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[goodymatt]

1 hour ago, SW11_Saint said:

Anyone watching the new Birmingham City / Tom Brady documentary on Amazon Prime? 

They totally screwed up by hiring Rooney, but definitely seem to have it right with Chris Davies, he’s very impressive.

Reason for posting here… in the first episode they referenced “Trying to buy a PL club but we got messed around” - before turning their attention to Birmingham. In the back of my head this was maybe Sheff Utd, but I did wonder ‘it wasn’t us was it’?!

They have very big plans for Birmingham, including a new 62k stadium. 

 

 

I’ve started watching this and did wonder the same. When they bought Birmingham though, we were technically a championship team already. Appreciate negotiations for that club will have started whilst we were a PL team. I’d also guess Sheffield United was the one. I did google but nothing online about that attempt.

Davies comes across very well, impressive bloke. Rooney appeared to be winging it! Eustace sacking was ridiculous before the implosion. They will be up there with us this season for sure. I wonder what happens if they don’t reach the PL in the next couple of seasons, PSR must come into the equation soon.

[SaintsLoyal]

12 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Sums what up? That we recruited a man with a commercial background into a commercial role?

He wasn't employed to put the training cones out.

Commercial role ?. Ha ha 

[SaintsLoyal]

12 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

What did Parsons ever do to you?

Out of his depth being involved in football, incompetent decision making, just behind the worst season in the clubs history.

He hasn’t a clue about brand image.

’Commercial’ that’s someone else’s job and Parsons got none of the new local sponsors.

 

[CB Fry]

30 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Commercial role ?. Ha ha 

I don't think you have any idea what it is you're actually upset about.

 

[SW11_Saint]

23 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Out of his depth being involved in football, incompetent decision making, just behind the worst season in the clubs history.

He hasn’t a clue about brand image.

’Commercial’ that’s someone else’s job and Parsons got none of the new local sponsors.

 

He’s not involved in the football side is he? I’d say he’s done a pretty good job in increasing off-field revenue with the fanzones etc. 

[SW11_Saint]

1 hour ago, goodymatt said:

I’ve started watching this and did wonder the same. When they bought Birmingham though, we were technically a championship team already. Appreciate negotiations for that club will have started whilst we were a PL team. I’d also guess Sheffield United was the one. I did google but nothing online about that attempt.

Davies comes across very well, impressive bloke. Rooney appeared to be winging it! Eustace sacking was ridiculous before the implosion. They will be up there with us this season for sure. I wonder what happens if they don’t reach the PL in the next couple of seasons, PSR must come into the equation soon.

Watching Rooney vs Davies it’s so crystal clear why Rooney is never going to make it as a manager. 

Echoes of Still in Davies too I thought, which gave me a bit of hope (focused coach rather than ex-player with a ‘been there’ mentality, clear-headed and analytical, but also tough and passionate). Definite sense there’s a new breed of coach entering the game now…

[Smirking_Saint]

15 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said:

He’s not involved in the football side is he? I’d say he’s done a pretty good job in increasing off-field revenue with the fanzones etc. 

To be fair, he was more involved last year, although should never have been in that position and without knowing it completely Id imagine that was more of a Kraft/Rasmus idea considering one got sacked and one sidelined

[SaintsLoyal]

Remember, i told you all that Parsons was all over the football side months before it was revealed by the athletic.

He can certainly talk a good game Mr Woking Reserve, but no evidence he has the minerals to be a PL standard CEO

 

 

 

[S-Clarke]

He's definitely done something to you personally, some weird bias going on between you and Parsons.

[SuperSAINT]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

He's definitely done something to you personally, some weird bias going on between you and Parsons.

Sir James Dyson spends too much time on this forum 😜

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, SuperSAINT said:

Sir James Dyson spends too much time on this forum 😜

Life's too short Mr Dyson. Suck it up, and move on.

[Convict Colony]

4 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

Remember, i told you all that Parsons was all over the football side months before it was revealed by the athletic.

