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[goodymatt]

1 hour ago, SW11_Saint said:

Anyone watching the new Birmingham City / Tom Brady documentary on Amazon Prime? 

They totally screwed up by hiring Rooney, but definitely seem to have it right with Chris Davies, he’s very impressive.

Reason for posting here… in the first episode they referenced “Trying to buy a PL club but we got messed around” - before turning their attention to Birmingham. In the back of my head this was maybe Sheff Utd, but I did wonder ‘it wasn’t us was it’?!

They have very big plans for Birmingham, including a new 62k stadium. 

 

 

I’ve started watching this and did wonder the same. When they bought Birmingham though, we were technically a championship team already. Appreciate negotiations for that club will have started whilst we were a PL team. I’d also guess Sheffield United was the one. I did google but nothing online about that attempt.

Davies comes across very well, impressive bloke. Rooney appeared to be winging it! Eustace sacking was ridiculous before the implosion. They will be up there with us this season for sure. I wonder what happens if they don’t reach the PL in the next couple of seasons, PSR must come into the equation soon.

[SaintsLoyal]

12 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Sums what up? That we recruited a man with a commercial background into a commercial role?

He wasn't employed to put the training cones out.

Commercial role ?. Ha ha 

[SaintsLoyal]

12 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

What did Parsons ever do to you?

Out of his depth being involved in football, incompetent decision making, just behind the worst season in the clubs history.

He hasn’t a clue about brand image.

’Commercial’ that’s someone else’s job and Parsons got none of the new local sponsors.

 

[CB Fry]

30 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Commercial role ?. Ha ha 

I don't think you have any idea what it is you're actually upset about.

 

[SW11_Saint]

23 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Out of his depth being involved in football, incompetent decision making, just behind the worst season in the clubs history.

He hasn’t a clue about brand image.

’Commercial’ that’s someone else’s job and Parsons got none of the new local sponsors.

 

He’s not involved in the football side is he? I’d say he’s done a pretty good job in increasing off-field revenue with the fanzones etc. 

[SW11_Saint]

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

I’ve started watching this and did wonder the same. When they bought Birmingham though, we were technically a championship team already. Appreciate negotiations for that club will have started whilst we were a PL team. I’d also guess Sheffield United was the one. I did google but nothing online about that attempt.

Davies comes across very well, impressive bloke. Rooney appeared to be winging it! Eustace sacking was ridiculous before the implosion. They will be up there with us this season for sure. I wonder what happens if they don’t reach the PL in the next couple of seasons, PSR must come into the equation soon.

Watching Rooney vs Davies it’s so crystal clear why Rooney is never going to make it as a manager. 

Echoes of Still in Davies too I thought, which gave me a bit of hope (focused coach rather than ex-player with a ‘been there’ mentality, clear-headed and analytical, but also tough and passionate). Definite sense there’s a new breed of coach entering the game now…

[Smirking_Saint]

15 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

He’s not involved in the football side is he? I’d say he’s done a pretty good job in increasing off-field revenue with the fanzones etc. 

To be fair, he was more involved last year, although should never have been in that position and without knowing it completely Id imagine that was more of a Kraft/Rasmus idea considering one got sacked and one sidelined

[SaintsLoyal]

Remember, i told you all that Parsons was all over the football side months before it was revealed by the athletic.

He can certainly talk a good game Mr Woking Reserve, but no evidence he has the minerals to be a PL standard CEO

 

 

 

[S-Clarke]

He's definitely done something to you personally, some weird bias going on between you and Parsons.

[SuperSAINT]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He's definitely done something to you personally, some weird bias going on between you and Parsons.

Sir James Dyson spends too much time on this forum 😜

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Sir James Dyson spends too much time on this forum 😜

Life's too short Mr Dyson. Suck it up, and move on.

[Convict Colony]

4 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Remember, i told you all that Parsons was all over the football side months before it was revealed by the athletic.

He can certainly talk a good game Mr Woking Reserve, but no evidence he has the minerals to be a PL standard CEO

 

 

 

Am pretty sure the CEO is checking the financials on the football side and where needed helping with any transfers.

Everything else will be driven by Spors with Still highlighting his preferences etc.

[Monk]

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

I assume they left Liverpool off so it would be a fairer competition?

[sockeye]

35 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

I think Wednesday fans would have something to say about that list...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

40 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

Dear clubs,

Even if it means getting thumped every week, step forward if you'd like a season of PL cash, then parachute pennies to transform your club.

[Nolan]

Dont know what the issue with Parsons here, hes been attributed many times with steering the sponsorships from local companies.

