Arizona Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 £60 saved not bothering with that one by the sounds of it. Not a bad away point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 3 Games unbeaten, 2 clean sheets in a row. Dunno why people were expecting us to win, Charlton are actually a decent side, who have lost their useless manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 3 Games unbeaten, 2 clean sheets in a row. And 5 points, not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 a good weeks work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Well I'd have taken that before the game so a good point away from home & keeps them 4-points behind us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Good result, up a couple of places. Not a bad afternoon all in all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Unbeaten for 3 games! When did this last happen?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 yeah but we are now exspecting us to win away and prayng for a point at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Well done lads. A point away from home is a decent result no matter who the opposition. The fact it has restricted the points gained by Charlton is also a bonus as they would have been looking at this match as a "6 pointer". 3 games unbeaten and onlt 1 goal conceded. Its exactly these kind of statistics that will breed confidence and see us achieve more positive results. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc6mufc3 Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 My feeling is the same as others a good point and when I saw away Reading, home Plymouth, away Charlton - I didn't think we would be UNDEFEATED. Good 5pts and today moved up the table. You would have expected Watford to win so that's a good result for us as was Norwich losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 cant help feeling a bit gutted. was hoping more than expecting for 3 points today. when we cant buy a win at home we need to be picking up the 3 points away where we can exploit more space. Not any worse off on the table though so will be pleased with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 cant help feeling a bit gutted. was hoping more than expecting for 3 points today. when we cant buy a win at home we need to be picking up the 3 points away where we can exploit more space. Not any worse off on the table though so will be pleased with that. In fact better off, Watford and Norwich are now below us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Unbeaten for 3 games! When did this last happen?! Not too long ago I should imagine. It's winning 3 games in a row that never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 In fact better off, Watford and Norwich are now below us. W00T! We will walk this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdownunder Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 A good result away COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Kelvin Davis, player of the season already I'm happy with the point. We couldn't expect more. The important thing now is to start scoring and winning at home. But with the current crop of strikers I just can't see it happening. Robertson is a waste of space (when i've seen him at least) and has done nothing since the, apprarently fluke, wonder goal. I'd rather see Patterson being given regular start ahead of him. We need goals. 0-0 draws won't keep us up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSt Peter Saint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Don't know what to say really. Better than a defeat and we had a good chance to win it near the end, and that would have been an excellent result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 David Armstrong saying excellent performance and good tactical move by JP by changing midfield at halftime. Doing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 OK, a good point and great fighting spirit, and well done the defence. But the strikers MUST start scoring. We have always had the benefits of at leat one regular goal-scorer most seasona. Without contributions by Beattie, Rasiak, John and Saga our results then would look as sick as our home form does today. We went down when Beattie left. The warning signs are out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 not bad...will do me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 we are doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 OK, a good point and great fighting spirit, and well done the defence. But the strikers MUST start scoring. We have always had the benefits of at leat one regular goal-scorer most seasona. Without contributions by Beattie, Rasiak, John and Saga our results then would look as sick as our home form does today. We went down when Beattie left. The warning signs are out there. not bad...will do me agree -not bad will do at mo is fair assessment and realistically what we can aim for at moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Decent result but I am worried. If Lowe intends pursuing his youth policy, and it seems from many sources that is the case then he will not want to sell Lallana or Surman and quite right too. However, if he cannot offload at least 2 of John, Saganowski, Euell and Skacel (Rasiak is on a full year loan I believe) then he is going to have to look at our only other high earning saleable assett and that is Davis. That will leave us with and inexperienced and so far uninspiring Bialkowski and Forecast the rookie who is not yet, and by some accounts never will make the grade. It is Davis that is helping keeping the goals against down. So my fear is there for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 In fact better off, Watford and Norwich are now below us. Actually I think thats a fook up by the beeb we had 19 points before this game and now have 21 according to them ... old style football points system? lol Well we are still above Watford I think and 4 points away from Charlton Id take that at the end of the season though I'd like to hope we can end mid table at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 In fact better off, Watford and Norwich are now below us. Sorry to be pedantic but Watford were already below us (they drew as well !) but we have gone above Norwich as they lost !