What Is Happening To Our Country?

[AlexLaw76]

On 27/06/2026 at 10:46, Turkish said:

There is a big difference between a new housing estate being built and 1500 immigrants being dumped in the middle of nowhere where!

Once the military bases have reached capacity (and legal people are trying to exclude the use of ex military sites as they are deemed not good enough), available Service Homes will be used. To offer support (ie, safety) to Service families, Military police patrols will be stepped up in the neighbourhoods, along with the provision of 'military cohesion officers'.

In short, plans are being spun up, under the umbrella of diversity and pink and fluffy wording, for service personnel to be more visible in service family areas to protect the women and the kids.

what makes it even more tragic, planned works to improve currently used service family accommodation (ie, remove mould etc) is being postponed in order to fully refurbish properties to be used by illegal migrants who have yet to chuck the ID in the Channel.

Got to love this country.

Edited Sunday at 19:04 by AlexLaw76

[Challenger]

There's many people in this country that are pig sick of this " problem " but conversely many ( as portrayed in the previous photos) that fully embrace welcoming all to come and stay.

This latter group should have no problem financially contributing more in order to house and feed these incomers and contribute to any subsequent legal costs,  whilst those against pay nowt.

Problem sorted.

Edited Sunday at 15:55 by Challenger

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Once the military bases have reached capacity (and legal people are trying to exclude the use of ex military sites as they are deemed not good enough), available Service Homes will be used. To offer support (ie, safety) to Service families, Military police patrols will be stepped up in the neighbourhoods, along with the provision of 'military cohesion officers'.

In short, plans are being spun up, under the umbrella of diversity and pink and fluffy wording, for service personnel to be more visible in service family areas to protect the women and the kids.

what makes it even more tragic, panned works to improve currently used service family accommodation (ie, remove mould etc) is being postponed in order to fully refurbish properties to be used by illegal migrants who have yet to chuck the ID in the Channel.

Got to love this country.

Why do they need to do that? It’s only people who don’t want brown people here that think they need extra security. More institutional racism alive and well I see

[egg]

1 hour ago, Challenger said:

There's many people in this country that are pig sick of this " problem " but conversely many ( as portrayed in the previous photos) that fully embrace welcoming all to come and stay.

This latter group should have no problem financially contributing more in order to house and feed these incomers and contribute to any subsequent legal costs,  whilst those against pay nowt.

Problem sorted.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks this is a simple binary choice between turn back the boats or welcome everyone.

Most people, I suspect, acknowledge that illegal immigration needs sorting but that there are genuine asylum seekers, don't "embrace" all and sundry being welcomed, but accept that the people who arrive here actually need to be accommodated until there's a decision made about whether they can stay or must leave. 

I'll ask you the question that has been ducked up there... where do we accommodate these people - hotels, HMO's, streets/woods/fields, shanty towns, detention centres? 

The only solution is to make us less attractive to the greedy, urgently sort out a process to deal with claims and appropriate appeals sharpish, and accommodate people as cost effectively and safely as possible until they're processed. 

[swannymere]

 We were manipulated to blame each other rather than the real culprits; the super rich.

[Whitey Grandad]

9 hours ago, swannymere said:

 We were manipulated to blame each other rather than the real culprits; the super rich.

There's a reason that they got rich.

[badgerx16]

12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There's a reason that they got rich.

There are many reasons;

Some inherited wealth as descendants of invaders who seized land 

Some worked extremely hard

Some invested and made the correct/lucky choices when playing the markets

Some played close to illegality and fraud, but got away with it

Some are simply bullshitting snake oil salesmen

[Challenger]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

There are many reasons;

Some inherited wealth as descendants of invaders who seized land 

Some worked extremely hard

Some invested and made the correct/lucky choices when playing the markets

Some played close to illegality and fraud, but got away with it

Some are simply bullshitting snake oil salesmen

An idle waster that I used to know managed it with a scratchcard.

[Osvaldorama]

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

[Sir Ralph]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

Mental.

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

250k is a relatively low price for a new build house, its certainly toward the bottom end of the market so if the local residents cannot afford them perhaps they should have worked harder to get jobs where they could. That said I think it's marvelous that the people of Shropshire can welcome Asylum seekers to their area with the authorities giving them wonderful, new homes to enjoy their stay in comfort. Refugees are most definitely welcome there!!

[Challenger]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

Stop moaning, this country has a reputation as the world's soft touch to maintain.

[Weston Super Saint]

6 minutes ago, Challenger said:

Stop moaning, this country has a reputation as the world's soft touch to maintain.

And doing a fine job!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no

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The ringleader of a notorious Rochdale grooming gang is set to be released from jail this week and cannot be deported, his victims have been told.

Stripped of his British Nationality but we can't deport him because Pakistan don't want him back 🤣

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And doing a fine job!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no

Stripped of his British Nationality but we can't deport him because Pakistan don't want him back 🤣

After being rehabilitated by our first class prison system then it's only right he be allowed his liberty back after serving his sentence. With the things he last learnt and the punishment he has recieved i'm sure he's looking forward to rebuilding his life the support of his family and local community. Im sure he'll gone on to become a fine upstanding member of the Rochdale community, he has paid for his sins, his god has forgiven him and so should we.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

It's so unfair. The asylum seekers put in those houses are going to be really upset, when they see Buckingham Palace being given to other asylum seekers, after it's refurbished.

