Women’s Football

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, CylonKing said:

Utter bollocks! 😂

 

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

They were literally beat by the kids team

It’s happened twice actually.
 

The Swiss team lost 7-1 to an U15 team and the USA team when they were world champions lost to an U15 boys team

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/switzerland-alisha-lehmann-women-euros-boys-u15-team-974768-20250625

https://www.si.com/soccer/2023/11/10/carli-lloyd-confirms-uswnt-once-lost-team-15-year-old-boys
 

so not utter bollocks pal. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

I'd have thought losing 7 goals to an under 15 team isn't all down to comparative skill levels. Various sporting bodies have tests, even if just testosterone ones, to prevent unfair physical developments in women's sport. The U 15s will already be strong and fast simply down to biology.

Deciding to play such matches is going to attract lots of derisive comments. The scoreline, the age of the opponents, the implication of the women's skill. But the coaches aren't playing the games for that. The womens team's tactics are put to a hard test against a well trained side that has power and pace to close down passes more than playing against other women's teams would provide. It's a test of their own strength, stamina and fitness too. 

Imagine having access to train against teams with increased physical attributes. Think of the sharpness you'd take back into your own game. A lot of women's teams at club level would benefit from doing something similar.

If only there was a way this could be applied to our men's side. But our attackers get to run out against Cap'n Jack and Baz every day. 🙂

[The Kraken]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

 

It’s happened twice actually.
 

The Swiss team lost 7-1 to an U15 team and the USA team when they were world champions lost to an U15 boys team

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-news/switzerland-alisha-lehmann-women-euros-boys-u15-team-974768-20250625

https://www.si.com/soccer/2023/11/10/carli-lloyd-confirms-uswnt-once-lost-team-15-year-old-boys
 

so not utter bollocks pal. 

The second link points out the very obvious fact that 15 year olds playing for an academy are likely to be stronger and faster than the women’s side. A very basic comparison is sprinting, the times that top women in the world set in the 100m these days is comparable with those set by some 14 year olds and quite a few 15 year old boys.  Top women footballers *may* have a skill advantage but the speed and power disadvantage will outweigh that quickly. So it’s not really a controversial statement to point it out, it’s just biology.

As the interview shows, the USA player says herself: “Haha. They should beat us. Bigger, stronger, faster! Boys always gave us a run for our money! It was great prep.”

[Turkish]

13 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

The second link points out the very obvious fact that 15 year olds playing for an academy are likely to be stronger and faster than the women’s side. A very basic comparison is sprinting, the times that top women in the world set in the 100m these days is comparable with those set by some 14 year olds and quite a few 15 year old boys.  Top women footballers *may* have a skill advantage but the speed and power disadvantage will outweigh that quickly. So it’s not really a controversial statement to point it out, it’s just biology.

As the interview shows, the USA player says herself: “Haha. They should beat us. Bigger, stronger, faster! Boys always gave us a run for our money! It was great prep.”

Yep so a 15 year old boys academy team is a similar standard to an international women’s team, which was exactly my point 

[suewhistle]

This morning I had breakfast with my bestie in the shade of my apple trees. She hates football but is good enough to be one of the sponsors for my football team. 

I mentioned about the people who come onto these threads pointing out how 15 year old boys  etc etc, and she asked me why people who aren't interested make the effort to comment and comment negatively? She pointed out that she doesn't comment on things that don't interest her. 

I was able to point out that there aren't many that do, and they are well known on the forum for their particular hang ups..

[AlexLaw76]

53 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

This morning I had breakfast with my bestie in the shade of my apple trees. She hates football but is good enough to be one of the sponsors for my football team. 

I mentioned about the people who come onto these threads pointing out how 15 year old boys  etc etc, and she asked me why people who aren't interested make the effort to comment and comment negatively? She pointed out that she doesn't comment on things that don't interest her. 

I was able to point out that there aren't many that do, and they are well known on the forum for their particular hang ups..

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, suewhistle said:

This morning I had breakfast with my bestie in the shade of my apple trees. She hates football but is good enough to be one of the sponsors for my football team. 

I mentioned about the people who come onto these threads pointing out how 15 year old boys  etc etc, and she asked me why people who aren't interested make the effort to comment and comment negatively? She pointed out that she doesn't comment on things that don't interest her. 

I was able to point out that there aren't many that do, and they are well known on the forum for their particular hang ups..

Was the breakfast in Romney Marsh by any chance? 

