The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Share Posted 5 May, 2015 I agree, particularly when you consider that both teams have exactly the same player/managers and backroom staff as when we played in League 1. Lolz, fair point, but they will take time to adjust to the Prem and this year's Championship is no kind of indication of future success. We should expect to beat them home and away (albeit not on our current form). I am so incredibly annoyed that they managed to win the bloody title when we didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 May, 2015 Share Posted 5 May, 2015 Surman won the "player's player of the year" award and is an important cog in the machine. He knits it all together, rarely losses the ball and does an excellent job at covering the full backs when they fly forward. Very intelligent player tactically and positionally. We hear from Wolves, Norwich and of course Saints fans that he's an excellent Championship player but probably not good enough for the Prem. Well, I'm sure he will get a fair crack at it next season, and maybe we'll find out for sure either way. For 400k from Norwich, he's been superb business so far. I think the main criticism of him is that he's too one-paced, which means Prem matches just pass him by no matter how good he is tactically or positionally (or on the ball for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 5 May, 2015 Share Posted 5 May, 2015 OK so they're in the Prem now.Bet there are more Saints in B'mouth than Cherries fans in Southampton. The mayor there is a Saints fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 I imagine we're subsidising the wage. But whatever, they've achieved a great thing on far less resources than we had. Respect to them. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3069401/Bournemouth-promotion-comes-cost-Cherries-owner-Maxim-Demin-Premier-League-new-boys-announce-debt-21-5m.html "Interesting" article. Paints a slightly different picture. So a team that cost nothing to assemble has apparently cost the owner £25m to get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 I think the main criticism of him is that he's too one-paced, which means Prem matches just pass him by no matter how good he is tactically or positionally (or on the ball for that matter). So Prem matches would pass by Pirlo then? Cambiasso. Is he quick? I'll look out for him on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3069401/Bournemouth-promotion-comes-cost-Cherries-owner-Maxim-Demin-Premier-League-new-boys-announce-debt-21-5m.html "Interesting" article. Paints a slightly different picture. So a team that cost nothing to assemble has apparently cost the owner £25m to get promoted. errr............... sounds a bit like the sort of owner pompey would get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 You won't see him - he is too rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3069401/Bournemouth-promotion-comes-cost-Cherries-owner-Maxim-Demin-Premier-League-new-boys-announce-debt-21-5m.html "Interesting" article. Paints a slightly different picture. So a team that cost nothing to assemble has apparently cost the owner £25m to get promoted. Adkins net spend pre pre was circa £3m.... (this has probabbly reduced a lot thanks to the £10k we get everytime Ox plays ) You can add Fonte and Lambert to that if you wish but we hardly broke the bank to reach the prem under Adkins... Not compared to a lot of championship teams. God bless the academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 So Prem matches would pass by Pirlo then? Cambiasso. Is he quick? I'll look out for him on Saturday. It depends whether teams are able to accommodate their limitations and exploit their benefits and how far they're prepared to go to do that. Cambiasso has hardly set the world alight at Leicester, and played in 2 draws and 5 defeats in their 7 matches in Feb and March. Surman is neither Pirlo nor Cambiasso based on what I've seen so far and it's unlikely Howe would built a team around his deficiencies despite his upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3069401/Bournemouth-promotion-comes-cost-Cherries-owner-Maxim-Demin-Premier-League-new-boys-announce-debt-21-5m.html "Interesting" article. Paints a slightly different picture. So a team that cost nothing to assemble has apparently cost the owner £25m to get promoted. Based on the 2013-14 accounts. Who knows what he invested in the last season to actually get promoted. Still it will all be covered by the TV money next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 Based on the 2013-14 accounts. Who knows what he invested in the last season to actually get promoted. Still it will all be covered by the TV money next season. New TV deal is 2016/17, so they'll probably just be getting 4-5 years of enhanced parachute payments compared to the current amounts - though the 2015/16 prize/tv money will still probably cover the cost of the higher wages they're going to inherit. Will be interesting to see how QPR and Burnley do next season - I can see the former losing a lot of players despite the parachute money, and the latter hanging on to most of theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 For anyone old enough to remember the older Genisis, from Selling England by the Pound. It's the Battle of the New Forest, right outside your door! I can't get that song out of my head now. Maybe I'll change my user name to Liquid Len. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 For anyone old enough to remember the older Genisis, from Selling England by the Pound. It's the Battle of the New Forest, right outside your door! I can't get that song out of my head now. Maybe I'll change my user name to Liquid Len. As long as we don't expect the Northam to learn it, think it might be a bit hard to get going, and a bit long for them to memorise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 Surman won the "player's player of the year" award and is an important cog in the machine. He knits it all together, rarely losses the ball and does an excellent job at covering the full backs when they fly forward. Very intelligent player tactically and positionally. We hear from Wolves, Norwich and of course Saints fans that he's an excellent Championship player but probably not good enough for the Prem. Well, I'm sure he will get a fair crack at it next season, and maybe we'll find out for sure either way. For 400k from Norwich, he's been superb