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

Nobody is being 'given' anything.

The properties were sat empty and have been acquired on a lease by Serco to be used as dispersed accommodation (which is cheaper than using hotels) to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed.

If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation.

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Nobody is being 'given' anything.

The properties were sat empty and have been acquired on a lease by Serco to be used as dispersed accommodation (which is cheaper than using hotels) to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed.

If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation.

And pay back up to £10k....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddlgqlm7q2o

 

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People granted asylum in the UK face having to pay back around £10,000 towards the cost of their accommodation and support once they start earning, under government plans.

The new measures, which are part of the Immigration and Asylum Bill, are aimed at recovering costs from all adults with sufficient funds.

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

to temporarily house immigrants while their asylum claims are processed.

If their claim is successful they will have to vacate the property within 28 days and find their own private or social housing, and if not then they will be removed to a detention centre pending deportation.

They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. 

[egg]

4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Enjoy work today everyone!

 

At least our money is going to a good cause:

 

I'll ask again...where do we accommodate these people - hotels, HMO's, streets/woods/fields, shanty towns, detention centres? 

[Sheaf Saint]

24 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. 

Putting aside the legal infeasibility of that for a moment (you can't indefinitely detain someone simply for claiming asylum), the cost of it would be astronomical compared to the cost of using dispersed accommodation. 

[egg]

28 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. 

Nice to see someone addressing the issue. And yep, wherever possible, that's the answer for me. Where not possible (ie no space), then the cheapest option. 

[egg]

14 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Putting aside the legal infeasibility of that for a moment (you can't indefinitely detain someone simply for claiming asylum), the cost of it would be astronomical compared to the cost of using dispersed accommodation. 

Although I like the idea of the cheapest option, I prefer a less attractive option. A detention centre, pending processing, isn't attractive and gives safety to people seeking that.  

[AlexLaw76]

Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country.

remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers.

Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law.

 

Edited 20 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

They should be kept in a detention centre whilst their claims are processed. 

Far too much common sense for that to catch on.

 

[Badger]

46 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country.

remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers.

Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law.

 

As long as there is state funded legal aid they’ll be a whole appeals industry to stretch things out. 

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And pay back up to £10k....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cddlgqlm7q2o

 

 

Yeah because I’m sure they’re gonna pay that back and not disappear into the wind 😂

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Detention centre, removed of/when denied, let whoever appeal from another country.

remove the constant stream of freebies, clamp down on the unlimited number of vape shops, barbers and deliveries drivers.

Immediately raise the bar required to gain asylum, and deport those granted to stay should they break the law.

 

Too much common sense there 

 

instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care.  

Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. 
 

Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. 

[Turkish]

9 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Too much common sense there 

 

instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care.  

Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. 
 

Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. 

I like paying tax. When I see my P60 every year then do a tax return and always have to pay more  as I sip an espresso made from premium beans out of an Italian copper cup made in an expensive coffee machine I’m pleased as I’m giving to the greater good to help others more in need than me. 

[Sheaf Saint]

45 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Too much common sense there 

 

instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care.  

Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. 
 

Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. 

They're literally not. The whole reason for using dispersed accommodation like this is because it is significantly cheaper than hotels or detention centres. 

[aintforever]

31 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

They're literally not. The whole reason for using dispersed accommodation like this is because it is significantly cheaper than hotels or detention centres. 

Don't confuse the poor fella with facts, he needs something to get outraged about.

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Yeah because I’m sure they’re gonna pay that back and not disappear into the wind 😂

But I thought everyone was angry about the free houses, cars, iPhone 17's and benefits - they won't get any of those if they "disappear into the wind".

Edited 17 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Farmer Saint]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXMsp8jiJ8R/?igsh=dHpzeTlnbWoxdzQ2

 

This fucking cuntry.

[tdmickey3]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Too much common sense there 

 

instead they’ll spend as much as they physically can on housing, taxis, medical care, dental care.  

Meanwhile all of our bills and taxes are soaring. 
 

Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. 

What are you going to do then?

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, tdmickey3 said:

What are you going to do then?

Read his Social Media feeds.

[CB Fry]

2 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

 

Genuinely not sure how much more of this shit I can take. I don’t understand how there’s not more protests & trouble tbh. 

Written like a guy who categorically isn't going to do anything whatsoever except read and write messages on Facebook about it.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

10 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

What are you going to do then?

I'm going to need a good month's notice if anyone is going to do a thing.

The last sight those French noblemen had, was of my poor knitting skills. I swore that I'd be prepared for the next revolution, and it's 20 hours practice to get back up to speed.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXMsp8jiJ8R/?igsh=dHpzeTlnbWoxdzQ2

 

This fucking cuntry.

Plenty more where that came from I’m afraid 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Gloucester Saint]

6 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

And doing a fine job!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2wl6ynn2no

Stripped of his British Nationality but we can't deport him because Pakistan don't want him back 🤣

Just amend the Immigration Act 1971 - would get cross-party support.

