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The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

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badgerx16

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What was this in reference to?

John is finally leaving for the United States of Trump.

( I can dream ).

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whelk

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On 23/04/2026 at 18:13, Lord Duckhunter said:

He’s done, no doubt about it. We’ve had The New Statesmen, Guardian, even Kevin Mcquire ffs, receiving briefings left right and centre, so it’s not just the Tim Shipman’s of the world. Senior Labour officials, civil servants, MP’s and members of the cabinet.  

Yeah I’ll put this one with the imminent united Ireland prediction. 

whelk

whelk

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22 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio....

I hope these feeble cunts don’t bet on anything. Not great at forecasting 

whelk

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On 22/04/2026 at 08:15, tdmickey3 said:

He is done, not sure why he`s clinging on but they all do it don't they?

Err maybe he doesn’t listen to Saintsweb predictions and the hysterical Mail, Telegraph, Express and Times desperate for it to happen

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

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tdmickey3

tdmickey3

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41 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

He will be gone.

bpsaint

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I guess this proves why Kier wanted to cancel the democratic elections for 5 million people.

At least he’ll get a nice big pay off to spend on some more Ukrainian rentboys*
 

*allegedly

 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

The vote is very fragmented. Reform are cleaning up in strong Brexit areas but struggling to get 1 in 10 votes outside of Brexit strongholds, similar to UKIP days. Would be a very mixed seat conversion at a General Election and nowhere a majority, largest party at very best.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8p4yn448vo

Labour and Conservatives done very badly, Starmer under pressure and Badenoch could be gone by the autumn. Questions for Ed Davey - should be doing better in SE, SW. Holding comfortably what they had but new councils and seat gains are fairly modest. 

 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

Stripey McStripe Shirt

Stripey McStripe Shirt

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2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

Diane Abbot for PM!

Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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5 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

A reminder of how the thread started v how's it going!

On 16/07/2024 at 08:55, sadoldgit said:

Now that the GE is done and dusted it is time for a new political thread. Hopefully we can get back to grey, boring politics again after the crazy, psycho dramas of the last few years.

Starmer’s Labour have certainly hit the ground running but it doesn’t look like they will be given much of a honeymoon period.

 

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Challenger

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Now in the same position that the Tories were in, scratching around for the least worst candidate, hoping something improves.

Maybe Starmer should now use his own advice back then and call for a GE to sort it all out, but of course now nobody knows what the fuck we will end up with.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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4 hours ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Diane Abbot for PM!

In the next month: New Labour leader is more from the left.

Next election: Labour get trounced

Following next election: To break into the new two party politics of the Greens and Reform, Labour pitch further to the left.

New leader picked: Abbott is still there as Hackney MP, and becomes new leader.

Corbyn and far, far left brought back into the fold, the Greens are destabilised and the Labour cycle begins anew.

They get trounced again at the next election by the Con-Form coalition.

Gloucester Saint

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1 hour ago, Challenger said:

Now in the same position that the Tories were in, scratching around for the least worst candidate, hoping something improves.

Maybe Starmer should now use his own advice back then and call for a GE to sort it all out, but of course now nobody knows what the fuck we will end up with.

GE very last thing a highly divided country needs right now with the fall out from Trump and Mad Ben, markets twitchier than Harry Redknapp as it is. Nobody is anywhere near an overall majority and it’d either be a Remain or Brexit coalition, as if those fissures haven’t been sore enough since 2016.

But yes, Starmer clearly toast.

I suspect it’ll be Streeting but he may be waiting for the US mid-terms to disable MAGA who will be too busy fighting impeachment to hurl homophobic hate across the Atlantic. 

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egg

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12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

GE very last thing a highly divided country needs right now with the fall out from Trump and Mad Ben, markets twitchier than Harry Redknapp as it is. Nobody is anywhere near an overall majority and it’d either be a Remain or Brexit coalition, as if those fissures haven’t been sore enough since 2016.

But yes, Starmer clearly toast.

I suspect it’ll be Streeting but he may be waiting for the US mid-terms to disable MAGA who will be too busy fighting impeachment to hurl homophobic hate across the Atlantic. 

I agree with that, although I think the markets are now starting to align with the economic reality rather than reacting to uncertainty as such, although uncertainty won't help. There's no chance of a GE anyways, that'd be turkeys/Xmas. 

Streeting is the most credible imo, but I'm not sure how well received he'd be by the right leaning masses, and whether we'd be going from someone who's become unpopular to someone who will never be popular. 

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Gloucester Saint

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Just now, egg said:

I agree with that, although I think the markets are now starting to align with the economic reality rather than reacting to uncertainty as such, although uncertainty won't help. There's no chance of a GE anyways, that'd be turkeys/Xmas. 

Streeting is the most credible imo, but I'm not sure how well received he'd be by the right leaning masses, and whether we'd be going from someone who's become unpopular to someone who will never be popular. 

Best orator they have and not afraid to make unpopular decisions. Some will clearly have an issue with his sexuality but they’re firmly in the Brexit bloc anyway.

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iansums

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3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Best orator they have and not afraid to make unpopular decisions. Some will clearly have an issue with his sexuality but they’re firmly in the Brexit bloc anyway.

I would agree that Streeting is the best option. Mahmood has also impressed me, which is odd considering I’m Islamophobic.

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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2 hours ago, iansums said:

. Mahmood has also impressed me, which is odd considering I’m Islamophobic.

You are probably secretly mysogynistic as well. We really don't want the likes of you casting a ballot.

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Sir Ralph

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The mad lefties in the Labour Party are about to get in via the back door that nobody wanted to be open. Starmer was the acceptable moderate “more” (relatively) centrist face to get them in. If people thought the first part of them in charge was bad, just wait to part two. It’s going to be a bad few years. Hopefully the start of the end of the LP as people will see their true colours. 

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badgerx16

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28 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

The mad lefties in the Labour Party are about to get in via the back door that nobody wanted to be open. Starmer was the acceptable moderate “more” (relatively) centrist face to get them in. If people thought the first part of them in charge was bad, just wait to part two. It’s going to be a bad few years. Hopefully the start of the end of the LP as people will see their true colours. 

You mean other than being socialists, backed by the unions, proponents of public ownership, wanting higher taxes on wealth and Big Business, and quite possibly pacifist CND supporters ? I'm fairly sure that these things are already widely known.

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Sir Ralph

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13 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

You mean other than being socialists, backed by the unions, proponents of public ownership, wanting higher taxes on wealth and Big Business, and quite possibly pacifist CND supporters ? I'm fairly sure that these things are already widely known.

Ok the true impact of their “real world” illiteracy would have been a better description. The proposed leadership and their policies will be a big step down in the status of the UK being relevant in terms of world politics and business. 

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Gloucester Saint

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3 hours ago, iansums said:

I would agree that Streeting is the best option. Mahmood has also impressed me, which is odd considering I’m Islamophobic.

🎵 You’re not allowed to vote, you’re not allowed to vote 🎵 😉

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badgerx16

badgerx16

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1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

Ok the true impact of their “real world” illiteracy would have been a better description. The proposed leadership and their policies will be a big step down in the status of the UK being relevant in terms of world politics and business. 

Ultimately it is down to how the electorate cast their ballots in the next GE. If sufficient people vote for them they will form the next Government.

Personally, I think a Reform Government would be the worst possible outcome, then again enough people voted for the economic harm that is Brexit.

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