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 A good point away from home and a clean sheet is always good. What really matters is our home form... oh :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 OK, a good point and great fighting spirit, and well done the defence. But the strikers MUST start scoring. We have always had the benefits of at leat one regular goal-scorer most seasona. Without contributions by Beattie, Rasiak, John and Saga our results then would look as sick as our home form does today. We went down when Beattie left. The warning signs are out there. Yes I agree we must do something about getting in Strikers for the new year. I know we have John and Saga but they are too expensive. If Premiership clubs see how we are playing perhaps they will loan one or two of their young strikers it is shame Pekhart has not performed well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Actually I think thats a fook up by the beeb we had 19 points before this game and now have 21 according to them ... old style football points system? lol Well we are still above Watford I think and 4 points away from Charlton Id take that at the end of the season though I'd like to hope we can end mid table at least. We had 19 last Saturday and got 1 on Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Actually I think thats a fook up by the beeb we had 19 points before this game and now have 21 according to them ... old style football points system? lol Well we are still above Watford I think and 4 points away from Charlton Id take that at the end of the season though I'd like to hope we can end mid table at least. No we had 20 points before this game. It's a **** up by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes I agree we must do something about getting in Strikers for the new year. I know we have John and Saga but they are too expensive. If Premiership clubs see how we are playing perhaps they will loan one or two of their young strikers it is shame Pekhart has not performed well. We do not need any more young strikers,we need an experienced one and the board must find a way or we will be in serious trouble. The best option would be one we already own. I won`t comment on the game as i did not hear any of it so will await the reports from those at the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 5 points from two away games and one home game I'll settle for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 (edited) We do not need any more young strikers,we need an experienced one and the board must find a way or we will be in serious trouble. The best option would be one we already own. I won`t comment on the game as i did not hear any of it so will await the reports from those at the match. Yes I agree we want a striker but I do not agree that the ones we have would work in the new system. I noticed neither John or Rasiak played today But from JP comments on the radio they are looking into it but lack of money is not helping Edited 29 November, 2008 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 (edited) The best option would be one we already own. Did they score today? Did they even get a game ? Load of old rubbish, I prefer the young rubbish, at least it's cheaper to run. Nope seemingly not, perhaps their mum's gave them a note saying they shouldn't play with all those nasty men again. Edited 29 November, 2008 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes I agree we want a striker but I do not agree that the ones we have would work in the new system. But from JP comments on the radio they are looking into it but lack of money is not helping Good strikers score goals whatever the "system" simple as that for me. Surely we need to play to a strikers strengths because without goals we don`t win. JP must sort out a "system" to ensure we score, that is his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Did they score today? Did they even get a game ? Load of old rubbish, I prefer the young rubbish, at least it's cheaper to run. A certain Stern John scored a few last season didn`t he? Without those goals we would be in league one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Good strikers score goals whatever the "system" simple as that for me. Surely we need to play to a strikers strengths because without goals we don`t win. JP must sort out a "system" to ensure we score, that is his job. Yes I agree but we are creating chances but JP is not going to fundamentally changed how the team plays from other threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 A certain Stern John scored a few last season didn`t he? Without those goals we would be in league one.... Yes but he's not scoring now, not even playing apparently. Wasn't the same Stern John who turned up in June I'm afraid. Last season he was reliable and fairly prolific, this season he has gone off the boil, think they've noticed already at Bristol City. Could be sick or injured for all I know.He was suspended at the start of the season and seems to have missed the boat since. He'll be back in January so we'll have another chance to assess his worth now won't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes I agree but we are creating chances but JP is not going to fundamentally changed how the team plays from other threads Sure we create a few but simply must take more of them and at the moment we are not so we must find someone who will. Personally i feel it needs to be someone with a proven scoring record at this level at least. The game is about scoring goals and if JP`s "system" does not supply enough then he must change it to ensure we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Sure we create a few but simply must take more of them and at the moment we are not so we must find someone who will. Personally i feel it needs to be someone with a proven scoring record at this level at least. The game is about scoring goals and if JP`s "system" does not supply enough then he must change it to ensure we do. I dont know whether I agree surely the players are guilty of missing chances Both McGoldrick and Lallana seem to have chances but dont score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes but he's not scoring now, not even playing apparently. Wasn't the