He can certainly talk a good game Mr Woking Reserve, but no evidence he has the minerals to be a PL standard CEO

 

 

 

Am pretty sure the CEO is checking the financials on the football side and where needed helping with any transfers.

Everything else will be driven by Spors with Still highlighting his preferences etc.

[Monk]

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

I assume they left Liverpool off so it would be a fairer competition?

[sockeye]

35 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

I think Wednesday fans would have something to say about that list...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

40 minutes ago, Monk said:

According to the ever credible Sportbible and Skybet… we’re officially the ‘hardest done by fans’ in the country according to the latest research. 
 

Thanks to Russball, Dyson COO and Jason Wilcox.

 

Dear clubs,

Even if it means getting thumped every week, step forward if you'd like a season of PL cash, then parachute pennies to transform your club.

[Nolan]

Dont know what the issue with Parsons here, hes been attributed many times with steering the sponsorships from local companies.

P & O CRUISES (that's not ferries, by the way), Starling, Draper, Bargate etc

That is one heck of a local companies contributing to Saints and earning reputation themselves.  

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

Dont know what the issue with Parsons here, hes been attributed many times with steering the sponsorships from local companies.

P & O CRUISES (that's not ferries, by the way), Starling, Draper, Bargate etc

That is one heck of a local companies contributing to Saints and earning reputation themselves.  

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

[CB Fry]

10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

Must be a completely different Carnival UK that has a glass fronted head office in Southampton City Centre and therefore employing many local people and therefore some Saints fans.

The easily fooled can go to Harbour Parade and look at it. I can guarantee it is Carnival UK sponsoring Saints, not "Carnival Corporation based out of Florida". Local market activity.

Unfortunately the world is controlled by multinationals who eventually "base" themselves in tax havens etc. But that doesn't mean employers aren't "local" as they absolutely exist in the cities and towns where they employ people.

Unless you only want Saints to be sponsored by some Butchers shop on Shirley High Street.

[West end Saints]

52 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

Operated by Carnival UK, owned by Carnival Corporation & PLC, incorporated in Panama with headquarters in Florida doesn't scream 'local' to anyone but the easily fooled.

Nice sponsor to have nonetheless.

UK Company House

CARNIVAL PLC

Company number 04039524

 CompanyOverviewfor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

 Filing historyfor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

 Peoplefor CARNIVAL PLC (04039524)

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Registered office address

Carnival House, 100 Harbour Parade, Southampton, Hampshire, United Kingdom, SO15 1ST

Also, 1,600 employees at their Southampton site - the biggest local company employer.

 

Very much a Southampton company.

On top of this tens of thousands of their customers visit Southampton each year.

I don't know what you define local company as??!

Edited August 6 by West end Saints

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Must be a completely different Carnival UK that has a glass fronted head office in Southampton City Centre and therefore employing many local people and therefore some Saints fans.

The easily fooled can go to Harbour Parade and look at it. I can guarantee it is Carnival UK sponsoring Saints, not "Carnival Corporation based out of Florida". Local market activity.

Unfortunately the world is controlled by multinationals who eventually "base" themselves in tax havens etc. But that doesn't mean employers aren't "local" as they absolutely exist in the cities and towns where they employ people.

Unless you only want Saints to be sponsored by some Butchers shop on Shirley High Street.

All of that is correct, but Carnival UK is owned by Carnival Corporation and PLC, which is an American company.

If we were sponsored by Barclays would you then call that a 'local' company because they've got a branch on Above Bar St?

Like I said, 'nice sponsor to have nonetheless' and definitely a step up from a tinpot recruitment firm!

[Nolan]

"Local" means more than just who signs the ownership papers. P&O Cruises is headquartered in Southampton, employs over 1,600 locals, and brings tens of thousands of visitors to our port every year. That’s boots on the ground, money in the local economy, and a visible, ongoing presence in the community, including the sponsoring of the city’s football club.

If that doesn’t count as a local company, then the word’s lost all meaning.

[Saint86]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

P&O cruises is NOT a local company - they just happen to homeport a few of their cruise ships in Southampton.