[whelk]

Blokes who hate women’s football are always gay. Fact

[ChrisPY]

8 hours ago, Turkish said:

Yep so a 15 year old boys academy team is a similar standard to an international women’s team, which was exactly my point 

Your point shouldn’t be controversial because you’re stating a fact.
It’s just a bit of a weird fact to consistently state. 

Have you sat through previous Olympics watching Jess Ennis, Paula Radcliffe and Laura Trott, up in arms because they’d have been beaten by a 15 year old boy who has a biological advantage or have you appreciated them for being the best women in their (track and) field?

Enjoy it for what it is or ignore it if you have no interest. I think everyone’s clear that the male body is genetically faster, stronger and more powerful than the female body. 

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, ChrisPY said:

Your point shouldn’t be controversial because you’re stating a fact.
It’s just a bit of a weird fact to consistently state. 

Have you sat through previous Olympics watching Jess Ennis, Paula Radcliffe and Laura Trott, up in arms because they’d have been beaten by a 15 year old boy who has a biological advantage or have you appreciated them for being the best women in their (track and) field?

Enjoy it for what it is or ignore it if you have no interest. I think everyone’s clear that the male body is genetically faster, stronger and more powerful than the female body. 

There isn’t this endless promotion of athletics, for example, as being equal it isn’t. with competitors demanding equal pay.

The we do the same job argument is just  nonsensical, Gordon Ramsey and a chef at the local pub both do the same job but you don’t see them demanding equal pay. same with football 

I’ve quite enjoyed a few women’s games over time but it’s ruined by the hype around it. When the England women’s team won the euros the “send a woman to do a man’s job” bollocks etc. 

You’re right let’s enjoy it for what it is, a pretty low standard minority sport that is simply incomparable to the men’s game. Which also means stop Hype about it and comparing it to the men’s game when it suits them. I enjoyed it when they won the euros. We were on holiday and went to a pub to watch it and cheered them on. However to then claim they’ve outdone the men’s team doesn’t do it any favours at all.

Edited Saturday at 19:06 by Turkish

[ChrisPY]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

There isn’t this endless promotion of athletics, for example, as being equal it isn’t. with competitors demanding equal pay.

The we do the same job argument is just  nonsensical, Gordon Ramsey and a chef at the local pub both do the same job but you don’t see them demanding equal pay. same with football 

I’ve quite enjoyed a few women’s games over time but it’s ruined by the hype around it. When the England women’s team won the euros the “send a woman to do a man’s job” bollocks etc. 

You’re right let’s enjoy it for what it is, a pretty low standard minority sport that is simply incomparable to the men’s game. Which also means stop Hype about it and comparing it to the men’s game when it suits them. I enjoyed it when they won the euros. We were on holiday and went to a pub to watch it and cheered them on. However to then claim they’ve outdone the men’s team doesn’t do it any favours at all.

I pretty much agree with this but viewing figures, financial losses etc. will naturally start to level things out in the same way as if your pub chef started charging Gordon Ramsay prices.

Derision of the sport will only create animosity from those currently involved that slows that process as they ‘fight back’ or a reluctance of involvement from those who could improve it.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, ChrisPY said:

I pretty much agree with this but viewing figures, financial losses etc. will naturally start to level things out in the same way as if your pub chef started charging Gordon Ramsay prices.

Derision of the sport will only create animosity from those currently involved that slows that process as they ‘fight back’ or a reluctance of involvement from those who could improve it.

A lot of the derision is self inflicted. If, as you say, they let people enjoy it for what it is then I’d expect it’d actually be more popular. A while back I saw a list of top England goalscorers with Ellen White in there somewhere between Alan Shearer and Wayne Rooney, so it’s alright to do that but when it’s pointed out the low level of the women’s game compared to men’s you get accused of derision. In all other sports women’s and men’s versions of the game are kept separate but for some reason when it comes to football there is this desperation for it to be seen as equal and everyone should get on board with how great it is. 

[Saint_clark]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

A lot of the derision is self inflicted. If, as you say, they let people enjoy it for what it is then I’d expect it’d actually be more popular. A while back I saw a list of top England goalscorers with Ellen White in there somewhere between Alan Shearer and Wayne Rooney, so it’s alright to do that but when it’s pointed out the low level of the women’s game compared to men’s you get accused of derision. In all other sports women’s and men’s versions of the game are kept separate but for some reason when it comes to football there is this desperation for it to be seen as equal and everyone should get on board with how great it is. 