business so far. Was probably our best player the season we got rid of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 New TV deal is 2016/17, so they'll probably just be getting 4-5 years of enhanced parachute payments compared to the current amounts - though the 2015/16 prize/tv money will still probably cover the cost of the higher wages they're going to inherit. Will be interesting to see how QPR and Burnley do next season - I can see the former losing a lot of players despite the parachute money, and the latter hanging on to most of theirs. More interesting to see is which league QPR will be playing in (presuming they will be relegated) and whether they can avoid the £50m fine + a possible transfer embargo that more than likely is waiting for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 6 May, 2015 Share Posted 6 May, 2015 Was probably our best player the season we got rid of him That wasn't exactly difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 It was also the reason we "got rid of him" - because he was one of the few saleable assets left when we'd already sold pretty much anyone else. The sale of Surman was the day after the Pinnacle deal collapsed (1st July 2009). Kelvin was also half way out of the door as the club tried to find the money to keep operating, and the takeover was completed on 8th July, after the date on which the administrator had said he was going to wind the club up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 It was also the reason we "got rid of him" - because he was one of the few saleable assets left when we'd already sold pretty much anyone else. The sale of Surman was the day after the Pinnacle deal collapsed (1st July 2009). Kelvin was also half way out of the door as the club tried to find the money to keep operating, and the takeover was completed on 8th July, after the date on which the administrator had said he was going to wind the club up. back to hindsight again, but Nicola Cortese (remember him?).. said in an interview ...that the Liebherr bid was made in late May, but " ignored " by the Administrator...as there was a feeling at the club that SFC didn't want " a foreign owner " .....and MLT's efforts to promote the Pinnacle deal had won over many fans. As it was ....we got the best of the deal, but lost Dyer and Surman in the intervening period. (Two more Academy gradutes with some pedigree, incidentally.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 7 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They're at it again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 back to hindsight again, but Nicola Cortese (remember him?).. said in an interview ...that the Liebherr bid was made in late May, but " ignored " by the Administrator...as there was a feeling at the club that SFC didn't want " a foreign owner " .....and MLT's efforts to promote the Pinnacle deal had won over many fans. As it was ....we got the best of the deal, but lost Dyer and Surman in the intervening period. (Two more Academy gradutes with some pedigree, incidentally.) More than aware of that, still unsure why you continue with your ridiculous use of ellipses, bold and underlining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They're at it again... They'll have a great time and become everyone's 2nd favourite team but give it the large 'un all season to us... but will be relegated within a couple of seasons, money will disappear, buckets will be rattled again and no doubt, we'll see a mobility scooter or two in the centre circle. Stick this prediction down, that's Bournemouth's next two years summed up in a nutshell. Oh, and expect a Redknapp overload in the media whilst he not-so-quietly touts himself around as a replacement for Eddie "he should have played for England" Howe. So, yeah... don't throw your buckets away just yet, Cherries fans... you're going to need them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They're at it again... What a sad c*nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They'll have a great time and become everyone's 2nd favourite team but give it the large 'un all season to us... I must be very strange. I have no 2nd favourite team. Am I missing out on something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They're at it again... What is wrong with them? It's almost desperate how much they want us to care when we don't give a ****. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 They're at it again... Is that Lovern in the photo? Letting everyone know his head is already in Boscombe..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 7 May, 2015 Share Posted 7 May, 2015 More than aware of that, still unsure why you continue with your ridiculous use of ellipses, bold and underlining. Good.....................................................................................................................................................................Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 The realities of being a PL club kicking at Bournemouth AFC Bournemouth: Jeff Mostyn defends season ticket increase http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32792112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 The realities of being a PL club kicking at Bournemouth AFC Bournemouth: Jeff Mostyn defends season ticket increase http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32792112 The realities of it being that their matchday revenue will drop from about 50% of their revenue to about 10% of it because of tv income. They don't HAVE to raise ST prices, but at the same time, price of living and size of the ground means that's the sensible thing to do even though they don't really need the extra money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 The realities of it being that their matchday revenue will drop from about 50% of their revenue to about 10% of it because of tv income. They don't HAVE to raise ST prices, but at the same time, price of living and size of the ground means that's the sensible thing to do even though they don't really need the extra money. Happens at every club reach the PL hike up the ticket prices it's like night following day. Always helps to take the gloss of promotion to the big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Happens at every club reach the PL hike up the ticket prices it's like night following day. Always helps to take the gloss of promotion to the big time. Absolutely, but it's more a measure to allow for a