What?!?! 1600 staff, uk head office, and a huge boost to the local economy / businesses. They're arguably the most beneficial single company for the city i would imagine...

Weston Super (having a mare) Saint? 😅



 

Edited August 6 by Saint86

[CB Fry]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

All of that is correct, but Carnival UK is owned by Carnival Corporation and PLC, which is an American company.

If we were sponsored by Barclays would you then call that a 'local' company because they've got a branch on Above Bar St?

Like I said, 'nice sponsor to have nonetheless' and definitely a step up from a tinpot recruitment firm!

If by "branch" you mean "huge glass fronted purpose build head office in the city centre employing one and a half thousand people" then yes. If by "branch" you mean one branch of a shop then obviously no of course not you idiot.

Keep working on those analogies, you've really got us on the ropes with your iron clad logic.

[Britannia]

My understanding of Carinival Corporation and PLC is that it is a complex set up.  Registered both on the London Stock Exchange and the New York Stock Exchange.  Both companies act as one.  So not technically an American company.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_Corporation_%26_plc

The Southampton office is not a regional brand office as such but forms part of the whole company with the other being in Miami.  


 

 

[S-Clarke]

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

[spyinthesky]

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

[saintant]

Just now, spyinthesky said:

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

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[Miltonaggro]

On 06/08/2025 at 17:55, spyinthesky said:

Re the local company debate.
Just to provide a little historical context, The Peninsular Steam Navigation Company was formed in 1837 by Arthur Anderson & Brodie McGhie  (both of Scottish descent) and three years later the company merged with the Peninsular Steam Navigation Company (P&O).
In 1840, the merged company started the first Deep Sea operation out of Southampton with freight & Passengers using the SS Tagus.
Arthur Anderson has a road named after him in Southampton.
So, to my mind, this means that the P&O company have strong links to the city, especially as the cruise side of P&O have used Southampton for their Office and Shipside business for decades. .
There has been some confusion, expressed by one or two on here with P&O Ferries who are now owned by DPWorld.
However P&O Ferries was originally part of the wider P&O Group back in the late 1960's and the company went onto to purchase European Ferries who owned Townsend Thoresen who many of us older members of this group will remember running services over to France from Southampton. 

The ferry operation now being operated by DP World explains a lot. We need to distance ourselves from that to maintain the family club image! 

[Miltonaggro]

On 06/08/2025 at 13:22, S-Clarke said:

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

Markedly different by the look of it…

[skintsaint]

On 06/08/2025 at 13:22, S-Clarke said:

I thought I'd stumbled back into the P&O thread again.

Have we figured out if P&O Ferries and P&0 cruises are different yet?

Where does P&O Ferrymasters fit into all this?

[AlexLaw76]

Any real difference now that Dragan has taken over the reins????

Nope, more shit from Sports Republic

[Nolan]

10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Any real difference now that Dragan has taken over the reins????

Nope, more shit from Sports Republic

Certainly no change from the bedwetters who cant even be patient enough to wait until the Transfer Window finishes.

[Mboto Gorge]

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Any real difference now that Dragan has taken over the reins????

Nope, more shit from Sports Republic

Yep. I think everyone knows deep down that we won’t fully return to being anything like a half successful club and make the most of our resources , until these clowns have fucked off. We’ve all seen enough now to know they aren’t suddenly going to become the opposite of what they’ve been so far, which is fucking hopeless in every aspect of running a football club.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Certainly no change from the bedwetters who cant even be patient enough to wait until the Transfer Window finishes.

They are dreadful owners, a moderately decent window, where it is largely stacked in our favour against our rivals, will not change that

[Mboto Gorge]

5 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Certainly no change from the bedwetters who cant even be patient enough to wait until the Transfer Window finishes.

Even if that’s somewhat true in isolation , we have heard this every year and every window under this lot: “let’s just wait to see what happens….oh we fucked up again”…..6 months later let’s wait to see how this pans out…..oh look we’ve bollocksed it up again.
 

