AlexLaw76 Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 2 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Its just how I feel. All I'm saying is that it encompasses so much more than tv. People associate the fee too much with the tv element. There are not many ‘things’ (if any) done, created or produced at, or commissioned by, the BBC that is unique.
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: There are not many ‘things’ (if any) done, created or produced at, or commissioned by, the BBC that is unique. Fair enough if thats how you feel and your opinion.
badgerx16 Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 58 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: Its just how I feel. All I'm saying is that it encompasses so much more than tv. People associate the fee too much with the tv element. Maybe because it is called the TV Licence.
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 27 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Maybe because it is called the TV Licence. Ha, good point! 😁 2 1
Turkish Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: There are not many ‘things’ (if any) done, created or produced at, or commissioned by, the BBC that is unique. Peaky Blinders is one of them 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 10 hours ago, sadoldgit said: When I was a kid and there was only two then three channels they always used to put on great Christmas specials and keep the big films back for Christmas week. Pre video recorders there was always a big debate about what to watch. They don’t seem to bother too much now. Stuck in the past again. Get into the modern world man..
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 3 hours ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said: it would survive by dropping the very services people undervalue today—children’s education, local radio, cultural programming, and niche content If enough people want to watch it, they’ll pay for it, Why should the rest of us pony up for a load of old pony we don’t want to watch.
benjii Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: If enough people want to watch it, they’ll pay for it, Why should the rest of us pony up for a load of old pony we don’t want to watch. So that we have a public service broadcaster. 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 4 minutes ago, benjii said: So that we have a public service broadcaster. Ahh bless
The Kraken Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 7 minutes ago, benjii said: So that we have a public service broadcaster. Why is that so important, out of interest? In this day and age I’m not sure I see the necessity but I admit I’m willing to be convinced otherwise. Other than “we’ve always had one”.
benjii Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 I just answered his question. I don't have a strong view, other than the BBC seems miles better than most media organisations in the various places I have lived and worked 5
AlexLaw76 Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, benjii said: I just answered his question. I don't have a strong view, other than the BBC seems miles better than most media organisations in the various places I have lived and worked it's alright. Most of its content isn't particularly great, or ground breaking in any way. Edited 19 December, 2025 by AlexLaw76
The Kraken Posted 19 December, 2025 Posted 19 December, 2025 46 minutes ago, benjii said: I just answered his question. I don't have a strong view, other than the BBC seems miles better than most media organisations in the various places I have lived and worked I don’t disagree. But for me, that alone doesn’t justify the need for a public service broadcaster. I think the Beeb has done some wonderful things down the years, and still does. I don’t think anybody is suggesting scrapping the BBC. It’s just for this particular subject, I’m just yet to be convinced by the mandatory payment of the license given today’s reality of being able to stream (and pay for) so much worldwide content by individual choice.
sadoldgit Posted 20 December, 2025 Posted 20 December, 2025 13 hours ago, benjii said: So that we have a public service broadcaster. I also “pony up” for a load of rubbish I don’t want to watch on streaming channels. What did Springsteen say? 57 channels and nothing on. The BBC offers a great deal more choice across than many media organisations. I don’t think that anybody disagrees that there needs to be changes, but there will always be some who will find fault just because they hate the BBC. When I was growing up all I heard was that it was run by a bunch of “Commies” (“Pinkos” to some). Now all I hear is that it is run by those of the right! For all of its faults, this country has been better off for it.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 December, 2025 Posted 21 December, 2025 I heard an interesting interview with a veteran of bbc news dept who pretty much summed up how BBC news isnt impartial anymore. He said the politician who most suffered from the BBC bias was Corbyn , so before the “usual suspects” jump on him, (like they do when Andrew Neil criticised the beloved BBC or Starmer), he’s not some rabid “far right” bigot. He said journalists have the 5W’s taught to them early on in their careers. Who, what, when, where, & why. But until the 1980’s the BBC drummed into every journo, over and over, the “why” did not apply to them. The “why” was for other news organisations which didn’t have impartiality constraints, or current affairs people. He said during the 80’s, the whole agenda changed. The BBC then started thinking that explaining the “why” was actually part of their public service remit, they started to think educating the masses on the “why” was the role of a public service broadcaster, and this view is still held today. He concluded, once you attempt to explain the “why”, impartiality is impossible as unlike who, what, where & when, which are factual, it is an opinion subject to different interpretations ……
Winnersaint Posted 21 December, 2025 Posted 21 December, 2025 (edited) On 19/12/2025 at 21:19, AlexLaw76 said: it's alright. Most of its content isn't particularly great, or ground breaking in any way. Agreed, watch it far less these days than I used to. There is some good stuff on it still but opinion on that is a matter of taste. Any station peddling Mrs Brown's Boys needs to take a long hard look at itself. Edited 21 December, 2025 by Winnersaint
whelk Posted 26 December, 2025 Posted 26 December, 2025 Just got to love BBC’s denial on Christian persecution in Nigeria In essence, while general insecurity and resource conflicts play a significant role, the evidence from numerous human rights and Christian advocacy groups indicates that Christians in Nigeria face a distinct and severe form of persecution rooted in religious extremism and systemic discrimination It’s as if SOG’s cousin writing for BBC on US strikes:
east-stand-nic Posted 26 December, 2025 Posted 26 December, 2025 12 minutes ago, whelk said: Just got to love BBC’s denial on Christian persecution in Nigeria In essence, while general insecurity and resource conflicts play a significant role, the evidence from numerous human rights and Christian advocacy groups indicates that Christians in Nigeria face a distinct and severe form of persecution rooted in religious extremism and systemic discrimination It’s as if SOG’s cousin writing for BBC on US strikes: A bit like the mass denial on here about South Africa yes? Or, was that perhaps just silliness by most on here just because it was me who said it. Jeez. https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/60977-the-starmer-years-can-the-new-broom-sweep-clean/page/108/#comment-3526046 2
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2025 Posted 26 December, 2025 24 minutes ago, whelk said: Just got to love BBC’s denial on Christian persecution in Nigeria In essence, while general insecurity and resource conflicts play a significant role, the evidence from numerous human rights and Christian advocacy groups indicates that Christians in Nigeria face a distinct and severe form of persecution rooted in religious extremism and systemic discrimination It’s as if SOG’s cousin writing for BBC on US strikes: I’m looking forward to the update from the Romney Marsh Boxing Day Brunch where SOG sat next to a Nigerian Christian who confirmed what the BBC is saying to be true 1 1
Sir Ralph Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86vl5d8w47o BBC trying desperately not to describe the attacker other than secondary point Edited 31 December, 2025 by Sir Ralph 1
aintforever Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 30 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86vl5d8w47o BBC trying desperately not to accurately describe the attacker What do you want, a Pantone reference for his skin colour? 3
Sir Ralph Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 (edited) 11 minutes ago, aintforever said: What do you want, a Pantone reference for his skin colour? The status and background of the attacker is relevant in the current climate. The bbc is desperate to hide it in the text Edited 31 December, 2025 by Sir Ralph 1
aintforever Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 14 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: The status and background of the attacker is relevant in the current climate. The bbc is desperate to hide it in the text Obviously From the BBC: “Merseyside Police confirmed earlier that a 20-year-old man, living locally but originally from Afghanistan, had been detained under the Mental Health Act.” 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 23 minutes ago, aintforever said: What do you want, a Pantone reference for his skin colour? That would make colouring in my "People we don't want here" posters so much easier. 🙂 1 1
Sir Ralph Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 minute ago, aintforever said: Obviously From the BBC: “Merseyside Police confirmed earlier that a 20-year-old man, living locally but originally from Afghanistan, had been detained under the Mental Health Act.” As I said desperate to hide it in the text. 1
aintforever Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 Just now, Sir Ralph said: As I said desperate to hide it in the text. By writing it clearly, in the text. 4
Sir Ralph Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 Just now, aintforever said: By writing it clearly, in the text. This could go round and round. Have a good evening
egg Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 minute ago, aintforever said: By writing it clearly, in the text. Blimey. Bless him. Perhaps he needed it in bold. 1
aintforever Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said: This could go round and round. Have a good evening I really don’t get your point. Are just upset there was no, Daily Mail style, BROWN PERSON DOES SOMETHING BAD headline? 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 minute ago, egg said: Blimey. Bless him. Perhaps he needed it in bold. Yup. Not particularly hidden. Maybe I've missed all the headlines starting with "White person does.." that indicates all the Beeb's stories start off with the racial profiling that someone seems to think this one should have. 2
whelk Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 I think a damning indictment on Labour running the NHS. The Afghan was so enraged that his healthcare wasn’t up to the standard he is used to in his own country he went on a rampage. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 minute ago, whelk said: I think a damning indictment on Labour running the NHS. The Afghan was so enraged that his healthcare wasn’t up to the standard he is used to in his own country he went on a rampage. There's probably some quotes from Starmer supporting the NHS, when it's clearly his fault. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: That would make colouring in my "People we don't want here" posters so much easier. 🙂 Also in jest, you reminded this of this Little Britain sketch series which ran 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 31 December, 2025 Posted 31 December, 2025 1 hour ago, Gloucester Saint said: Also in jest, you reminded this of this Little Britain sketch series which ran I fell down a rabbit hole looking at old toys and adverts. What were we talking about? 🙂
Sir Ralph Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 5 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said: Also in jest, you reminded this of this Little Britain sketch series which ran Edited 14 hours ago by Sir Ralph
JohnnyShearer2.0 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 14 hours ago, Sir Ralph said: This could go round and round. Have a good evening. Brilliant, Sir R is usually all up for endless looping talking points.
Farmer Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Sir Ralph finishing the year as he spent the majority of the year, being made to look silly. Think there is a New Year's resolution in there for you somewhere Ralph. 2 1
sadoldgit Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, Sir Ralph said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86vl5d8w47o BBC trying desperately not to describe the attacker other than secondary point Even by your standards this is bizarre. Are you upset because the headline didn’t read “Woman Brutally Attacked By Man With Brown Skin?” It seems to me that the report is perfectly reasonable and there is zero attempt to cover anything up at all. You have to be a really desperate conspiracy theorist to claim otherwise. Please do better in 2026.
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