P & O CRUISES (that's not ferries, by the way), Starling, Draper, Bargate etc

That is one heck of a local companies contributing to Saints and earning reputation themselves.  

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Dont know what the issue with Parsons here, hes been attributed many times with steering the sponsorships from local companies.

P & O CRUISES (that's not ferries, by the way), Starling, Draper, Bargate etc

That is one heck of a local companies contributing to Saints and earning reputation themselves.  

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

[CB Fry]

10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

Must be a completely different Carnival UK that has a glass fronted head office in Southampton City Centre and therefore employing many local people and therefore some Saints fans.

The easily fooled can go to Harbour Parade and look at it. I can guarantee it is Carnival UK sponsoring Saints, not "Carnival Corporation based out of Florida". Local market activity.

Unfortunately the world is controlled by multinationals who eventually "base" themselves in tax havens etc. But that doesn't mean employers aren't "local" as they absolutely exist in the cities and towns where they employ people.

Unless you only want Saints to be sponsored by some Butchers shop on Shirley High Street.

[West end Saints]

52 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

UK Company House

CARNIVAL PLC

Company number 04039524

 CompanyOverviewfor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

 Filing historyfor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

 Peoplefor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

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Registered office address

Carnival House, 100 Harbour Parade, Southampton, Hampshire, United Kingdom, SO15 1ST

Also, 1,600 employees at their Southampton site - the biggest local company employer.

 

Very much a Southampton company.

On top of this tens of thousands of their customers visit Southampton each year.

I don't know what you define local company as??!

Edited Wednesday at 06:55 by West end Saints

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Must be a completely different Carnival UK that has a glass fronted head office in Southampton City Centre and therefore employing many local people and therefore some Saints fans.

The easily fooled can go to Harbour Parade and look at it. I can guarantee it is Carnival UK sponsoring Saints, not "Carnival Corporation based out of Florida". Local market activity.

Unfortunately the world is controlled by multinationals who eventually "base" themselves in tax havens etc. But that doesn't mean employers aren't "local" as they absolutely exist in the cities and towns where they employ people.

Unless you only want Saints to be sponsored by some Butchers shop on Shirley High Street.

All of that is correct, but Carnival UK is owned by Carnival Corporation and PLC, which is an American company.

If we were sponsored by Barclays would you then call that a 'local' company because they've got a branch on Above Bar St?

Like I said, 'nice sponsor to have nonetheless' and definitely a step up from a tinpot recruitment firm!

[Nolan]

"Local" means more than just who signs the ownership papers. P&O Cruises is headquartered in Southampton, employs over 1,600 locals, and brings tens of thousands of visitors to our port every year. That’s boots on the ground, money in the local economy, and a visible, ongoing presence in the community, including the sponsoring of the city’s football club.

If that doesn’t count as a local company, then the word’s lost all meaning.

[Saint86]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

What?!?! 1600 staff, uk head office, and a huge boost to the local economy / businesses. They're arguably the most beneficial single company for the city i would imagine...

Weston Super (having a mare) Saint? 😅



 

Edited Wednesday at 11:51 by Saint86

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

All of that is correct, but Carnival UK is owned by Carnival Corporation and PLC, which is an American company.

If we were sponsored by Barclays would you then call that a 'local' company because they've got a branch on Above Bar St?

Like I said, 'nice sponsor to have nonetheless' and definitely a step up from a tinpot recruitment firm!

If by "branch" you mean "huge glass fronted purpose build head office in the city centre employing one and a half thousand people" then yes. If by "branch" you mean one branch of a shop then obviously no of course not you idiot.

Keep working on those analogies, you've really got us on the ropes with your iron clad logic.

[Britannia]

My understanding of Carinival Corporation and PLC is that it is a complex set up.  Registered both on the London Stock Exchange and the New York Stock Exchange.  Both companies act as one.  So not technically an American company.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Corporation_%26_plc

The Southampton office is not a regional brand office as such but forms part of the whole company with the other being in Miami.  


 

 

[S-Clarke]

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

[spyinthesky]

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

[saintant]

Just now, spyinthesky said:

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

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[Miltonaggro]

On 06/08/2025 at 17:55, spyinthesky said:

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

The ferry operation now being operated by DP World explains a lot. We need to distance ourselves from that to maintain the family club image! 

[Miltonaggro]

On 06/08/2025 at 13:22, S-Clarke said:

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

Markedly different by the look of it…

[skintsaint]

On 06/08/2025 at 13:22, S-Clarke said:

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

Where does P&O Ferrymasters fit into all this?