same Stern John who turned up in June I'm afraid. Last season he was reliable and fairly prolific, this season he has gone off the boil, think they've noticed already at Bristol City. Could be sick or injured for all I know.He was suspended at the start of the season and seems to have missed the boat since. He'll be back in January so we'll have another chance to assess his worth now won't we. How do you come to this conclusion? An opinion perhaps? When he turned up (as you put it) in june it was made clear by Mr Lowe that he was not wanted and when he finally got a few games he was a bit short of match fitness and was not give a run to change that was he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I dont know whether I agree surely the players are guilty of missing chances Both McGoldrick and Lallana seem to have chances but dont score. Precisely!! so get someone back who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Precisely!! so get someone back who can. Yes I agree but I dont think John is the answer thats all. I just dont think he is as sharp as he was he is not playing for Bristol City. He played for us a bit without scoring too many I would like somebody like Blackstock but that wont happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 We do not need any more young strikers,we need an experienced one and the board must find a way or we will be in serious trouble. The best option would be one we already own. I won`t comment on the game as i did not hear any of it so will await the reports from those at the match. How do you expect the board to magic up an experienced striker? We will probably get lumbered with the most useless of those we have out on loan. That looks like Saga by a mile, so he could well get his chance unless he drags us into administration, but there is nothing recently to indicate it is going to be any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 How do you expect the board to magic up an experienced striker? We will probably get lumbered with the most useless of those we have out on loan. That looks like Saga by a mile, so he could well get his chance unless he drags us into administration, but there is nothing recently to indicate it is going to be any better. Did you actually read through what you'd written before pushing the 'submit reply' button. What a load of twaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2008 How do you expect the board to magic up an experienced striker? We will probably get lumbered with the most useless of those we have out on loan. That looks like Saga by a mile, so he could well get his chance unless he drags us into administration, but there is nothing recently to indicate it is going to be any better. If nothing else, Saga will at least put the work in and create problems for the oppositon. There seems to be a bit of this lacking with DMG and, at times, Robertson. I think his 3 (1 League, 1 Cup, 1 Champs League) goals this season puts him above John, Rasiak, Robertson, BWP, Pekhart and Patterson in the scoring charts this season, so hardly top donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Did you actually read through what you'd written before pushing the 'submit reply' button. What a load of twaddle. I dont see there is much wrong in what he said. Ideally if we had more money we may have had more experienced players. Rooney was not very experienced but scored goals for Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes but he's not scoring now, not even playing apparently. Wasn't the same Stern John who turned up in June I'm afraid. Last season he was reliable and fairly prolific, this season he has gone off the boil, think they've noticed already at Bristol City. Could be sick or injured for all I know.He was suspended at the start of the season and seems to have missed the boat since. He'll be back in January so we'll have another chance to assess his worth now won't we. He's moved mid season and is probably still settling in as he's only been there a month or so. He's started 2 games, and been on the bench 4 times in the 7 games since he went there. If Bristol City have noticed already, then it would appear they've got a very poor scouting network/manager as what a waste to go for a loan player only to write him off a month later:rolleyes: As someone has mentioned, the same Stern John did turn up in June, it's just that the powers that be had changed. John & some other high earners were told in no uncertain terms that all efforts would be made to move them on. John was never in Jan's plans and even Jamie White was getting starts ahead of him earlier in the season. We have one of the worst goal scoring records in this division and that is something that the manager needs to address as curretly either the formation or the personnel are underperforming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 (edited) If nothing else, Saga will at least put the work in and create problems for the oppositon. There seems to be a bit of this lacking with DMG and, at times, Robertson. I think his 3 (1 League, 1 Cup, 1 Champs League) goals this season puts him above John, Rasiak, Robertson, BWP, Pekhart and Patterson in the scoring charts this season, so hardly top donkey. Yes Saga is an option but finances maybe a problem. But if John is not scoring at Bristol why will he score here. Early in the season McGoldrick was the main striker so John was not given starts Edited 29 November, 2008 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 29 November, 2008 Share Posted 29 November, 2008 I dont see there is much wrong in what he said. Ideally if we had more money we may have had more experienced players. Rooney was not very experienced but scored goals for Everton No I'm sure you didn't but then due to your stated stance it's hardly a surprise. Try reading it again and digest it's content without any pre-judgement and you may just see it for what it is....utter twaddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 29 November, 2008 Yes Saga is an option but finances maybe a problem Cheaper than going down. We never lost a game last season when Pearson put Saga in the starting line-up. He also brought the best out of John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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