopefully a move up the leagues. Good luck Matt and Southend!

[Minty]

Yes and he was lacking in both departments.

 

He worked hard, tried his best but his best wasn't good enough. Poor touch and poor in front of goal, he was one of those you could see was never going to make it.

 

*You* think *you* could see, whereas clearly plenty of other people disagree.

 

Bearing in mind potential is nigh on impossible to judge to us who only see him in very short spells, and not playing every week.

 

I really wouldn't try to claim that you KNOW he won't make it, because history is littered with examples where managers have got it wrong, let alone fans.

 

You don't rate him, or think he has potential, that's fair enough, but personally, I think to judge him as you have done, at his age, is way too harsh IMO.

 

Only time will tell of course.

[saint_stevo]

Isn't it Paterson?

[Tac-tics]

Isn't it Paterson?

 

You can call him Susan if you like.

[St_Tel49]

Personally I think this is an error as every time I have seen the lad (apart from two games) he has looked decent. Giving him away for free is absolute madness in my book. Even if it is part of the Barnard deal it is only going to be £50k. Far too low in my book.

 

I suppose Pardew sees him every day so knows better than I, but I just wonder if having to play against Jardi in training every day has made him look bad.

 

I wonder what other players Pardew has let go during his management career. Perhaps its not long enough to really see if he discarded a few gems.

 

best of luck to the lad. I'll be following his progress and comparing it closely with Barnard who I know nothing about.

 

+ 1

[Durleyfos]

It's not just the fact that Pardew sees him in training which makes him know better than you. He is a professional football manager you know.

 

There's plenty of those on here, don't you know!

[callysaint76]

He is never going to make it, one of our worst academy prospects and thank god we got rid of him. If only we had kept some more of the decent ones.

 

I really don't understand why all of you love him and saw any potential, he was slow, weak and didn't have a lot of skill............yeah great potential!

[Chez]

It's not just the fact that Pardew sees him in training which makes him know better than you. He is a professional football manager you know.

What, so managers don't make mistakes when accessing young players and their potential to be top notch? Successful managers get it wrong all the time. I give you Akinbiyi for £5m. No hang on how about our mate Ali and Souness.

[The9]

*You* think *you* could see, whereas clearly plenty of other people disagree.

 

Bearing in mind potential is nigh on impossible to judge to us who only see him in very short spells, and not playing every week.

 

I really wouldn't try to claim that you KNOW he won't make it, because history is littered with examples where managers have got it wrong, let alone fans.

 

You don't rate him, or think he has potential, that's fair enough, but personally, I think to judge him as you have done, at his age, is way too harsh IMO.

 

Only time will tell of course.

 

He said "was lacking", so I suspect the opinion has already been formed.

 

FWIW from first team, pre-season and reserves watching I've seen him probably getting on for 10 times, and I thought he was reasonably pacy, worked his guts off closing people down (which actually works at this level) and usually showed decent finishing ability when given opportunities.

 

Seemed to have the right attitude as well, enthusiastic and hard-working. He should get more opportunities at a (slightly) lower club, especially one where a striker has just left. He has already showed he can score in this division and might well turn out to be a decent player, but he wasn't going to get any nearer the Saints team without playing, and has wasn't quite ready for regular starts yet.

 

Good luck Pato, maybe people in Southend will be able to spell your name ?

[Whitey Grandad]

Ever heard of ability/potential?

I think it's better for both parties if he gets regular football from now on. We need to keep moving upwards and until we find our level I'm afraid we don't have time to let 'potential' develop. We need results now, even if we have to buy them instead of growing them.

[Tac-tics]

He is never going to make it, one of our worst academy prospects and thank god we got rid of him. If only we had kept some more of the decent ones.

 

I really don't understand why all of you love him and saw any potential, he was slow, weak and didn't have a lot of skill............yeah great potential!

 

you're now added to the mong list.

[St Marco]

Have to agree with a lot of what people are saying. He made very few appearances and scored even fewer. As a person he is a nice lad, tried hard and that is what is expected of everyone who comes through those doors.