The comparison ridiculousness reached peak hilarity in the last womens Euros when it looked like Ellen White was going to end up with more goals than Kane or Rooney, whoever was top at the time. The broadcasters kept listing both the mens and womens top scorers together and talking about her becoming the all time top England goalscorer. 

Then she never took the top spot, so they pivoted to calling her "all time England womens top scorer" and not listing the men anymore. 

 

I do think the push you're describing to see them both as equal has died off a little the last couple of years. Womens football has never been more popular in this country and attendances still aren't any better than league one level, bar the top WSL sides and even then not regularly. And they can't blame men for it, there are more women than men in this country - so they're letting themselves down. 

[Fabrice29]

God I really hope a few of you don’t have daughters 🤣 ‘enjoy your sport but just remember the boys are better at it so don’t get too ahead of yourself and definitely don’t try to promote it’

Edited Sunday at 08:24 by Fabrice29

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

God I really hope a few of you don’t have daughters 🤣 ‘enjoy your sport but just remember the boys are better at it so don’t get too ahead of yourself and definitely don’t try to promote it’

More bollocks from you. 

[Fabrice29]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

More bollocks from you. 

 

14 hours ago, Turkish said:

Which also means stop Hype about it

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

God I really hope a few of you don’t have daughters 🤣 ‘enjoy your sport but just remember the boys are better at it so don’t get too ahead of yourself and definitely don’t try to promote it’

Exactly, my daughter got into football after the last Euros, I think it’s great that it is getting promoted so much. 

Men are better at pretty much all sport but you don’t see female tennis players or athletes getting the same stick. Football has always had this weird macho thing attached to it.

Edited Sunday at 10:05 by aintforever

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Exactly, my daughter got into football after the last Euros, I think it’s great that it is getting promoted so much. 

Men are better at pretty much all sport but you don’t see female tennis players or athletes getting the same stick. Football has always had this weird macho thing attached to it.

Unsurprisingly you miss the point 

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

More bollocks from you

[Fabrice29]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

More bollocks from you

Keep making yourself feel better by telling everyone how you like boys more than girls hun.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Keep making yourself feel better by telling everyone how you like boys more than girls hun.

What a weird way of looking at it 

[CB Fry]

4 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Keep making yourself feel better by telling everyone how you like boys more than girls hun.

.....aaaand now we're into a weird homophobia.

 

[Fabrice29]

28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What a weird way of looking at it 

One of the first posts in this thread is you 3 years ago laughing at the idea of people enjoying womens football and dismissing the idea that they should have a certain amount of media coverage. Rather than ignore the thing you don't like, you continue to make the same point 3 years later, on a semi regular basis. I can only assume it makes you feel good to continue to make that point because there doesn't appear to be any other motive behind it?

[trousers]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

One of the first posts in this thread is you 3 years ago laughing at the idea of people enjoying womens football and dismissing the idea that they should have a certain amount of media coverage. Rather than ignore the thing you don't like, you continue to make the same point 3 years later, on a semi regular basis. I can only assume it makes you feel good to continue to make that point because there doesn't appear to be any other motive behind it?

Yeah, people that repeat stuff all the time on here are very annoying...

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

One of the first posts in this thread is you 3 years ago laughing at the idea of people enjoying womens football and dismissing the idea that they should have a certain amount of media coverage. Rather than ignore the thing you don't like, you continue to make the same point 3 years later, on a semi regular basis. I can only assume it makes you feel good to continue to make that point because there doesn't appear to be any other motive behind it?

So we’ve moved on from some sort of gay fetish where I’m preferring boys to girls to it giving me some sort of self satisfaction, struggling here aren’t you. 

[Fabrice29]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

So we’ve moved on from some sort of gay fetish where I’m preferring boys to girls to it giving me some sort of self satisfaction, struggling here aren’t you. 

 

1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said:

Keep making yourself feel better by telling everyone how you like boys more than girls hun.

 

26 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

One of the first posts in this thread is you 3 years ago laughing at the idea of people enjoying womens football and dismissing the idea that they should have a certain amount of media coverage. Rather than ignore the thing you don't like, you continue to make the same point 3 years later, on a semi regular basis. I can only assume it makes you feel good to continue to make that point because there doesn't appear to be any other motive behind it?

No moving on here. Go speak to a therapist about it, or your daughter if you have one.

