the.saint.1885 Posted 2 October, 2010 Share Posted 2 October, 2010 Will be interesting to hear his side of the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 2 October, 2010 Share Posted 2 October, 2010 See "Question Pardew?" thread ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 October, 2010 Share Posted 2 October, 2010 You won't hear his side of the story Plus he is gone, get over it ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 October, 2010 Share Posted 2 October, 2010 Will be interesting to hear his side of the story Pardew is in the past. No point in going on and on about a manager that was only average. Get over it and look forwards ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 2 October, 2010 Share Posted 2 October, 2010 Pardew is in the past. No point in going on and on about a manager that was only average. Get over it and look forwards ! Hahahaha thats a real coffee over keyboard moment ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He's on now. http://www.everythingon.tv/viewChannel.php?channelId=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He just said he is a big fan of Kevin Davies and can't understand why he hasn't played for England. Thank God we sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Just said thank you to Saints players & fans.Talking about Adkins now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I think it's clear to see that he didn't have much good to say about Nicola - hence why he decided not to comment when asked what he thought of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Hmm.. very tight lipped. Been warned by Nicola possibly - "Say anything bad about the club and you'll know about it" sort of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Hmm.. very tight lipped. Been warned by Nicola possibly - "Say anything bad about the club and you'll know about it" sort of thing? i don't think it works like that. As he said, he's still under a contract with us (NDA) - both he and Nicola would have signed it, and if that's broken then his payout will be at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He just said he is a big fan of Kevin Davies and can't understand why he hasn't played for England. Thank God we sacked him. Bit harsh IMO. Davies has been plying his trade in the Prem for a long time and all managers know just what a threat his hold up play is. Personally I'd say it's a travesty KD never got a look in when that useless sack of **** Heskey won as many caps as he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Reading between the lines it was just a clash of personalities with Nicola & him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He isn't going to come on TV and say much that will affect his prospects for getting another job is he ? If he was sacked because of off field issues and something he has done wrong he will keep quiet. If he was sacked because of NC and a clash of personalities he will not say because the NDA will mean he has harmed his pay off agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He isn't going to come on TV and say much that will affect his prospects for getting another job is he ? If he was sacked because of off field issues and something he has done wrong he will keep quiet. If he was sacked because of NC and a clash of personalities he will not say because the NDA will mean he has harmed his pay off agreement. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 What did he say about Adkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 He said he was a very good manager and thought we should get promoted with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I know he won't say anything that will affect his future employment chances but I think after seeing that we can dismiss all of the stupid rumours that as pardew said is down to the Internet and people making up stories. I think it was purely down to cortese not liking the guy and expecting more than pardew (or any manager) could possibly have produced last season. I hope the poor start to this season has made cortese see the naive errors of his ways. Good luck pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I think it was purely down to cortese not liking the guy and expecting more than pardew (or any manager) could possibly have produced last season. I hope the poor start to this season has made cortese see the naive errors of his ways. Good luck pardew. Au contraire, more likely that NC will see that he did exactly the right thing by replacing Pardew when it was clear that the players were in poor shape after pre-season. NC's only regret will probably be that he was distracted by the untimely demise of Markus and should have done the right thing sooner. I liked AP but can see now that he was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning, in a similar fashion to Burley, and like GB he was going to cost us dear. Adkins clearly is turning things around and will not be found wanting in the area of fitness in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I know he won't say anything that will affect his future employment chances but I think after seeing that we can dismiss all of the stupid rumours that as pardew said is down to the Internet and people making up stories. I think it was purely down to cortese not liking the guy and expecting more than pardew (or any manager) could possibly have produced last season. I hope the poor start to this season has made cortese see the naive errors of his ways. Good luck pardew. You dismiss all the internet rumours, and then go on to start one of your own. We just have to accept that we are very unlikely to find out the reasons, and just let it be. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Au contraire, more likely that NC will see that he did exactly the right thing by replacing Pardew when it was clear that the players were in poor shape after pre-season. NC's only regret will probably be that he was distracted by the untimely demise of Markus and should have done the right thing sooner. I liked AP but can see now that he was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning, in a similar fashion to Burley, and like GB he was going to cost us dear. Adkins clearly is turning things around and will not be found wanting in the area of fitness in the future. I didn't see anything wrong with the players (Lambert aside) fitness at Plymouth or Orient they didn't seem to struggle against Bournemouth, Bolton or Bristol either. The problems came when Wilkins took over the player confidence took a knock. Now they have a proper manger again instead of an out of depth coach thier performances are improving again. Interesting piece in the Pink today where Lallana says his knee problem was caused becuase he over trainned himself before pre-season becuase he wanted to stay fit between seasons. Nothing to do with the club it was self inflicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I know he won't say anything that will affect his future employment chances but I think after seeing that we can dismiss all of the stupid rumours that as pardew said is down to the Internet and people making up stories. I think it was purely down to cortese not liking the guy and expecting more than pardew (or any manager) could possibly have produced last season. I hope the poor start to this season has made cortese see the naive errors of his ways. Good luck pardew. Jeez, that's naive to put it mildly. Chamberlain said he had an agreement with Hitler too, so we could forget about war. Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 You dismiss all the internet rumours, and then go on to start one of your own. We just have to accept that we are very unlikely to find out the reasons, and just let it be. It is what it is. How am I starting a rumour? My comments are directly related to pardews comments this morning. He said he believes cortese lost faith in him and that the rumours on the Internet (presumably about him messing around with players wives etc) were rubbish. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I don't see any reason to believe that player fitness was an issue and I agree with the poster above saying that the team looked fit enough at the start of the season. I dont think anyone can dimiss the great record we had under pardew either. Which is another comment he made this morning. Dont get me wrong, I think Adkins will be an improvement but I think pardew should be able to come out of all this with his head held high without all the rumours damaging his career. And yes, I know we need to move on... No harm in discussing it on the back of the program today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Au contraire, more likely that NC will see that he did exactly the right thing by replacing Pardew when it was clear that the players were in poor shape after pre-season. NC's only regret will probably be that he was distracted by the untimely demise of Markus and should have done the right thing sooner. I liked AP but can see now that he was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning, in a similar fashion to Burley, and like GB he was going to cost us dear. Adkins clearly is turning things around and will not be found wanting in the area of fitness in the future. We looked awful against Bristol Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I don't see any reason to believe that player fitness was an issue and I agree with the poster above saying that the team looked fit enough at the start of the season. I dont think anyone can dimiss the great record we had under pardew either. Which is another comment he made this morning. Dont get me wrong, I think Adkins will be an improvement but I think pardew should be able to come out of all this with his head held high without all the rumours damaging his career. And yes, I know we need to move on... No harm in discussing it on the back of the program today. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 We looked awful against Bristol Rovers. I watched us at the Mem, and to be fair we weren't anything special. It was a similar performance to the Plymouth game, it's just that Rovers were god awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Au contraire, more likely that NC will see that he did exactly the right thing by replacing Pardew when it was clear that the players were in poor shape after pre-season. NC's only regret will probably be that he was distracted by the untimely demise of Markus and should have done the right thing sooner. I liked AP but can see now that he was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning, in a similar fashion to Burley, and like GB he was going to cost us dear. Adkins clearly is turning things around and will not be found wanting in the area of fitness in the future. You could argue that the pre-season fixtures, the swiss matches aside, were poorly selected and Pardew didn't, for whatever reason, give enough run outs to first teamers. However, Lambert credited his improved fitness last year to Pardew. Also I imagine the medical team that Adkins praised last week was probably in place under Pardew, so I don't agree that Pardew was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macey_J2 Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6424393,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,12606_6424393,00.html It was good to hear from him, even though he couldn't be open (and as he said nor can NC, because both sides are still under contract). I was disappointed when he was fired, I wish him well and thank him for the trip to Wembley last season. However, this is all water under the bridge - the King is dead, love live the King! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Seems genuinly hurt by the whole thing. Especially "those" rumors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 You could argue that the pre-season fixtures, the swiss matches aside, were poorly selected and Pardew didn't, for whatever reason, give enough run outs to first teamers. However, Lambert credited his improved fitness last year to Pardew. Also I imagine the medical team that Adkins praised last week was probably in place under Pardew, so I don't agree that Pardew was lacking in the area of fitness and conditioning. We definitely replaced some of the medical team during the summer, possibly not the fitness coaches, but not sure. Also Lambert;s fitness during last season was clearly improved (but then he was seriously overweight when he joined us). Thats not the same though as putting a whole team through pre-season. I stand by my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 It's quite clear from that Pardew's saying that the wife ****ging rumours are complete bull. Also if he was banging Fonte's other half the papers would have picked up on it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Pardew is history. Forget him. He was a rubbish manager anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Pardew is history. Forget him. He was a rubbish manager anyway. I heard today that Martin O'Neil was to be unveiled tomorrow !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Well, there we go. Maybe it was purely on the decision by Cortese, which is a bit strange. I am not Pardews biggest fan, however even i would not have sacked him quite so quickly. Unless of course relationships really were strained at the club, in which case i suppose it would be far better to remove him earlier rather than later i suppose as now Adkins has more of a chance to galvinise the season as it is early on. I doubt we will ever know what went on, personally i can't warm to Pardew and never could. He seems slimy and egotistical. It would be good to have words from Cortese to counter act those made my Pard's today, but we never will rightly or wrongly. What has happened has happened now, i just hope we can push on. Adkins looks like he is instilling some good football into the lads, possession attractive football that hopefully we can work on and perfect for when we are premiership bound. And i can also only hope that perhaps if it was Corteses impatience he may well have learnt to stay off the managers back so early on. But then this thing happens in football, look at Paolo Soasa and the amount of managers that have lost their jobs early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Well, there we go. Maybe it was purely on the decision by Cortese, which is a bit strange. I am not Pardews biggest fan, however even i would not have sacked him quite so quickly. Unless of course relationships really were strained at the club, in which case i suppose it would be far better to remove him earlier rather than later i suppose as now Adkins has more of a chance to galvinise the season as it is early on. I doubt we will ever know what went on, personally i can't warm to Pardew and never could. He seems slimy and egotistical. It would be good to have words from Cortese to counter act those made my Pard's today, but we never will rightly or wrongly. What has happened has happened now, i just hope we can push on. Adkins looks like he is instilling some good football into the lads, possession attractive football that hopefully we can work on and perfect for when we are premiership bound. And i can also only hope that perhaps if it was Corteses impatience he may well have learnt to stay off the managers back so early on. But then this thing happens in football, look at Paolo Soasa and the amount of managers that have lost their jobs early. Its hard to put a finger on why i feel happier with Adkins than i was with Pardew. Dont get me wrong i dont think Pardew is a bad manager and i was not a critic when he managed us so i wont be a critic now. With Adkins though i feel he is more intelligent, certainly communicates in a more open way. I think he really does emphasise the team ethic and feel he will get more out of the existing squad. I suspect with Pardew it was as much about him as the team. Which i dont feel this is the case know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 (edited) Its hard to put a finger on why i feel happier with Adkins than i was with Pardew. Dont get me wrong i dont think Pardew is a bad manager and i was not a critic when he managed us so i wont be a critic now. With Adkins though i feel he is more intelligent, certainly communicates in a more open way. I think he really does emphasise the team ethic and feel he will get more out of the existing squad. I suspect with Pardew it was as much about him as the team. Which i dont feel this is the case know. I think they're both good managers. I felt getting rid of Pardew was a mistake I felt he'd achieved enough last season to have crack at getting us promoted. Having said that Nigel is growing on me and his appointment will be a good one for saints I think. They both approach the game in different ways Pardews way resulted in some great performances and a hell of a lot of goals but could result in some poor performances to. Watching us play yesterday I've got a feeling Nigels game is more about control/defence once he gets into his stride I feel we will have less off days than during Alans tenure but probably less big wins/performaces. Prehaps now those who were quick to brand AP all sorts of scum based on rumours of the internet