price freeze if they drop back into the Championship, where that money is much more important overall. Fans have short memories and will be asking for a price drop on relegation even if they didn't have a price rise going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Am I missing something? Where is the achievement in parking near a ground and attaching a flag to a ladder? Neil Armstrong had a decent reason to look smug when he planted a flag, ditto the Russians when they entered Berlin, but a roofing company on a public highway? I'd be mildly impressed if a fan took a picture in another club's boardroom or even on their pitch, but in the street? And P.A.R. Roofing - you've just reduced your potential customer base by approx a third - so good luck when you tender for the next Staplewood contract! #tinpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Our "Saints scarf on the station sign" at Fratton on the way to Brighton away in 2011/12 was way more impressive, and the missus was responsible for that one. Plus a couple of Saints ST inside Fratton Park pics at recent Newport matches. Don't get me wrong, it's utterly lame though, we were going for the cheese factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 They're at it again... In no way do i condone us keeping the mobile number on the truck and texting him en masse when we slaughter them next season. IN NO WAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Absolutely, but it's more a measure to allow for a price freeze if they drop back into the Championship, where that money is much more important overall. Fans have short memories and will be asking for a price drop on relegation even if they didn't have a price rise going up. Fans have short memories but so do football clubs. They have capped their season tickets at 7000. They have put their prices up, on average, by about £100 if that BBC report is correct (600 to 687?). So they are making an extra £700,000 off season ticket sales whilst promotion to the Prem League is worth millions plus they have the security of the parachute payments for however many years that is now. 700k is a drop in the ocean compared with the TV money they will get alone. Yet the prize for those season ticket holders who have stuck with them through some pretty awful times, sat there through 0-0 draws against Richdale on a cold and wet November night is that they have to find an extra £100 per person. Great reward for your loyal support Bournemouth. i can see why they are doing it but it doesn't make it right. If they end up a one season wonder and do a Wigan or Swindon or Barnsley and slip back to Div 1 or 2 no doubt those loyal supporters will once again become very important to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Fans have short memories but so do football clubs. They have capped their season tickets at 7000. They have put their prices up, on average, by about £100 if that BBC report is correct (600 to 687?). So they are making an extra £700,000 off season ticket sales whilst promotion to the Prem League is worth millions plus they have the security of the parachute payments for however many years that is now. 700k is a drop in the ocean compared with the TV money they will get alone. Yet the prize for those season ticket holders who have stuck with them through some pretty awful times, sat there through 0-0 draws against Richdale on a cold and wet November night is that they have to find an extra £100 per person. Great reward for your loyal support Bournemouth. i can see why they are doing it but it doesn't make it right. If they end up a one season wonder and do a Wigan or Swindon or Barnsley and slip back to Div 1 or 2 no doubt those loyal supporters will once again become very important to them. And by then they'll have their money and be ready to hand out some more. Perfect strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 I once drove through the entire city of Portsmouth while blatantly displaying a Saints sticker on the back window of my car. I don't think they have ever forgotten THAT day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 I once drove through the entire city of Portsmouth while blatantly displaying a Saints sticker on the back window of my car. I don't think they have ever forgotten THAT day! No great achievement really, 90 or so percent of the PO postcode population can't read anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 Fans have short memories but so do football clubs. They have capped their season tickets at 7000. They have put their prices up, on average, by about £100 if that BBC report is correct (600 to 687?). So they are making an extra £700,000 off season ticket sales whilst promotion to the Prem League is worth millions plus they have the security of the parachute payments for however many years that is now. 700k is a drop in the ocean compared with the TV money they will get alone. Yet the prize for those season ticket holders who have stuck with them through some pretty awful times, sat there through 0-0 draws against Richdale on a cold and wet November night is that they have to find an extra £100 per person. Great reward for your loyal support Bournemouth. i can see why they are doing it but it doesn't make it right. If they end up a one season wonder and do a Wigan or Swindon or Barnsley and slip back to Div 1 or 2 no doubt those loyal supporters will once again become very important to them. But I would say an extra £100 is good value (even if for less games)when you consider next season they are seeing their team play saints, Chelsea, arsenal, man city man Utd etc instead of Rotherham wolves Brighton etc? Next season they will watch some world class talent ( and Liverpool, Sunderland and Watford too but let's not depress them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 No great achievement really, 90 or so percent of the PO postcode population can't read anyway. Oi, be careful when you insult the PO post code. You can say that against PO1-PO6 if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 19 May, 2015 Share Posted 19 May, 2015 In no way do i condone us keeping the mobile number on the truck and texting him en masse when we slaughter them next season. IN NO WAY Noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 They're at it again... Ya never know. Might be Saints fans. Cos they are our 2nd team, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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