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

 

 

No moving on here. Go speak to a therapist about it, or your daughter if you have one.

About what? 

[sadoldgit]

20 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Was the breakfast in Romney Marsh by any chance? 

Genocide apologist, Islamophobe, misogynist and now an internet stalker. Do your family know what you do behind closed doors?

[M271]

I sometimes watch home nations Women’s Football or Cricket if there’s nothing else on. Being a Sky sports subscriber with Test Cricket and F1 and with other free to air sports like Wimbledon and Tour de France on at the moment my appetite for a sports fix with these Women’s Euros is very low. I can understand those who only have access to free to air sport might be more attracted to the current Euros.

[Badger]

22 hours ago, suewhistle said:

This morning I had breakfast with my bestie in the shade of my apple trees. She hates football but is good enough to be one of the sponsors for my football team. 

I mentioned about the people who come onto these threads pointing out how 15 year old boys  etc etc, and she asked me why people who aren't interested make the effort to comment and comment negatively? She pointed out that she doesn't comment on things that don't interest her. 

I was able to point out that there aren't many that do, and they are well known on the forum for their particular hang ups..

Not wishing to detract from your main point but I’ve previously read comments about our support not being raucous enough and sometimes considered ‘too middle class’. This might be exemplified by your opening gambit.

I bet such a sentence probably hasn’t appeared in the memoirs of an ICF or other ‘top firm’  insider. 
 

 

[Turkish]

23 hours ago, suewhistle said:

This morning I had breakfast with my bestie in the shade of my apple trees. She hates football but is good enough to be one of the sponsors for my football team. 

I mentioned about the people who come onto these threads pointing out how 15 year old boys  etc etc, and she asked me why people who aren't interested make the effort to comment and comment negatively? She pointed out that she doesn't comment on things that don't interest her. 

I was able to point out that there aren't many that do, and they are well known on the forum for their particular hang ups..

Why would you be discussing posts on a football forum, some of which made by people you have on ignore, with a friend of yours who hates football? Seems an odd way to spend breakfast in the shade of the Apple trees, as wonderful an image it might conjure up in one’s minds-eye 

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

Exactly, my daughter got into football after the last Euros, I think it’s great that it is getting promoted so much. 

Men are better at pretty much all sport but you don’t see female tennis players or athletes getting the same stick. Football has always had this weird macho thing attached to it.

It is weird isn’t it? Does it happen with women’s rugby? I’ve not seen the same reaction in that sport. Women’s sports have the same rights to be promoted as men’s sports and if you don’t like any of them, don’t watch them. It’s really not difficult.

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

It is weird isn’t it? Does it happen with women’s rugby? I’ve not seen the same reaction in that sport. Women’s sports have the same rights to be promoted as men’s sports and if you don’t like any of them, don’t watch them. It’s really not difficult.

oh dear SOG another one jumping on the thread missing the point. Didn’t take you long to revert to type though. Were you gutted no one mentioned you on your little break, gotta hurt 

Edited Sunday at 12:22 by Turkish

[Saint_clark]

2 hours ago, aintforever said:

Exactly, my daughter got into football after the last Euros, I think it’s great that it is getting promoted so much. 

Men are better at pretty much all sport but you don’t see female tennis players or athletes getting the same stick. Football has always had this weird macho thing attached to it.

The tennis discussion has gone quiet but when the prize money was equalised there was a lot of noise that the women should be playing best of 5 sets instead of 3 as they're now technically getting paid more for their time than the men.

[Saint_clark]

4 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

God I really hope a few of you don’t have daughters 🤣 ‘enjoy your sport but just remember the boys are better at it so don’t get too ahead of yourself and definitely don’t try to promote it’

Seriously hope you're not referring to me, I've been a supporter of the women's game for longer than most and regularly tell people who come in here just to criticise to bore off, I just don't see the point in pretending it's something it's not. The overhyping and trying to make out it's the same level of quality as the men's actually ends up turning off a lot of people who would otherwise be more than willing to give it a go; like Turkish for example. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

17 hours ago, Turkish said:

There isn’t this endless promotion of athletics, for example, as being equal it isn’t. with competitors demanding equal pay.

The we do the same job argument is just  nonsensical, Gordon Ramsey and a chef at the local pub both do the same job but you don’t see them demanding equal pay. same with football 

I’ve quite enjoyed a few women’s games over time but it’s ruined by the hype around it. When the England women’s team won the euros the “send a woman to do a man’s job” bollocks etc. 

