Tyler Dibling

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

2 hours ago, Coastal said:

Excellent and thought provoking post pal.

Dibbers is simply not worth the fee our board are holding him ransom for and we run the risk of losing him on the cheap next summer which is barking mad.

We should have snatched Everton's hands at £35m with add ons and put a sell on clause in for good measure.

That kind of cash could help us bring in 3 good signings to push us on this season. The squad needs bolstering yet some fans want us to hold onto a lad who didnt want to know 2nd half of last season when the going got tough.

Even by Scouse standards, you're extremely weird.

[Chez]

2 hours ago, Coastal said:

Dibbers is simply not worth the fee our board are holding him ransom for and we run the risk of losing him on the cheap next summer which is barking mad.

We should have snatched Everton's hands at £35m with add ons and put a sell on clause in for good measure.

That kind of cash could help us bring in 3 good signings to push us on this season. The squad needs bolstering yet some fans want us to hold onto a lad who didnt want to know 2nd half of last season when the going got tough.

May I suggest you pop along to the Burnley forum. They can probably give you some tips about freeing hostages.

[Willo of Whiteley]

I think most on here would’ve taken £40M for Dibling.

Unfortunately, Everton probably isn’t the step up he was hoping for, but equally it’s probably his level, and the chance for a quick pay day.

No “top eight” club is forking out £40-50M on a young player who has yet to do anything significant in the Premier League. Only if you’re stupid enough are you going to bid that.

[SaintsLoyal]

West Ham are interested in Dibling at £25M and some add ons

I suspect they might offer Prowse as well if they can pay his wages.

 

 

 

 

 

[Chez]

39 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I think most on here would’ve taken £40M for Dibling.

Unfortunately, Everton probably isn’t the step up he was hoping for, but equally it’s probably his level, and the chance for a quick pay day.

No “top eight” club is forking out £40-50M on a young player who has yet to do anything significant in the Premier League. Only if you’re stupid enough are you going to bid that.

Chelsea spent more than that on Lavia after 26 starts for us.

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

West Ham are interested in Dibling at £25M and some add ons

I suspect they might offer Prowse as well if they can pay his wages.

If the add ons are £25m in hard cash and a 20% sell on fee, then we might be interested.

[Willo of Whiteley]

10 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

West Ham are interested in Dibling at £25M and some add ons

I suspect they might offer Prowse as well if they can pay his wages.

 

 

 

 

 

Has Ward-Prowse ever indicated he’d want to return?

Seems like a lot of wishful thinking.

[egg]

5 hours ago, Chez said:

What's his real world value?

Who gives a fuck if Everton is a good destination. All that matters is how much money a buying club offers. 

The highest bid. 

Who's bidding more than Everton? Not West Ham. Probably nobody else in the PL.

He's not worth what you want him to be worth, he's only worth what someone will pay. He'll be worth less in the next window, and even less in the one after.

That's the real world.

[Wallington Saint]

He's going! Once I saw his new hair style it was a done deal!

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

7 hours ago, Wallington Saint said:

He's going! Once I saw his new hair style it was a done deal!

If to Everton, that would confuse a few defences especially with the socks also rolled down.

[Chez]

8 hours ago, egg said:

The highest bid. 

Who's bidding more than Everton? Not West Ham. Probably nobody else in the PL.

He's not worth what you want him to be worth, he's only worth what someone will pay. He'll be worth less in the next window, and even less in the one after.

That's the real world.

I am fully aware of what's the real world.

But if the highest bid is way below the clubs (not my) valuation, why should they sell?

[egg]

4 minutes ago, Chez said:

I am fully aware of what's the real world.

But if the highest bid is way below the clubs (not my) valuation, why should they sell?

1. His value won't go up as his contract runs down. 

2. He seemingly doesn't want to be here. I base that on the report that he has told the club that he wants to leave. I want players committed to the cause - look at Robinson's effort levels compared to Dibling in the latter part of last season. 

3. Still hasn't got the players to play the way he wants. It seems painfully obvious that we need to sell to buy, and that Dibling was the one to go in order to start the chain. It seems madness to me that we push the whole transfer / team policy out of the window to keep one lad who'll be going very soon, just because market forces haven't gone as we'd hoped. 

Fundamentally, nobody is paying £50-60m for him. He's a West Ham, Everton, Palace, Forest level player at this stage of his career and if the max one of them will pay is what Everton offered, then that's his value. 

