Master Bates Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Well, at first I thought I was p!ssed or dreamt it, but after pming a few people it seems it WAS real what I saw against Reading. A steward had a go at a fan in the Northam end for taking a picture of the match and threatened to chuck him out, it is becoming pathetic when a family club, well, ex-family club like Saints banning people from taking pictures during the match, the directors should hold their heads in shame. What's next, you gonna search everyone before the game and take their camera phones away from them?!?!?!? Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, please explain as to why fans are no longer allowed to take pictures during games, is it because our players are too young to have their pictures taken and could be classed as child porno? just explain,, or i'll get the Echo to find out, not that you'd tell the Echo of course seeing as you're all stuck up the same persons ar5e, pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Well, at first I thought I was p!ssed or dreamt it, but after pming a few people it seems it WAS real what I saw against Reading. A steward had a go at a fan in the Northam end for taking a picture of the match and threatened to chuck him out, it is becoming pathetic when a family club, well, ex-family club like Saints banning people from taking pictures during the match, the directors should hold their heads in shame. What's next, you gonna search everyone before the game and take their camera phones away from them?!?!?!? Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, please explain as to why fans are no longer allowed to take pictures during games, is it because our players are too young to have their pictures taken and could be classed as child porno? just explain,, or i'll get the Echo to find out, not that you'd tell the Echo of course seeing as you're all stuck up the same persons ar5e, pathetic. Think it's like this at many grounds/sporting venues as other people, such as the echo, have paid for the copyright on pictures of the match. This has been mentioned before and someone was told by a steward it was alright on their mobile phone or small digital camera for a couple of quick photos, but not with professional camera as the pictures could be sold. (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 i think it is something to do with copy right laws at certain grounds/venues in order to generate more money (which is understanderble) but if that is right...it wont stop people bashing lowe anyway so what the hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 30 December, 2008 The guy definitely used a mobile. I remember sitting in The Dell and seeing flashes from cameras all during the matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 The guy definitely used a mobile. I remember sitting in The Dell and seeing flashes from cameras all during the matches. either way...same thing..any form of recording/photography it happens at many other grounds/venues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 As we hired 20 stewards from portsmouth for the forest, Reading and manks game then they are probably following strict premiership rules. Or maybe they loved the chance of booting out a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 There are a few stewards at SMS who have let power go their heads & believe that they are eithier police officers, referees or gestapo & think that they have to uphold the law to beyond the letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Even more ridiculous is the shiny new, meter high Elf 'n' Safety hazard board which now finds its way behind the goals during the warm ups. It is big, black and yellow with that hazard-tape zig-zag around the edge and it reads (and I am not making this up): "Danger! Professional footballers warming up. Possibility of injury due to fast moving balls" Now call me dim, but I reckon most people will be expecting to see fast moving footballs being kicked by professional footballers when they go and watch a professional football match. It really does sum up the spirit of the times when clubs have to go to this much length to satisfy the Elf 'n' Safety Nazis. I'm thinking of taking a picture of it at the next game and send it in to Richard Littlejohn. Of course, I will have to get away with taking the picture in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Well, at first I thought I was p!ssed or dreamt it, but after pming a few people it seems it WAS real what I saw against Reading. A steward had a go at a fan in the Northam end for taking a picture of the match and threatened to chuck him out, it is becoming pathetic when a family club, well, ex-family club like Saints banning people from taking pictures during the match, the directors should hold their heads in shame. What's next, you gonna search everyone before the game and take their camera phones away from them?!?!?!? Rupert Lowe, Michael Wilde, please explain as to why fans are no longer allowed to take pictures during games, is it because our players are too young to have their pictures taken and could be classed as child porno? just explain,, or i'll get the Echo to find out, not that you'd tell the Echo of course seeing as you're all stuck up the same persons ar5e, pathetic. Tsk tsk, MB. You must know that in the modern world, we are not allowed to annoy or infringe anyone's personal beliefs. By allowing the taking of photos, the club puts into process the eventual