You’re right let’s enjoy it for what it is, a pretty low standard minority sport that is simply incomparable to the men’s game. Which also means stop Hype about it and comparing it to the men’s game when it suits them. I enjoyed it when they won the euros. We were on holiday and went to a pub to watch it and cheered them on. However to then claim they’ve outdone the men’s team doesn’t do it any favours at all.

Much like the men's football, I just skip all the hype. I'm either at a game. Or, I tune in 2 mins before, maybe get the teams without going to the Beeb, go for a tea at half time, and turn off at full time. MotD or Sky is seeing the action, and not the punditry.

Even then, the hyperbole around football is irritating. All football. The massive overegging on Women's football by comparing records with the men's teams, just got people's backs up.

But that's on the hacks, scribblers, pundits and broadcasters who go overboard to get clicks, views and sales.

So you're right. Let's enjoy it for what it is.

Those under-15's results would be indicative of higher scorelines had a Women's team played against that club's senior team, or a CL winning team, or any team (even the ones we put out to get thumped 9-0).

But that's not enjoying women's football for what it is. That's done for helping the training of the women's team, in a way that football can provide where other sports where there would be a similar gender disparity can't.

Leaving the hype behind, makes it much easier to enjoy it for what it is.

I'll generally watch women's football for the same reasons I watch any game. Two teams at a broadly similar level, competing.

I don't watch lots of lower league football, comparing it to higher leagues. I enjoy it for what it is.

Women's football then has advantages. The difference in strength and power emphasises strengths in other areas. In a recent Spain v England friendly, both sides were using the extra space to put together superb passing moves. Positioning, passing and anticipation become more important, as physical power isn't the same. I enjoy seeing the game played differently.

I still love the lack of feigning injury, no time wasting and zero tolerance to badgering the ref (apologies to all Badger related user names)

Just making some general points there, as I know you enjoyed England in the last Euros, and said as much above.

And yes, the hype became daft when it moved from embracing the game for what it was into making ridiculous comparisons. If it was like for like you'd argue why it was taking up space in the football sections of websites. But when enjoyed for what is is, like loads like women's tennis, golf etc, then it's fine.

[Badger]

10 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I still love the lack of feigning injury, no time wasting and zero tolerance to badgering the ref (apologies to all Badger related user names)

Just making some general points 

Must admit the prospect of ‘badgering’ one or two of the refs/assistant refs would have greatly appealed to me in my much younger days. 
 

Agree with many of the points you make. 

[Badger]

11 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Much like the men's football, I just skip all the hype. I'm either at a game. Or, I tune in 2 mins before, maybe get the teams without going to the Beeb, go for a tea at half time, and turn off at full time. MotD or Sky is seeing the action, and not the punditry.

Even then, the hyperbole around football is irritating. All football. The massive overegging on Women's football by comparing records with the men's teams, just got people's backs up.

But that's on the hacks, scribblers, pundits and broadcasters who go overboard to get clicks, views and sales.

So you're right. Let's enjoy it for what it is.

Those under-15's results would be indicative of higher scorelines had a Women's team played against that club's senior team, or a CL winning team, or any team (even the ones we put out to get thumped 9-0).

But that's not enjoying women's football for what it is. That's done for helping the training of the women's team, in a way that football can provide where other sports where there would be a similar gender disparity can't.

Leaving the hype behind, makes it much easier to enjoy it for what it is.

I'll generally watch women's football for the same reasons I watch any game. Two teams at a broadly similar level, competing.

I don't watch lots of lower league football, comparing it to higher leagues. I enjoy it for what it is.

Women's football then has advantages. The difference in strength and power emphasises strengths in other areas. In a recent Spain v England friendly, both sides were using the extra space to put together superb passing moves. Positioning, passing and anticipation become more important, as physical power isn't the same. I enjoy seeing the game played differently.

I still love the lack of feigning injury, no time wasting and zero tolerance to badgering the ref (apologies to all Badger related user names)

Just making some general points there, as I know you enjoyed England in the last Euros, and said as much above.

And yes, the hype became daft when it moved from embracing the game for what it was into making ridiculous comparisons. If it was like for like you'd argue why it was taking up space in the football sections of websites. But when enjoyed for what is is, like loads like women's tennis, golf etc, then it's fine.

Agree with this.