 

But i can't help feel a bit of de ja vu coming on here. The people bigging him up were the same people who said BWP,DMG,Dyer etc.. would all go on to be excellent prem players...

Let's not over do it. The lad is nearly 21. Would he really turn into this amazing player some mention within the 9 years or so he has left as a pro? Better then the strikers we have? Better then the strikers we can buy? The answer is a clear no.

 

I hope the lad goes on to succeed, he needs to be playing games. But i can't help feel that people now need to get out of this give them a chance mentality we adopted when Lowe returned. We are no longer a club that has to make do with what we have, we have the resources to get better players. Patterson could turn out to be a very good player, but based on his performances you have to say he could also turn out to be a not so good player.

 

I wish him all the best for his new club but i do not see it as a loss at all. He is at the stage where he has to play games or will just be one of those players who get to 24 years old at a good club and have never played that often, only to be released into the wilderness never to be heard from again. If he wants to succeed then he was going to have to drop down to another team. If Pardew put Patterson in the team ahead of the strikers we have people would call him crazy, because it would be. He on paper would be our worst striker. So do we really need Lambert,Barnard,Connolly,Saga,Waigo and Patterson? He would be the 6th choice striker and thus would never play. It is in the lads best interests to move on. And in terms of future potential i would rate Mclaggon the more likely striker to come through our yout teams.

 

So good luck Pato, wish you all the best

[Give it to Ron]

He said "was lacking", so I suspect the opinion has already been formed.

 

FWIW from first team, pre-season and reserves watching I've seen him probably getting on for 10 times, and I thought he was reasonably pacy, worked his guts off closing people down (which actually works at this level) and usually showed decent finishing ability when given opportunities.

 

Seemed to have the right attitude as well, enthusiastic and hard-working. He should get more opportunities at a (slightly) lower club, especially one where a striker has just left. He has already showed he can score in this division and might well turn out to be a decent player, but he wasn't going to get any nearer the Saints team without playing, and has wasn't quite ready for regular starts yet.

 

Good luck Pato, maybe people in Southend will be able to spell your name ?

 

Good post exactly the same as I see it....watched him quite a bit in the Ressies - He was thrown in far too early last year and put him back ages....same as Oscar Gobern.

[Ash]

What, so managers don't make mistakes when accessing young players and their potential to be top notch? Successful managers get it wrong all the time. I give you Akinbiyi for £5m. No hang on how about our mate Ali and Souness.

It is irrelevant but I think you're being deliberately silly. I didn't say that managers don't make mistakes, I was commenting that you seem to reach the conclusion that Pardew knows best because he watches training everyday. Whereas he actually knows best because he knows a **** load more about football than you and I put together.

Stop being silly.

[krissyboy31]

Potentially a good player at this level and maybe in a few years, the Championship. Like may of our young players however, never going to be good enough for the very top and hopefully, that's where we're heading. He needs to be playing regularly and staying here (for the odd cameo appearance off the bench) will stall his development. Good luck Pato, hope it goes well for you!

[doggface]

Good luck to pato, I would have preffered a loan for now but we have a very experienced back room team & u have to trust their judgement.

Also it appears he has rejected any opportunity of going out on loan in the past which is crazy.

If pato really wanted to play for saints he should have gone out on loan & proved he can cut it, so he only has himself to blame - needs to grow some balls.

[mancsaint]

Good luck to him in the future, he was a Saints supporter through and through, as was all his family, and I hope a sell clause was included.

 

Mancsaint

[sidthesquid]

Good luck to the lad. He will yet have a good career in football

[Foxstone]

Good Luck Lad

[Chez]

It is irrelevant but I think you're being deliberately silly. I didn't say that managers don't make mistakes, I was commenting that you seem to reach the conclusion that Pardew knows best because he watches training everyday. Whereas he actually knows best because he knows a **** load more about football than you and I put together.

Stop being silly.

 

If pointing out the weakness in your aguement is being silly then yes I'm being silly. I repeat, professional football managers make mistakes allt he time with players and this `could' be another.