prospect of someone stealing somebody's soul. But other than that, it's all about copyright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 "Danger! Professional footballers warming up. Possibility of injury due to fast moving balls" Must only be at the end where the away team are warming up surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 its not only our ground I have had many problems when taking photos of matches and at Birmingham even had my camera taken away from me and had to collect it after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Must only be at the end where the away team are warming up surely! Hurrah! Some one got my not-at-all-subtle dangling hook! :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Even more ridiculous is the shiny new, meter high Elf 'n' Safety hazard board which now finds its way behind the goals during the warm ups. It is big, black and yellow with that hazard-tape zig-zag around the edge and it reads (and I am not making this up): "Danger! Professional footballers warming up. Possibility of injury due to fast moving balls" Now call me dim, but I reckon most people will be expecting to see fast moving footballs being kicked by professional footballers when they go and watch a professional football match. It really does sum up the spirit of the times when clubs have to go to this much length to satisfy the Elf 'n' Safety Nazis. I'm thinking of taking a picture of it at the next game and send it in to Richard Littlejohn. Of course, I will have to get away with taking the picture in the first place! They have similar ones at half-time during the Flybe penalty shoot out. I thought they should actually place them behind the goals during the game because there's more danger of getting hurt by footballs than the slim chance they might end up in the back of the net!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 its not only our ground I have had many problems when taking photos of matches and at Birmingham even had my camera taken away from me and had to collect it after the game. Camera taken away from you in Birmingham? Probably just trying to half inch it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Well, at first I thought I was p!ssed or dreamt it, but after pming a few people it seems it WAS real what I saw against Reading. Just curious - who did you PM during your investigation? p.s think you should spend more time filling my inbox with nice lady pics - been limited past few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 They have similar ones at half-time during the Flybe penalty shoot out. I thought they should actually place them behind the goals during the game because there's more danger of getting hurt by footballs than the slim chance they might end up in the back of the net!! You are kidding? The flybe penalty shoot out is for kids. Most of the shots don't even reach the goal let alone cause any one an injury. You couldn't make it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 It's about copyright issues. Stewards, old bill etc SHOULD turn a blind eye when they can see photography is for personal use (i.e a mobile phone or digital cam), but some are jobsworth w@nkers who get a cheap thrill out of telling someone what to do. If they were going to stick to the letter of the law they would have to throw out 90,000 fans at a cup final in Wembley. There's rules and there's common sense, however when it comes to most stewards and old bill they don't know the difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I shall be taking a camera to every game now, and if they tell me to hand it over i'll just tell them to f*ck off. You can see camera flashes all game long on MOTD, and literally thousands at Wembley. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 You are kidding? The flybe penalty shoot out is for kids. Most of the shots don't even reach the goal let alone cause any one an injury. You couldn't make it up... The ones for the half-time things are little advertising boards, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I shall be taking a camera to every game now, and if they tell me to hand it over i'll just tell them to f*ck off. You can see camera flashes all game long on MOTD, and literally thousands at Wembley. Ridiculous. You can take some nice pics of the statue while you stand outside like a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I shall be taking a camera to every game now, and if they tell me to hand it over i'll just tell them to f*ck off. You can see camera flashes all game long on MOTD, and literally thousands at Wembley. Ridiculous. Well just make sure that your first f*ck off is an enjoyable one, because that'll no doubt get your camera taken away, and the second expletive will no doubt get you ejected from the ground. Not the best way to spend £25, eh..