It’s pointless making comparisons with the mens game. I don’t watch a lot of the woman’s football, and in truth don’t watch a lot of the mens, except Saints or a team I’ve got an interest in. When I have seen the England womens team I was surprised by some of the tackles going in, and in fairness they seem to put their all into it (contrast Rooney coming off the field for England criticising supporters). 
 

The coverage pisses me off, but that is the same for the blokes game, and a reflection on the media rather than anything else. 
 

We can say the standard isn’t the same, especially goalkeeping. But we’re used to substandard GK’s at Saints anyway. 

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Much like the men's football, I just skip all the hype. I'm either at a game. Or, I tune in 2 mins before, maybe get the teams without going to the Beeb, go for a tea at half time, and turn off at full time. MotD or Sky is seeing the action, and not the punditry.

Even then, the hyperbole around football is irritating. All football. The massive overegging on Women's football by comparing records with the men's teams, just got people's backs up.

But that's on the hacks, scribblers, pundits and broadcasters who go overboard to get clicks, views and sales.

So you're right. Let's enjoy it for what it is.

Those under-15's results would be indicative of higher scorelines had a Women's team played against that club's senior team, or a CL winning team, or any team (even the ones we put out to get thumped 9-0).

But that's not enjoying women's football for what it is. That's done for helping the training of the women's team, in a way that football can provide where other sports where there would be a similar gender disparity can't.

Leaving the hype behind, makes it much easier to enjoy it for what it is.

I'll generally watch women's football for the same reasons I watch any game. Two teams at a broadly similar level, competing.

I don't watch lots of lower league football, comparing it to higher leagues. I enjoy it for what it is.

Women's football then has advantages. The difference in strength and power emphasises strengths in other areas. In a recent Spain v England friendly, both sides were using the extra space to put together superb passing moves. Positioning, passing and anticipation become more important, as physical power isn't the same. I enjoy seeing the game played differently.

I still love the lack of feigning injury, no time wasting and zero tolerance to badgering the ref (apologies to all Badger related user names)

Just making some general points there, as I know you enjoyed England in the last Euros, and said as much above.

And yes, the hype became daft when it moved from embracing the game for what it was into making ridiculous comparisons. If it was like for like you'd argue why it was taking up space in the football sections of websites. But when enjoyed for what is is, like loads like women's tennis, golf etc, then it's fine.

Yep this is true. It’s funny what some of the divs on here are saying I’ve probably done more to support girls football at grassroots in the last 3 months than they’ve done in their lifetimes but the usual helmets don’t really get the point and instead make silly comments and invent breakfast chats with their pals to back up their opinion

i said on other threads before that at U11s and below some of the girls are as good as if not better than the boys and technically very good but they get overtaken as they get older 

The whole point of this bit of the discussion is that men’s and women’s football at top level are eons apart, putting Ellen White in a list of top England goalscorers is ridiculous, they might as well put the kids in there as well if they’re going to do that. 
 

enjoy it for what it is, like tennis, like athletics etc stop trying to compare them, appreciate what they do. It’s the ridiculous stuff by the media trying to make it something it’s not, SOG is right you don’t get it in other sports, but not quite how he meant it. 

[suewhistle]

Well, just on here to remind you of tonight's game! 😉 I'll be down the pub with an outside TV, with a few team mates, so we'll probably get bitten by mozzies.

I could have been upset with Alex for not believing me, but instead had a good laugh as he illustrated my point so perfectly.. As my friend said just now, don't get involved, but I do wonder what his triggers are? The apple tree? The sponsorship? Her having an opinion?

Football encompasses so many levels, from grassroots with £35 a month subs, through the leagues to teams like Eastleigh and upwards. There may be some top pros who don't enjoy it but the rest of us will carry on playing or watching their mates in a pub team etc, and the sex of who is playing will only be an issue for a few sad people and the even fewer who need to be critical on online forums.

 

 

 

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

Well, just on here to remind you of tonight's game! 😉 I'll be down the pub with an outside TV, with a few team mates, so we'll probably get bitten by mozzies.

I could have been upset with Alex for not believing me, but instead had a good laugh as he illustrated my point so perfectly.. As my friend said just now, don't get involved, but I do wonder what his triggers are? The apple tree? The sponsorship? Her having an opinion?

Football encompasses so many levels, from grassroots with £35 a month subs, through the leagues to teams like Eastleigh and upwards. There may be some top pros who don't enjoy it but the rest of us will carry on playing or watching their mates in a pub team etc, and the sex of who is playing will only be an issue for a few sad people and the even fewer who need to be critical on online forums.