[Chez]

11 minutes ago, egg said:

1. His value won't go up as his contract runs down. 

2. He seemingly doesn't want to be here. I base that on the report that he has told the club that he wants to leave. I want players committed to the cause - look at Robinson's effort levels compared to Dibling in the latter part of last season. 

3. Still hasn't got the players to play the way he wants. It seems painfully obvious that we need to sell to buy, and that Dibling was the one to go in order to start the chain. It seems madness to me that we push the whole transfer / team policy out of the window to keep one lad who'll be going very soon, just because market forces haven't gone as we'd hoped. 

Fundamentally, nobody is paying £50-60m for him. He's a West Ham, Everton, Palace, Forest level player at this stage of his career and if the max one of them will pay is what Everton offered, then that's his value. 

His value probably won't go up over the next two years, but the price offered between now and the window closing might. I see Everton returning with a larger bid.

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

His new hair style has devalued him at £20M, plus he looks ridiculous with his socks so low down.

[benali-shorts]

It all looks perfectly positioned for Levy to come in with a lower offer than Everton’s on deadline day and get his man. 

[ChrisPY]

11 hours ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Even by Scouse standards, you're extremely weird.

Can we keep it as a forum pet? 
 

Take it in turns feeding it lines about dugouts and Scouse thievery to see if we can get it to bite.

Edited Monday at 07:19 by ChrisPY

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, Chez said:

His value probably won't go up over the next two years, but the price offered between now and the window closing might. I see Everton returning with a larger bid.

 

Hopefully not too late if there’s insufficient time to get the 3-4 starters Still needs to play his preferred system. 

[Mr X]

So is it true that he told the club he would down tools if they didn't sell? 

[egg]

22 minutes ago, Chez said:

His value probably won't go up over the next two years, but the price offered between now and the window closing might. I see Everton returning with a larger bid.

 

You may be right, but I think it's a given that our targets will either be gone by then, or their value will have increased. It's unlikely that his value increases in the next two weeks by more than the cumulative value of our targets. 

[macca155]

12 minutes ago, Mr X said:

So is it true that he told the club he would down tools if they didn't sell? 

Doubt it, he's a 19 year old lad. Probably wants to hide from all this, I would, goodness knows what it's doing to his mental health.

His 'people' will be doing all the agitation, and the club have to sell big somewhere. 

We seem to have been here so often over the years. Always the same result. Just get it over with.

[gio1saints]

On balance I think we will get around £40m for him. And the add ons - in time and if activated - will make it worth £45m-£50m. The add ons are not guaranteed. 

Only EPL clubs plus a small basket of CL others can afford to even contemplate this kind of fee package for a lower league up and coming talent. The realistic market is about 20-25clubs - at best. 

Take away the clubs that don’t need /want him ( though this can change day by day- Everton get blown away by Leeds tonight for example and there resolve to buy Tyler may reemerge  ) and there’s probably less than a dozen runners and riders for him between now and end of window. It could be a tight call between him staying until the next window when clubs who have had a bad start and need a talent splash the cash- or clubs that have done well and wish to consolidate ditto- or leaving. 
 

My personal view : currently it’s 100% he’s leaving, 90% its in this window.  

 

 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

43 minutes ago, Mr X said:

So is it true that he told the club he would down tools if they didn't sell? 

Nope.

He's quite a shy person, I can’t imagine him threatening to down tools, if it all fell through it means he has burnt his bridges and is then stuck.

I’d say good man-management by the club, they kept him separate from the group whilst there was negotiations going on, now they’re over he’s back in the fold.

It’s clear to tell who the ones are that don’t want to be here because they’ve been frozen out entirely (Aribo, Edozie, ABK), and that means they are just separated from the group in the meantime.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

His new hair style has devalued him at £20M, plus he looks ridiculous with his socks so low down.

Indeed. Just think of the lost sales from poor image rights.

[East Kent Saint]

The fact that 2 or 3 Ipswich defenders tried to close him down when he was on the ball says more than all the transfer speculation 

[St Louis]

13 hours ago, SaintsLoyal said:

West Ham are interested in Dibling at £25M and some add ons

I suspect they might offer Prowse as well if they can pay his wages.

 

 

 

 

 

Ward Prowse has just been made West Ham Vice-Captain, so I would assume they expect him to be staying. I know things change fast, but guessing Potter doesnt plan on moving him on.