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 You can take some nice pics of the statue while you stand outside like a fool Forgive me for not wanting to be governed by even MORE retarded rules/laws. If I want to take a picture, I will. I'm sure there have been plenty of fantastic pictures taking by people in the stands opposed to those at pitch side. I can think of at least one of the pitch invasion last season, which I will be keeping for many years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 The ones for the half-time things are little advertising boards, I think. During the Forest game (and that was the first time I noticed it) they definately had signs both signs of the mini-goalposts stating something like (can't remember the exact wording) 'Beware flying footballs. Danger of injury'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 stewards are ****s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 During the Forest game (and that was the first time I noticed it) they definately had signs both signs of the mini-goalposts stating something like (can't remember the exact wording) 'Beware flying footballs. Danger of injury'. How about signs outside the ticket office saying: "Beware of tickets! Could lead to serious boredom and disappointment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 During the Forest game (and that was the first time I noticed it) they definately had signs both signs of the mini-goalposts stating something like (can't remember the exact wording) 'Beware flying footballs. Danger of injury'. Fair enough, I thought I could see a flybe logo on it. Surely there is more danger of laughing too hard at the people who are trying to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Forgive me for not wanting to be governed by even MORE retarded rules/laws. If I want to take a picture, I will. I'm sure there have been plenty of fantastic pictures taking by people in the stands opposed to those at pitch side. I can think of at least one of the pitch invasion last season, which I will be keeping for many years to come. Oh yeah the pitch invasion......yet more rule breaking by football thugs to 'special' to follow the rules/laws. It's no wonder the attendances are in decline! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Forgive me for not wanting to be governed by even MORE retarded rules/laws. If I want to take a picture, I will. I'm sure there have been plenty of fantastic pictures taking by people in the stands opposed to those at pitch side. I can think of at least one of the pitch invasion last season, which I will be keeping for many years to come. Yeah and many others, had my video of the pitch invasion taken off of youtube due to copyright issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 this silly rule came out about 10 to 15 years ago while i was a steward in the away end at fratton Park, Very embarrassing I was instructed to shout out (no photos) a chorus of laughter and much p*s taking to the tune of (who the f*ck wants a picture of this sh*t Hole) would greet me every time;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 I shall be taking a camera to every game now, and if they tell me to hand it over i'll just tell them to f*ck off. You can see camera flashes all game long on MOTD, and literally thousands at Wembley. Ridiculous. If you do, take your mobile as well. Then your pals inside can phone you (outside) and let you know the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 As we hired 20 stewards from portsmouth for the forest, Reading and manks game then they are probably following strict premiership rules. Or maybe they loved the chance of booting out a saints fan. Sundays stewarding is being aided by twenty to thirty skate b.....ds. I think it will be lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Even more ridiculous is the shiny new, meter high Elf 'n' Safety hazard board which now finds its way behind the goals during the warm ups. It is big, black and yellow with that hazard-tape zig-zag around the edge and it reads (and I am not making this up): "Danger! Professional footballers warming up. Possibility of injury due to fast moving balls" Now call me dim, but I reckon most people will be expecting to see fast moving footballs being kicked by professional footballers when they go and watch a professional football match. It really does sum up the spirit of the times when clubs have to go to this much length to satisfy the Elf 'n' Safety Nazis. I'm thinking of taking a picture of it at the next game and send it in to Richard Littlejohn. Of course, I will have to get away with taking the picture in the first place! The irony is the problem isn't the club, its the fans. For example, if I got hit in the face with a football, breaking my nose and causing my male model career to stall, I could sue the club (where there's a blame there's a claim) for not warning me appropriately. The sign insulates against that. I agree it is ridiculous, but the blame lies with the litigious culture we live in, not the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Even more ridiculous is the shiny new, meter high Elf 'n' Safety hazard board which now finds its way behind the goals during the warm ups. It is big, black and yellow with that hazard-tape zig-zag around the edge and it reads (and I am not making this up): "Danger! Professional footballers warming up. Possibility of injury due to fast moving balls" Now call me dim, but I reckon most people will be expecting to see fast moving footballs being kicked by professional footballers when they go and watch a professional football match. It really does sum up the spirit of the times when clubs have to go to this much length to satisfy the Elf 'n' Safety Nazis. I'm thinking of taking a picture of it at the next game and send it in to Richard Littlejohn. Of course, I will have to get away with taking the picture in the first place! Its like on Mcdonalds coffee cups "Warning may contain hot liquid" - I bloody hope so!!! :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 When my kids were mascots for the Plymouth game last month, I was told that we could use a video camera up until kick off but we could take photos at any time. We took pictures of the game. All the steward near us said was "did you get me in the picture?