Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just a quickie. I try not to be much of a whinger and have a persecution complex but I thought this was a bit out of order; Aston Villa slipped into the bottom three in controversial circumstances as Jay Rodriguez's blatant first-half dive helped Southampton to a valuable win. Is that not a bit strong, or do I detect some ill-feeling in the comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Ashley Young dives everyweek, do they call his dives blatant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 definitely unprofessional imo, something along the lines of 'Aston Villa slipped into the bottom three in controversial circumstances as Lambert scored from the spot despite hints of a dive from Rodriguez' would have sufficed. So much for impartiality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Ashley Young dives everyweek, do they call his dives blatant? As does Gareth Bale, in their eyes he's unfairly treated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I suppose Luis Suarez is "controversial" most weeks :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I hate the BBC - they are whinging, leftie, communist leaning pessimists determined to bring the country down. Which would make them Villa fans, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 They were debating it for ages on final score . After the darts finished early . One of the pundits was clearly a villa fan or ex villa player . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Maybe Steve Grant should sent an email of complaint on behalf of the MB about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just the typical BBC anti-Saints bias shining through again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejam Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Did the ref not say that he gave it for the first foul? ie - by the keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskoolsi Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I'd assume they have seen the replays and know better than anyone if it was blatant. No problem with it. Call a spade a spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 really poor coverage, they also made more out of Rodriguez announcing he was frustrated at not getting starts the day before on the website. 606 coverage is no better, fair play to the Saints fan having a go at that sarcastic pair, (Savage and that other Muppet) on there just now about the bias towards ref's decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I knew this would be the case if we didn't score a 2nd. It will be all about the dive, and nothing about the fact we got a massive win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I hate the BBC - they are whinging, leftie, communist leaning pessimists determined to bring the country down. Which would make them Villa fans, I suppose... Love it, ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I hate the BBC - they are whinging, leftie, communist leaning pessimists determined to bring the country down. Which would make them Villa fans, I suppose... I love this...........spot on by the way .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just the typical BBC anti-Saints bias shining through again. But it was a blatant dive.....apparently, so they were only reporting the facts....weren't they? Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 If all you have to worry about is this, can I have your life as it is clearly better than mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Even my Villa supporting mate agreed, it was not a dive. Rodriguez loses his footing under a challenge and did not make ANY attempt to appeal or claim it as a penalty. I don't think it was a penalty either but today, unlike other days, we got the rub of the green so I figure we should take it with good grace and accept that next week it may well be us who are on the end of a dodgy decision (Turnbull's handball in the Chelsea game anybody?) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Even my Villa supporting mate agreed, it was not a dive. Rodriguez loses his footing under a challenge and did not make ANY attempt to appeal or claim it as a penalty. I don't think it was a penalty either but today, unlike other days, we got the rub of the green so I figure we should take it with good grace and accept that next week it may well be us who are on the end of a dodgy decision (Turnbull's handball in the Chelsea game anybody?) ... Ramirez goal against Arsenal disallowed for nothing for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I'm waiting for the replay on MOTD. Everyone around me at Villa Park today was mystified by the call for the penalty... yet delighted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I'm waiting for the replay on MOTD. Everyone around me at Villa Park today was mystified by the call for the penalty... yet delighted! There is a link on the post match relation thread. No contact at all. Not a pen. Adkins is right though, if he didn't move his leg then there wold have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 reply here: http://www.footytube.com/video/aston-villa-southampton-jan12-151696?ref=hp_latestvideos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Watched Garth Crooks and Martin Keown throw there toys out of the pram about it on Final Score while watching the match The BBC just hate us for some reason. fact is there was intent by the Villa player to foul Jay and he moved his leg to avoid injury and Halsey gave it for that reason end of story. to say he dived is just ludicrous i'm sure Garth Crooks and Martin Keown have done some questionable thinks in the game before and got away with it. and we deserve a bit of luck from refs for a change too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 The pen was for the first offence by the keeper who clattered Rickie, ref played on, jay Rod went down, Gaston put over the bar, ref realised no advantage gained and gave the pen for the first offence. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I really don't like Darren Fletcher or whatever his name is on 5 Live. A complete wally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I thought it was given for a foul by the keeper on someone. Couldn't see from where I was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 January, 2013 If all you have to worry about is this' date=' can I have your life as it is clearly better than mine?[/quote'] If you're referring to me, I take exception to your comments. Read again... and for clarification, I don't believe any media outlet has it in for us but I thought the opening gambit for the report is massively skewed. It's as if a fuming Villa fan had wrote it on their blog. The rest of the article isn't too bad, but I don't think it's a particularly professional way to start a match report. That's all. I think I'll get over it...