It’s getting fucking tedious . we aren’t suddenly making season changing signings in the next week. We may make one signing who contributes, but that’ll be your lot. If we don’t get our main targets we will just fill 2-3 extra places with total dross from abroad, probably between the age of 18-21. These owners are incapable. 

Edited August 25 by Mboto Gorge

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

They are dreadful owners, a moderately decent window, where it is largely stacked in our favour against our rivals, will not change that

As things stand, a moderately decent window seems ambitious and beyond us.

They’ve got a week to amend that but on past performance it seems unlikely. 

[Nolan]

Stoke manager was obviously talking out of his arse when he said we had a fantastic squad. What do this people who get paid to do football for a living know.?

[Weston Super Saint]

3 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Stoke manager was obviously talking out of his arse when he said we had a fantastic squad. What do this people who get paid to do football for a living know.?

Did he say that after he took all 3 shiny points home with him?

If so, could he be giving a backhanded compliment to his own players - you know, good man management style?

[S-Clarke]

14 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Did he say that after he took all 3 shiny points home with him?

If so, could he be giving a backhanded compliment to his own players - you know, good man management style?

Just like Pep saying we're so beautiful, we play so beautiful, after he's beaten us 5-0.

It's pointless blowing smoke up peoples arse, we shouldn't fall for it.

If we had good players, why hasn't he tried to sign BBD, Archer or ABK?

Edited August 25 by S-Clarke

[Gloucester Saint]

23 minutes ago, Nolan said:

Stoke manager was obviously talking out of his arse when he said we had a fantastic squad. What do this people who get paid to do football for a living know.?

As @S-Clarke has said, he’s gone home with three easy points. And he’s going to big up what he’s just beaten for the confidence at Stoke. Basic psychology.

On your second question, 99.9% of this forum forgot more about football than Solak, Ankerson and Spors will ever learn. It’s called 40 years of watching the game with your eyes and using the data selectively to accompany, not being led by the nose on it.

[saintant]

SR has been an unmitigated disaster from the first day they took charge. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that they will suddenly morph into a management/executive group who have a clue how to run a successful football club. They stumble from one crisis to another and spout meaningless platitudes to keep the fans happy but, in truth, not one of those responsible for running the club fills me with any confidence. Maybe they are all in the wrong industry because that's how it comes across. Total incompetence again and again as we slide further into oblivion.

[Nolan]

I'm pretty sure that there is a 3 next to the P on the league table. 

Was everyone seriously anticipating we go through the season unbeaten?

We lost one game because we failed to take our chances

People need to get a grip

[Gloucester Saint]

Sooner SR are out of Southampton Football Club, the better for everyone it will be. 

[skintsaint]

45 minutes ago, Nolan said:

I'm pretty sure that there is a 3 next to the P on the league table. 

Was everyone seriously anticipating we go through the season unbeaten?

We lost one game because we failed to take our chances

People need to get a grip

Its quite amusing watching all the melts crying right now.

[Badger]

9 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Sooner SR are out of Southampton Football Club, the better for everyone it will be. 

Easy to say but not necessarily the case. Perhaps Chansiri will buy us when he’s finished winding up Sheffield Wednesday. 

[Badger]

I’m reserving judgment for another week as to Dragan’s judgement in bringing in Spors. But as I said on another thread at the moment Spors is leaning towards the Semmens/Ankersen end of the spectrum 

[Wade Garrett]

37 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Its quite amusing watching all the melts crying right now.

I’m not crying, just pissed off with the same old shite.

If that makes me a melt then so be it.  I wish I was big and tough like you.

[skintsaint]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

I wish I was big and tough like you.

You have to be supporting Saints.

[Gloucester Saint]

34 minutes ago, Badger said:

Easy to say but not necessarily the case. Perhaps Chansiri will buy us when he’s finished winding up Sheffield Wednesday. 

If they use the Dibling money and MF fee to pay off the Covid debt and sold a solvent club on an even footing, I’d prefer that to more of their junk coming in with more tossy marketing videos to disguise the stench. I’d actually respect them for something then.