 

 

 

Another friend you’ve been discussing a football forum with? Wow, you seem to spend an awful lot of time talking about posters on saintsweb to people who don’t care about football 😂😂😂😂

[Sheaf Saint]

Superb performance from England so far this evening. They're a joy to watch when playing like this. I know Wales are a poor side but some of England's attacking play has been outstanding, and it could/should be more than 4-0.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

I was hoping Rowe would blast that one in before half time.

A dominating performance, against the tournament underdogs.

Bronze pushing forward, shifts England to a 3. But James is comfortable in that whole area to the right. So, as the half progressed, Bronze supported all over the pitch.

James is playing within herself (possibly resulting in that miss before halftime) but just makes England so fluid. It's balanced with with the two excellent, but more traditional roles filled by Hemp and Russo. Toone had an early impact, but such is the dominance, has again done a quieter, supporting role, popping up with key runs and passes.

It's a shame that the first goal wasn't even a free kick, and yet ended up being a penalty. While it looked initially to be a foul, Stanway tripped over herself. The VAR check had to have seen that. I can only guess they then only looked at the position of the incident, rather than whether it was a foul, and determined it to be in the box.

Wales' heads didn't go down, but it had to knock confidence from them. They changed 'keepers after some defensive issues, but that continued for the second. A d their defender could have done better for the third.

England created other chances, but it was Wales who ended the half well. Hopefully, they'll continue to test England. As it stands England get Germany, and if past that, Spain.

[saintant]

28 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I was hoping Rowe would blast that one in before half time.

A dominating performance, against the tournament underdogs.

Bronze pushing forward, shifts England to a 3. But James is comfortable in that whole area to the right. So, as the half progressed, Bronze supported all over the pitch.

James is playing within herself (possibly resulting in that miss before halftime) but just makes England so fluid. It's balanced with with the two excellent, but more traditional roles filled by Hemp and Russo. Toone had an early impact, but such is the dominance, has again done a quieter, supporting role, popping up with key runs and passes.

It's a shame that the first goal wasn't even a free kick, and yet ended up being a penalty. While it looked initially to be a foul, Stanway tripped over herself. The VAR check had to have seen that. I can only guess they then only looked at the position of the incident, rather than whether it was a foul, and determined it to be in the box.

Wales' heads didn't go down, but it had to knock confidence from them. They changed 'keepers after some defensive issues, but that continued for the second. A d their defender could have done better for the third.

England created other chances, but it was Wales who ended the half well. Hopefully, they'll continue to test England. As it stands England get Germany, and if past that, Spain.

As it stands England get Sweden.

[Badger]

17 minutes ago, saintant said:

As it stands England get Sweden.

Shame as they were impressive the other night. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

A much quieter second half, even though England got another 2.

There were different tests. To see if England could break down a reorganised Wales, and to test that the strength and depth of the squad could still produce results.

Wiegman's first eleven is a balanced shape and she makes her subs well. But there were still things worth looking at.

Park isn't quite at Toone's level of influence. And with Hemp off, Mead and James offered two similar outlets.

Wiegman returned to the earlier balance of bringing on more direct Kelly for James, and like for like with Beaver-Jones for Russo.

England push Bronze up, which isn't so useful with Kelly on that side. When Wales scored, Wiegman immediately switched Bronze for Charles. That might have been coming anyway, but brought fresh legs on to bring some solidity.

The Wales goal involved an absolutely cracking run and assist from Fishlock, and a good finish from Cain. It's always a shame that we're seeing talents at the end of their careers, just as Women's football is progressing so far.

Mead took her goal really well from a Beaver-Jones assist, and the two reversed for Beaver-Jones' header. Both made sure to get their efforts on target, with nothing rash.

England will look to those moments when they are pressed, or caught on the counter. It asks a lot from Bronze to run the length of the park to support attack and defence, and there are gaps when others cover. 

That's something to watch against Sweden. They make good use of the width for passes in behind, driving runs and crosses.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Shame as they were impressive the other night. 

Might be worth watching Swedish birds are fit

[Lord Duckhunter]

[swannymere]

I see the usual suspects are on here posturing about how bad women's football is, like a bunch or third rate clarkson impersonators. So predictable.

[Turkish]

i see the usual suspects are getting upset about how low level womens football is, like a feminist with sand in their knickers. So predictable.