ToreSF Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Thought this was a bit interesting: http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/article3608995.ece The article is mainly about how worried a former norwegian international (Rune Bratseth) is about Forren not getting a game here. Forrens agent (Jim Solbakken) is asked about his opinions on the situation, and this is his answers: Vegard Forres agent Jim Solbakken, urges patience. He claims that everything has gone according to plan so far. - In general terms, I believe we Norwegians have to be a little more patient. Remember that Southampton brought Forren for a reason. The club knows what it is doing and has a plan for Forren, says Solbakken to Nettavisen (the paper). - I think people should be careful not to comment on things they know nothing about. Forren has gone to Southampton to learn in the first place, and everything is as agreed upon, he said. Solbakken is impressed with the professionalism of the team, pointing out that the team has done a very good season after promotion from the Championship. - He came straight from the vacation to a Premier League club, and we can not expect him to go straight into the team. They have done very well after Forren got there. Southampton is extremely professional - one of the more impressive I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Once he gets in the team he will stay there as first choice. But clearly the English style means he needs to adapt his game a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 How long does it take to get "fit" how long does it take to learn "English" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Wasn't he on his "off-season" holidays as well? You don't run into a PL team rolling at full steam like that. Good to see that his agent is the first one to weather the storm. Compare his attitude with the likes of Odemwingie's or Samba's agents (and a good number of PL players) and you cans see we're moving in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 The only reason for this article is the fact that Solskjaers Molde, who won the Norwegian leauge last year, has started with four straight losses this season. So they're trying to drum up a "Forren back to Molde"-issue, which is just a waste of time. Hopefully Forren still has something to offer to Saints. It does seem like time is starting to run out for his chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 There should only be a concern that he's not playing if we are struggling against relegation. We are not. That allows him and us time to get him ready for the huge season that next year will be. It's a safe assumption that his arrival upped the performance and focus of the other CBs, which is exactly what the squad game is all about. I suspect that sooner rather than later he will make his debut - and will be first choice alongside the CB we sign in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 The only reason for this article is the fact that Solskjaers Molde, who won the Norwegian leauge last year, has started with four straight losses this season. So they're trying to drum up a "Forren back to Molde"-issue, which is just a waste of time. Hopefully Forren still has something to offer to Saints. It does seem like time is starting to run out for his chances. Why? Maybe if he came in and played for 4 or 5 games and was dreadful then I could understand....but can't write him off before he's even played and only been here 3 months. Wait and see until he has had a full pre season under his belt then we will see how good he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 why? Maybe if he came in and played for 4 or 5 games and was dreadful then i could understand....but can't write him off before he's even played and only been here 3 months. Wait and see until he has had a full pre season under his belt then we will see how good he is. why should we be patient with players?!?!?!?!?! If they are not immediately our best player a week after signing i am outraged!!!! It is just another example of how awful our transfer policy is!!! We should have been more like qpr ffs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu0x Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I would expect to see Forren a couple of times once we are officially 'safe'. Banging on about how long it takes to get fit is missing the point. We saw at the beginning of the season how catastrophic it can be to have an uncoordinated defence. It took an almost fatally long time, and some big calls, to fix it. Despite our steady improvement, we have remained in the danger zone up until very recently. On that basis, the manager would have to be absolutely mental to bring in a new centre back at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 It took him a while to get fit by all accounts, and now we are playing very well - you don't change a winning formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Saints have just bought a player not born yet, Pavel Smith not yet conceived has been bought by Cortese as he is one for the future................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 It will be interesting to see if he lives up to the long wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Seen him a couple of times for the under 21s, doesn't seem to have the pace and power for the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 My point is this: With Yosihda, Fonte and Hooiveld all ahead of him in the current pecking order, it doesn't seem like he's any better than what we've already got at the club at the moment. Injuries and fitness level aside, he should have been challenging at least Jos a long time ago. The jury is still out of course, but the longer he waits, the less likely it seems, that he'll push Jos or Fonte back in the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Bloody forrens, coming over 'ere takin' are jobs. Innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Another Cortese belter, soon we can have a Cortese XI Gazzaniga Forren Guly Ramirez Mayuka This side is really starting to take shape............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Another Cortese belter, soon we can have a Cortese XI Gazzaniga Forren Guly Ramirez Mayuka This side is really starting to take shape............................. Gazza - 21 - looks a handy young keeper, will improve. Done ok when he was given a chance this season, but not quite ready. Mayuka - 22 - barely played but looked lively a few times when he has come on. Be interesting to see whether hes involved a bit more next season. Gaston - 22 - flashes of utter class, scored 5 goals, 3 assists. Not bad for a first season. Guly - signed in L1 and had a huge part to play in our 2 promotion season. Forren - 25 and barely played for us yet having joined unfit. Courted by other decent clubs and came highly rated. You carry on writing players off though you utter twunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Another Cortese belter, soon we can have a Cortese XI Gazzaniga Forren Guly Ramirez Mayuka This side is really starting to take shape............................. De Ridder on the wing, Lee up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 £20000+ a week for sitting on his ass can't be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Gazza - 21 - looks a handy young keeper, will improve. Done ok when he was given a chance this season, but not quite ready. Mayuka - 22 - barely played but looked lively a few times when he has come on. Be interesting to see whether hes involved a bit more next season. Gaston - 22 - flashes of utter class, scored 5 goals, 3 assists. Not bad for a first season. Guly - signed in L1 and had a huge part to play in our 2 promotion season. Forren - 25 and barely played for us yet having joined unfit. Courted by other decent clubs and came highly rated. You carry on writing players off though you utter twunt. Of course he will, it's guarenteed!! As it is with all the others on te list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Of course he will, it's guarenteed!! As it is with all the others on te list. You want a piece of sugar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 £20000+ a week for sitting on his ass can't be bad. I bet he is on a huge amount more than £20k p/w. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Poch said in his first press conference that Forren was signed for the future not to go immediately into the team. As posted above, I'd assume he might get a go in the team once we're safe, otherwise it'll be up to how he does in preseason whether he becomes a first team starter or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I bet he is on a huge amount more than £20k p/w. How much do you reckon he's on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 How much do you reckon he's on? I reckon around £30/35,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I reckon around £30/35,000 based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 You want a piece of sugar?? what are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 £20000+ a week for sitting on his ass can't be bad. He's only sitting on his ass for 90 odd minutes longer than the rest of the team every week.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Seen him a couple of times for the under 21s, doesn't seem to have the pace and power for the Prem. I wasn't particularly impressed with him in the U21 game at St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I wasn't particularly impressed with him in the U21 game at St Mary's. FFS Krackers, despite being 25 and a full international you've been told hes not be brought in to play in the first team yet. massive tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 based on? Based on absolutely nothing but a hunch. Hence why I said 'I reckon'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 what are you on about? You have just become such a one trick pony, thought you might be hungry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 You have just become such a one trick pony, thought you might be hungry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I wasn't particularly impressed with him in the U21 game at St Mary's. Very interesting player - great distribution and passing and a good 'sense' of how to defend in terms of positioning and reading the play but as slow as I've ever seen play for us in any position. Originally I wondered how on earth that would work with our high line but I can't remember too many times when the centre-halves have had their backs turned with balls dinked over the top since Pochettino took over. If anything it's been the diagonal over the full-backs heads but either way Forren looked like he needed lots of conditioning and fitness to deal with the pace and power of our league irregardless of a high line. But it would be nice to have a central defender in the team who when he passes it forward knows what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 You have just become such a one trick pony, thought you might be hungry.. that's quite amusing for you, a change from your usual boring drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 You have just become such a one trick pony, thought you might be hungry.. I like that one. May have to use it myself in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 How long does it take to get "fit" how long does it take to learn "English" he probably knows (enough) English - many Scandinavians lkearn a lot at school, .....but even if he is " Saints fit " by now, we've been unbeaten in 5 games and as we're going for a higher League place (and bonus), I don't think MP will change the team just for the h*ll of it -. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 My Son met (A very drunk) Forren a couple of weeks ago, who told him he wouldn't feature for the first team this season, but next season he would be competing for a place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 If you look at MP's subs, he rarely, if ever brings on a defender for tactical reasons. The only time is when he brought Fox on to play LM and double up against Hazard. When you also consider that Fonte hasn't got a sniff under MP, the fact that Forren has been made to wait is not a huge surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 he probably knows (enough) English - many Scandinavians lkearn a lot at school, .....but even if he is " Saints fit " by now, we've been unbeaten in 5 games and as we're going for a higher League place (and bonus), I don't think MP will change the team just for the h*ll of it -. Did you lkearn at school? (sorry, I don't know if you're actually Swedish or English) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Its good to hear some honesty from an agent for once. Praise for saints indeed and someone who can bring us other players becuase of the clubs professionalism . better than some slimebll of an agent trying to destabalise players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Liverpool under Shankly and Paisley would routinely put new signings in the reserves for a season before giving them their chance. It let them settle into the clubs playing philosophy, and made them hungry for success. Worked fairly well for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanW Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 How long does it take to get "fit" how long does it take to learn "English" That's silly. He doesn't need to learn "English" ... he needs to learn "Spanish" duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 He might come on from bench in last couple of games this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 17 April, 2013 Author Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Point of the thread was that the agent is praising our professionalism. Remember there was some crook agent who claimed we were impossible to do business with a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Did you lkearn at school? (sorry, I don't know if you're actually Swedish or English) oops ... it's my arthritic finger again..... No I was born in So'ton ....a very long time ago, and have lived in Sweden .....a bit too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toe_punt Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 oops ... it's my arthritic finger again..... No I was born in So'ton ....a very long time ago, and have lived in Sweden .....a bit too long. Yes, it must suck being surrounded by tall, lean, large breasted blond women every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 Yes, it must suck being surrounded by tall, lean, large breasted blond women every day. no you've got that wrong. Many of the " blondes " in Sweden get that colour out of a bottle.......for real blondes ...try Finland instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 I think give him a run out vs Stoke that will test his prem qualities. Look at Yoshida, looked dodgey first few games now he looks like a decent CB who would walk into any side in the bottom half, his interceptions marking and last ditch tackles have been class yes his passing can be poor but point is he can defend and thats what he is required to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 April, 2013 Share Posted 17 April, 2013 why should we be patient with players?!?!?!?!?! If they are not immediately our best player a week after signing i am outraged!!!! It is just another example of how awful our transfer policy is!!! We should have been more like qpr ffs!!! This is a fake post. No ******* asterisks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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