[OldNick]

13 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Has Ward-Prowse ever indicated he’d want to return?

Seems like a lot of wishful thinking.

It may be wishful thinking to you/others but to me Im quite happy having JWPfree team. Im tired of seeing the ball recycled more that a Durex at a Bonnie Blue bang thanks very much

[tdmickey3]

8 minutes ago, OldNick said:

It may be wishful thinking to you/others but to me Im quite happy having JWPfree team. Im tired of seeing the ball recycled more that a Durex at a Bonnie Blue bang thanks very much

Deary me, we had that under Martin and for the most part JWP wasn't here...🙄

Edited Monday at 10:59 by tdmickey3

[OldNick]

1 minute ago, tdmickey3 said:

Deary me, we had that under Martin and for the most part JWP want here...🙄

Yep and that was enough for me, I want the refresh that seems to be on the cards. Whilst there is still a lot of playing around the back, there does seem to be a more, lets get it into the box or shoot policy. Going back to the sideways backwards football that JWP provided and Im not keen. It still amamazes me that when the one time JWP was given a more attacking role he looked fantastic away at Everton, scoring 2 goals. Then never again, it was incredible. I cant recall what manager was in charge, but it did seem the way to get the best from him.

[Verbal]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Im tired of seeing the ball recycled more that a Durex at a Bonnie Blue bang thanks very much

Good to see you're still abreast of significant cultural events Nick. 

[Chez]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Yep and that was enough for me, I want the refresh that seems to be on the cards. Whilst there is still a lot of playing around the back, there does seem to be a more, lets get it into the box or shoot policy. Going back to the sideways backwards football that JWP provided and Im not keen. It still amazes me that when the one time JWP was given a more attacking role he looked fantastic away at Everton, scoring 2 goals. Then never again, it was incredible. I cant recall what manager was in charge, but it did seem the way to get the best from him.

Europe's statistically best manager

[Saint NL]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

It may be wishful thinking to you/others but to me Im quite happy having JWPfree team. Im tired of seeing the ball recycled more that a Durex at a Bonnie Blue bang thanks very much

You paint quite the image with your words.

[OldNick]

43 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

You paint quite the image with your words.

Its like reading Shakespeare, I do agree

[Jimmy_D]

15 hours ago, egg said:

The highest bid. 

Who's bidding more than Everton? Not West Ham. Probably nobody else in the PL.

He's not worth what you want him to be worth, he's only worth what someone will pay. He'll be worth less in the next window, and even less in the one after.

That's the real world.

We're bidding whatever his value drops by this season to have him playing for us this season.

At the moment, that's more than Everton are willing or able to afford, and Everton aren't a big enough draw for him to force his way there (and earn the associated reputation that comes with pulling a move like that).

It's gambling on a known very high quality young player being willing to put the effort in (even if that's just to ensure he gets the move he wants) and improve his consistency, against gambling on being able to bring in a brand new player (or players) and then those players being able to fit in and give us as much or more on the pitch.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 hours ago, OldNick said:

Yep and that was enough for me, I want the refresh that seems to be on the cards. Whilst there is still a lot of playing around the back, there does seem to be a more, lets get it into the box or shoot policy. Going back to the sideways backwards football that JWP provided and Im not keen. It still amamazes me that when the one time JWP was given a more attacking role he looked fantastic away at Everton, scoring 2 goals. Then never again, it was incredible. I cant recall what manager was in charge, but it did seem the way to get the best from him.

I would have JWP back without a shadow of a doubt. Never going to happen though. 

[St. Ciervo]

30 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I would have JWP back without a shadow of a doubt. Never going to happen though. 

We have such an affinity for returning players. It may not happen this season, but I would actually be shocked if JWP didn't finish his career with us. 

[OldNick]

31 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I would have JWP back without a shadow of a doubt. Never going to happen though. 

he was a good servant but for a few years nobody could work out his best postition, and a few managers were just as perplexed trying to fit him in.

Spectacular free kicks put him in a different bracket, but generally he was tidy but uninspiring with his play. Yes he worked really hard but his pace was a big problem, and sadly his first thought was to go sideways or backwards, not in a positive direction forward. I understand some would be down to the managers he played under, the all seemed a breed of not losing the ball and not to take risks. If he did come back I would of course accept it but there is no way he could justify 100k a week wages that apparently he is on now.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, OldNick said:

he was a good servant but for a few years nobody could work out his best postition, and a few managers were just as perplexed trying to fit him in.