[Gloucester Saint]

Nice to see that the UK’s leading anti-immigration party has its house well in order on their policies around settled status.

 

[AlexLaw76]

10 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

They're literally not. The whole reason for using dispersed accommodation like this is because it is significantly cheaper than hotels or detention centres. 

And offers no deterrent , so they will keep flooding in.

[Gloucester Saint]

41 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

And offers no deterrent , so they will keep flooding in.

Best deterrent is quicker tribunals and quicker appeals in a single stage which tbf is what Mahmood is proposing which cuts the typical time from 61 weeks to 24 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-independent-appeals-body-to-speed-up-removals

And as @Badger said, restrict legal aid to a much smaller number of cases which appear more borderline (no pun intended). 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Best deterrent is quicker tribunals and quicker appeals in a single stage which tbf is what Mahmood is proposing which cuts the typical time from 61 weeks to 24 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-independent-appeals-body-to-speed-up-removals

And as @Badger said, restrict legal aid to a much smaller number of cases which appear more borderline (no pun intended). 

Very little will change. As with other governments, the next iteration of Labour will do little, tinker around the edges at best and will then be kicked out.

[Gloucester Saint]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Very little will change. As with other governments, the next iteration of Labour will do little, tinker around the edges at best and will then be kicked out.

We’ll find out won’t we? Depends how far Burnham will back Mahmood against their left. Reform are fucked with the Farage bribe scandal, rumours that he may not even stand in a by-election and you saw the state of Tice’s interview with Neil on their settled status plan, no detail or clue whatsoever. Tories couldn’t deal with it before and many of the same personnel.

I don’t think any party will be able to stop them coming as @egg has said, in fact I know so. But it’s about what you do when they’re here. This is what Braverman never understood, by cutting off legal routes to act hard for the press, it created an enormous backlog of cases that’s taken years to clear and still a residual 150k. 

[rallyboy]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

so they will keep flooding in.

The use of language is interesting, straight out of the Daily Mail handbook there, swarms, floods, plague, it's all very biblical and theatrical, to capture the imagination of one group of voters. 

The net migration figure of 171,000 from December 2025 is not a flood - but the word trickle doesn't fire up simpletons, and those wheely bins won't burn themselves.

[Osvaldorama]

6 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

The use of language is interesting, straight out of the Daily Mail handbook there, swarms, floods, plague, it's all very biblical and theatrical, to capture the imagination of one group of voters. 

The net migration figure of 171,000 from December 2025 is not a flood - but the word trickle doesn't fire up simpletons, and those wheely bins won't burn themselves.

He said “flooding in” because that’s exactly what is happening. 
 

Hope this helps 

The only simpletons are those like you that bury their head in the sand and commit to wasting endless cash supporting foreigners

Edited 5 hours ago by Osvaldorama

[badgerx16]

17 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

The use of language is interesting, straight out of the Daily Mail handbook there, swarms, floods, plague, it's all very biblical and theatrical, to capture the imagination of one group of voters. 

The net migration figure of 171,000 from December 2025 is not a flood - but the word trickle doesn't fire up simpletons, and those wheely bins won't burn themselves.

If those people most concerned about the net migration figure were to leave, the figure would come down.

[AlexLaw76]

33 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

The use of language is interesting, straight out of the Daily Mail handbook there, swarms, floods, plague, it's all very biblical and theatrical, to capture the imagination of one group of voters. 

The net migration figure of 171,000 from December 2025 is not a flood - but the word trickle doesn't fire up simpletons, and those wheely bins won't burn themselves.

I use the term Flood, as that is what is happening. Over 800k ‘arrived’ still.
 

great net migration is down, but way too many are just arriving and given a free new life.

Edited 5 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[badgerx16]

18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I use the term Flood, as that is what is happening. Over 800k ‘arrived’ still.
 

great net migration is down, but way too many are just arriving and given a free new life.

60% of non-EU incomers are on student or work visas  or are dependents of those people.

[Weston Super Saint]

23 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

60% of non-EU incomers are on student or work visas  or are dependents of those people.

Dependent visas for students were scrapped in 2024. Hence the big dip in immigration figures in September 2025.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

The use of language is interesting, straight out of the Daily Mail handbook there, swarms, floods, plague, it's all very biblical and theatrical, to capture the imagination of one group of voters. 

The net migration figure of 171,000 from December 2025 is not a flood - but the word trickle doesn't fire up simpletons, and those wheely bins won't burn themselves.

UK is around 5th in the EU broad area and when adjusted for population size falls to 17th comparatively (didn’t say EU zone because of Brexit) https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/

You can see the growth 2013-24 and the Suella Braverman backlog. Rwanda would never have made even a small dent in it, all optics for Murdoch and co. The appeals is what Mahmood is tackling, whether the IAA tribunals approach makes a definitive difference we will see. Got to be worth trying and reduce legal aid so the activists and law firms are paying a much larger proportion of appeal costs. That might restrict their appetite for the appeals system at recent volumes and instead re-direct more of their resources into supporting settlement of those actually accepted which would be more sensible.

Edited 4 hours ago by Gloucester Saint