might like to reconsider. He gave us a good season something we needed after relegation/admin won us a trophy and (I feel) gave us back some desire to be saints fans after some hard times and a great day at wembley. So while Nigel has my full support as saints manager Alan has my respect and thanks for giving me back a passion for supporting saints last season. Edited 3 October, 2010 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I think they're both good managers. I felt getting rid of Pardew was a mistake I felt he'd achieved enough last season to have crack at getting us promoted. Having said that Nigel is growing on me and his appointment will be a good one for saints I think. They both approach the game in different ways Pardews way resulted in some great performances and a hell of a lot of goals but could result in some poor performances to. Watching us play yesterday I've got a feeling Nigels game is more about control/defence wants he gets into his stride I feel we will have less off days than during Alans tenure but probably less big wins/performaces. Prehaps now those who were quick to brand AP all sorts of scum based on rumours of the internet might like to reconsider. He gave us a good season something we needed after relegation/admin won us a trophy and (I feel) gave us back some desire to be saints fans after some hard times and a great day at wembley. So while Nigel has my full support as saints manager Alan has my respect and thanks for giving me back a passion for supporting saints last season. I agree. What Pardew did was made us a WINNING team. The very fact that people complain he only got a draw at Wycombe is evidence of the difference he made to the club at a time when we desperately needed a winning mentality. Adkins now has the opportunity to build on that. Good luck to him. It's time we started to attack this league properly and stamp our bank balance all over it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 apologies didn't realise the video on internet related to this. Tired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I think he was rebutting the Players wife rumours. Why else would he mention the internet. clearly a dig at some of those on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Pardew is in the past. No point in going on and on about a manager that was only average. Get over it and look forwards ! So you will never ever be mentioning another certain ex manager then ?:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Still gutted that he was sacked. One of the few, if not only, managers that I liked before he came here, I liked when he was here and I still liked after he left. Like he said, he built a team to be proud of here, and he gave us some good memories. Very happy with Adkins, but would've loved to have seen Pardew here for the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Pardew's words here don't quite play into the hands of the Cortese lapdogs on here desperate to make out that his sacking "wasn't about football". Oh well. All history now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Pardew's words here don't quite play into the hands of the Cortese lapdogs on here desperate to make out that his sacking "wasn't about football". Oh well. All history now though. Yep, the fact he denies any rumours definitely means those rumours aren't true. If they were true, he certainly would have said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Yep, the fact he denies any rumours definitely means those rumours aren't true. If they were true, he certainly would have said so. For the self appointed forum smart arse, sometimes you're not that smart. There are plenty of things he could have said, or indeed not said, that would have the supported the "not about football" angle. Think about how Sturrock framed his departure. Pardew framed his departure as management losing faith in his ability to deliver. He could have framed it in countless other ways, and he could have said even less than he did on the matter. I know it's jolly exciting to ping about text messages about ****ging players wives and far be it from me to take that joy away from you. Lots of your posts on here are quite funny, I like them but this time you've been a teensy bit lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 The fact remains that the interview proves nothing. You are implying it proves something. I love it when you get like this, CB. You are so brooding and manly and clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 I do think he would have refrained from even implying it was because the chairman had lost faith in him if he had done something as serious as people have implied he has. He would have just refused to discuss the whole thing surely. To me he seemed genuinely as clueless as the rest of us and thats not the sign of a guilty man. Yes I know he wouldn't say otherwise............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 it sounded rehearsed if you ask me. he basically said, no comment. what he did say was that he was still under contract to the club, that is interesting is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 October, 2010 Share Posted 3 October, 2010 Still gutted that he was sacked. One of the few, if not only, managers that I liked before he came here, I liked when he was here and I still liked after he left. Like he said, he built a team to be proud of here, and he gave us some good memories. Very happy with Adkins, but would've loved to have seen Pardew here for the long term. this, that video makes some things vey clear. btw - why does everyone describe atkins as intelligent? just cos he wears specs i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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