Spectacular free kicks put him in a different bracket, but generally he was tidy but uninspiring with his play. Yes he worked really hard but his pace was a big problem, and sadly his first thought was to go sideways or backwards, not in a positive direction forward. I understand some would be down to the managers he played under, the all seemed a breed of not losing the ball and not to take risks. If he did come back I would of course accept it but there is no way he could justify 100k a week wages that apparently he is on now.

Sure there would have to be a massive paycut which is why it's not happening anytime soon. But your description is no different to Flynn Downes minus the free kicks. 

[OldNick]

1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Sure there would have to be a massive paycut which is why it's not happening anytime soon. But your description is no different to Flynn Downes minus the free kicks. 

IMHO Flynn is superior to JWP. Flynn is a ball winner and does not ty to do anything more, JWP does try to be a ball winner but not with the same ferocity 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, OldNick said:

IMHO Flynn is superior to JWP. Flynn is a ball winner and does not ty to do anything more, JWP does try to be a ball winner but not with the same ferocity 

Wasn't much of a ball winner last season when he didn't want to play. Say what you like about JWP but he always put a shift in. Downes isn't even close to being the player JWP is.

[S-Clarke]

4 minutes ago, OldNick said:

IMHO Flynn is superior to JWP. Flynn is a ball winner and does not ty to do anything more, JWP does try to be a ball winner but not with the same ferocity 

They're in different leagues in player and club senses I'd have to say.

JWP was on the edge of England for a while, genuinely deserved to get picked more often I'd say. He was a regular captain for the U21's too. Flynn has never and will never be in the conversation for International Football. He's too limited for a higher level.

[OldNick]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Wasn't much of a ball winner last season when he didn't want to play. Say what you like about JWP but he always put a shift in. Downes isn't even close to being the player JWP is.

All a matter of opinion, he did run around a lot ill give you that. JWP was a darling with a lot of fans foronereason and that was hs eyecatching free kicks, they have disappeared. I was not surprised when he said last season in an interview he doesnt practice them. 

Having no real strength or pace is a major hindrence, and that stopped his delelopment, aso having negative , safe managers also didnt help 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

They're in different leagues in player and club senses I'd have to say.

JWP was on the edge of England for a while, genuinely deserved to get picked more often I'd say. He was a regular captain for the U21's too. Flynn has never and will never be in the conversation for International Football. He's too limited for a higher level.

Fair point but Flynn is a spoiler and that is never something that gets you international caps. The great Jimmy Case never got his fair amount of those either

[Lee On Solent Saint]

1 minute ago, OldNick said:

All a matter of opinion, he did run around a lot ill give you that. JWP was a darling with a lot of fans foronereason and that was hs eyecatching free kicks, they have disappeared. I was not surprised when he said last season in an interview he doesnt practice them. 

Having no real strength or pace is a major hindrence, and that stopped his delelopment, aso having negative , safe managers also didnt help 

As you say a matter of opinions. He's probably the last player apart from KWP that I actually cared that left.

 

[Chez]

2 hours ago, OldNick said:

Its like reading Shakespeare, I do agree

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[Crab Lungs]

On 16/08/2025 at 08:45, gio1saints said:

👋 @Crab Lungs

Sperstyan and Rudoni seem good footballers in positions we are weak in.  

Dibling on the other hand, is the closest thing to MLT I’ve ever seen for Saints.
 

Objectively, what he probably needs - and sadly it’s been ever thus for Saints - is to be surrounded by better players, in a better team, and in a better league.
 

He will get kicked the shit out of this season for sure playing Championship. Do that in the EPL and VAR will get players sent off. Do it in the championship he will just get injured. 

Every logical thought says he’s going and he is right to go. It’s not if he’s going it’s simply how much. It will dismay sentimentalists like me but that’s the state of this shitty game nowadays. There’s no more heroes nor can there be - only transients that wear the shirt for a season or two then depart. 

I’d love him to stay but I can’t help but think if we had an option of keeping him or adding those two, overall, we’d be a lot stronger.

Hello, Gio!!! ❤️👋🏼

[Crab Lungs]

On 16/08/2025 at 07:38, Chez said:

What would you choose?

Rudoni and Spertysan.

[SuperSAINT]

[Sheaf Saint]

42 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

I would love to see AMN go there and just jog about looking lost like he did for us.

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Matthew Le God]