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 Blame DataCo, the compnay responsible for the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 December, 2008 Share Posted 30 December, 2008 The irony is the problem isn't the club, its the fans. For example, if I got hit in the face with a football, breaking my nose and causing my male model career to stall, I could sue the club (where there's a blame there's a claim) for not warning me appropriately. The sign insulates against that. I agree it is ridiculous, but the blame lies with the litigious culture we live in, not the club. Or blame the court system that allows people to abuse the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 31 December, 2008 All well and good, but surely it should state on season tickets and match tickets that the taking of photo's are banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 31 December, 2008 Share Posted 31 December, 2008 All well and good, but surely it should state on season tickets and match tickets that the taking of photo's are banned. Except it is not banned, as I stated above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 31 December, 2008 Share Posted 31 December, 2008 (edited) All well and good, but surely it should state on season tickets and match tickets that the taking of photo's are banned. i thought that it does (or at least used to) list certain ground regulations on the backs of tickets, 1 of which being "photographic or audio/visual recording equipment is prohibited" , or something like that. (i could be wrong tho) i have a mate who's a steward and i asked him about this. he said that they were instructed before the last game to inform people that the taking of photos with a digital or professional looking camera (big lenses etc)during the match was prohibited......however, mobile phone cameras were acceptable , as the pictures are not really likely to be saleable..(is that a word?? ), and also pictures taken of friends/family were ok too... HTH x Edited 31 December, 2008 by saint boggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 1 January, 2009 Share Posted 1 January, 2009 The irony is the problem isn't the club, its the fans. For example, if I got hit in the face with a football, breaking my nose and causing my male model career to stall, I could sue the club (where there's a blame there's a claim) for not warning me appropriately. The sign insulates against that. I agree it is ridiculous, but the blame lies with the litigious culture we live in, not the club. Hurrah! Somebody else (besides me) who has seen through all the spin and bullship as to the real reason why the world is beset with apparently frivolous and barmy health and safety laws. And none more so than the Land of the Free. Organisations have to do this to protect themselves from people whose first reaction to anything untoward is to run (or rather limp in an over-exaggerated way) to their nearest ambulance-chasing lawyer to try and wheedle them some money. One of the great legacies handed to the world by the USA is No-win, No-fee legal action. It's a licence for every gimp with a grievance to try and extort money, aided by lawyers who have the ethics of a ****roach, and instead of showing these people the door of their office, gleefully join in the pursuit. Of course, as home of the hair-trigger litigator, the US is home of some of the all-time classic civil law claims. Best was the woman who sued the makers of Winnebagos (camper vans). She was injured after her van left the road and overturned while she was in the back making a cup of coffee. She claimed she had put the truck into Cruise Control on a long straight, highway, and nowhere was it explained to her that she still had to have her hands on the steering wheel. Now, all RVs have to carry an explanatory warning that putting your vehicle into Cruise Control does not mean you can go and prepare lunch in the back. As for the picture issue, somebody on here mentioned DataCo, and they are right to do so. DataCo was formed by the Premier and Football League to control and monitor the licensing of the football 'product'. One of the measures is to licence all those journalists who wish to cover professional football in England. Part of the reason for this is that any journalist who writes something counter to the interests of the product, can have their license revoked, thereby depriving them of their livelihood. A friend of mine wants to set himself up as a freelance sports journo, but he cannot get a license from DataCo unless he can provide copies of match reports of 30 games he has covered. Unfortunately, he cannot get 30 games to cover them becaue he doesn't have a license to gain admission...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 January, 2009 Share Posted 1 January, 2009 Hi Florida M, wasn't there also a case of a widow suing Cessna after her husband crashed his plane because he was drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 January, 2009 Share Posted 1 January, 2009 A lot of these cases will almostly certainly fail if they come to court. Often the litigants rely on being able to extort an out of court payment out of a company deperate to avoid the costs and bad publicity a case will bring, even if they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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