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 wonder if the press will be as vindictive with Mata after Chelseas pen today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Ashley Young dives everyweek, do they call his dives blatant? BBC report when Ashley Young dived to win a penalty vs Villa last season: Manchester United re-established a five-point lead over Manchester City at the top of the Premier League but their victory over Aston Villa was aided by another controversial penalty. Ashley Young, who won a spot-kick last week against QPR, was involved again, adjudged to be tripped by Ciaran Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 The pen was for the first offence by the keeper who clattered Rickie, ref played on, jay Rod went down, Gaston put over the bar, ref realised no advantage gained and gave the pen for the first offence. End of. You are describing the advantage rule as it applies to rugby, not to football. You don't even know the rules of the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 reply here: http://www.footytube.com/video/aston-villa-southampton-jan12-151696?ref=hp_latestvideos First time I've seen it and yep, no contact on Jrod and the keeper got to the ball first in the earlier phase, so no foul there either. Lucky to get that, but I don't give a flying feck. There's been plenty of other teams that have had dodgy pens. I'd have been happy for us to run out 2 or 3-0 winners but I'll take 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 If you're referring to me, I take exception to your comments. Read again... and for clarification, I don't believe any media outlet has it in for us but I thought the opening gambit for the report is massively skewed. It's as if a fuming Villa fan had wrote it on their blog. The rest of the article isn't too bad, but I don't think it's a particularly professional way to start a match report. That's all. I think I'll get over it...! Hopefully you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 I thought it was given for a foul by the keeper on someone. Couldn't see from where I was Just watched the link skint posted above, it looks like that to me as well, keeper dragging down Punch. J-Rod whipped his leg out of the way of a real lunge, whats he supposed to do, get his leg knackered to keep the villa crowd happy? You could even see him saying he wasn't fouled, and didn't make any sort of claim for a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just watched the link skint posted above, it looks like that to me as well, keeper dragging down Punch. J-Rod whipped his leg out of the way of a real lunge, whats he supposed to do, get his leg knackered to keep the villa crowd happy? You could even see him saying he wasn't fouled, and didn't make any sort of claim for a pen. Spot on about Jrod. I think the ref thought there was contact and gave the pen for that. To be fair, it was a crap attempt at a tackle and as you say, would have done him some damage if contact was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Hopefully you will. Great response. As is this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Great response. As is this. Still not over it yet then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Blatant dive IMO and amazed if anyone really thinks differently. Not complaining at three points for a second but the dive was pretty embarrassing. That said, the ref has (apparently) said that he gave pen for the first challenge so who gives a ****??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Blatant dive IMO and amazed if anyone really thinks differently. Not complaining at three points for a second but the dive was pretty embarrassing. That said, the ref has (apparently) said that he gave pen for the first challenge so who gives a ****??! Don't be so bloody silly. It was not a dive and even if it was it was not blatant. It was cleverly done. But it wasn't! Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 If benteke done that at our end and villa won 1-0. Who would be saying it was not a dive?? Also, it will be old news tomorrow as Ashley young and Suarez are on the same pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just watched that link. Had no idea about the Jrod challenge tbh! Dive was embarrassing and you can see why te arguement is there that he moved out the way but not for me, blatant dive. If the oppo had done that we'd be going mental....BUT we should have had a couple of pens this season which we didnt get. It evens itself out so they say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 The pen was for the first offence by the keeper who clattered Rickie, ref played on, jay Rod went down, Gaston put over the bar, ref realised no advantage gained and gave the pen for the first offence. End of. This is the only way it makes sense for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just watched that link. Had no idea about the Jrod challenge tbh! Dive was embarrassing and you can see why te arguement is there that he moved out the way but not for me, blatant dive. If the oppo had done that we'd be going mental....BUT we should have had a couple of pens this season which we didnt get. It evens itself out so they say... The wording is: 'trip, or attempt to trip' so there does not have to be contact for it to be a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just the typical BBC anti-Saints bias shining through again. There's no anti-Saints rhetoric on BBC Solent just Dave 'bigging-up' his favourite player of the day for 90 tiresome minutes. Jay got the treatment today, Jason last time away. Such clear bias is sickening to hear... BBC huh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Don't be so bloody silly. It was not a dive and even if it was it was not blatant. It was cleverly done. But it wasn't! Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Oh, right, sorry.......ahem......it was never a dive and I am amazed no bones were broken with that dreadful tackle. Better? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Oh, right, sorry.......ahem......it was never a dive and I am amazed no bones were broken with that dreadful tackle. Better? ;-) Are players allowed to try to avoid tackles? In doing so are they allowed to lose their balance? Of course not. It was a blatant dive. Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 It's possible for it to not be a foul, not be a dive, and for the ref to make a complete hash of it. I don't personally think he was looking for a foul, just overbalanced getting out the way of the challenge coming in. He hasn't tried to claim anything. BBC haven't been as impartial as they should have been in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 It's possible for it to not be a foul, not be a dive, and for the ref to make a complete hash of it. I don't personally think he was looking for a foul, just overbalanced getting out the way of the challenge coming in. BBC haven't been as impartial as they should have been in my opinion. This^ Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Just the typical BBC anti-Saints bias shining through again. No way, thats all in our heads, remember ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Still not over it yet then? On second thoughts, I might not be. This could take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan17 Posted 12 January, 2013 Share Posted 12 January, 2013 Are players allowed to try to avoid tackles? In doing so are they allowed to lose their balance? Of course not. It was a blatant dive. Sent from my HTC Desire S using Tapatalk 2 Behave yourself. Blatant dive. Embarrassing. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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