The Starmer Years - Can The New Broom Sweep Clean?

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

What was this in reference to?

Top three breakfast cereals.

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

What was this in reference to?

John is finally leaving for the United States of Trump.

( I can dream ).

[whelk]

Assume the conspiracy twats so desperately wanting to believe rent boys, affairs of Starmer etc. will be all over this story. Personally I think Starmer had a torrid affair with El Money and this was his revenge for being dumped. Truth will be out soon eh eh

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/starmer-arson-attack-el-money-court-b2967192.html

Edited April 29 by whelk

[whelk]

On 23/04/2026 at 18:13, Lord Duckhunter said:

He’s done, no doubt about it. We’ve had The New Statesmen, Guardian, even Kevin Mcquire ffs, receiving briefings left right and centre, so it’s not just the Tim Shipman’s of the world. Senior Labour officials, civil servants, MP’s and members of the cabinet.  

Yeah I’ll put this one with the imminent united Ireland prediction. 

[whelk]

22 hours ago, Guided Missile said:

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio....

I hope these feeble cunts don’t bet on anything. Not great at forecasting 

[whelk]

On 22/04/2026 at 08:15, tdmickey3 said:

He is done, not sure why he`s clinging on but they all do it don't they?

Err maybe he doesn’t listen to Saintsweb predictions and the hysterical Mail, Telegraph, Express and Times desperate for it to happen

[benjii]

Not directly on topic, but Lowe getting rinsed in parliament is nice.

 

 

[Weston Super Saint]

I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

[tdmickey3]

41 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

He will be gone.

[AlexLaw76]

New broom still sweeping clean?

[Turkish]

Sacked in the morning you’re getting sacked on the morning 

[bpsaint]

I guess this proves why Kier wanted to cancel the democratic elections for 5 million people.

At least he’ll get a nice big pay off to spend on some more Ukrainian rentboys*
 

*allegedly

 

Edited Friday at 07:44 by bpsaint

[Gloucester Saint]

5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I predicted Starmer would be gone the last time they called for his head and he survived.  I think he's lucky that they don't really have an alternative lined up and Teflon Kier will survive again after the local elections disaster!

Have to say this bland grey boring politics certainly has some twists and turns!

The vote is very fragmented. Reform are cleaning up in strong Brexit areas but struggling to get 1 in 10 votes outside of Brexit strongholds, similar to UKIP days. Would be a very mixed seat conversion at a General Election and nowhere a majority, largest party at very best.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8p4yn448vo

Labour and Conservatives done very badly, Starmer under pressure and Badenoch could be gone by the autumn. Questions for Ed Davey - should be doing better in SE, SW. Holding comfortably what they had but new councils and seat gains are fairly modest. 

 

Edited Friday at 11:37 by Gloucester Saint
With link

[Lord Duckhunter]

 

[Guided Missile]

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio...

[Lord Duckhunter]

Greens celebrating taking Hackney. 
 

 

[badgerx16]

58 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio...

Late breakfast, or are you leaving ?

Edited Friday at 12:49 by badgerx16

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

Diane Abbot for PM!

[Weston Super Saint]

 

5 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is there about to be a new broom sweeping away the bits of the new broom?

Lots of articles on Catherine West launching a leadership bid on Monday. As a prompt for others. But are Rayner (HMRC), Streeting (Mandelson connections), Burnham (not a MP), Miliband (not even the best Miliband, despite union backing) ready?

I'd read that both Rayner and Streeting had enough backing already to launch one. But there's also an Anyone but Ange campaign.

Is West fronting for anyone in particular? An early campaign, not allowing Starmer a timetable for departure, rules out Burnham.

Could there be enough in fighting, that one of the other brooms in the broom cabinet, ends up in charge, like a Reeves, Mahmood, Lammy or Cooper?

Starmer hasn't much faith in any of them. If he goes, he considers that things will "descend into chaos"

A reminder of how the thread started v how's it going!

On 16/07/2024 at 08:55, sadoldgit said:

Now that the GE is done and dusted it is time for a new political thread. Hopefully we can get back to grey, boring politics again after the crazy, psycho dramas of the last few years.

Starmer’s Labour have certainly hit the ground running but it doesn’t look like they will be given much of a honeymoon period.

 

[badgerx16]

Imagine if in a few years time we are running a "The Farage years, will the new broom sweep clean ?" thread.

[Challenger]

Now in the same position that the Tories were in, scratching around for the least worst candidate, hoping something improves.

Maybe Starmer should now use his own advice back then and call for a GE to sort it all out, but of course now nobody knows what the fuck we will end up with.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 hours ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Diane Abbot for PM!

In the next month: New Labour leader is more from the left.

Next election: Labour get trounced

Following next election: To break into the new two party politics of the Greens and Reform, Labour pitch further to the left.

New leader picked: Abbott is still there as Hackney MP, and becomes new leader.

Corbyn and far, far left brought back into the fold, the Greens are destabilised and the Labour cycle begins anew.

They get trounced again at the next election by the Con-Form coalition.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Challenger said:

Now in the same position that the Tories were in, scratching around for the least worst candidate, hoping something improves.

Maybe Starmer should now use his own advice back then and call for a GE to sort it all out, but of course now nobody knows what the fuck we will end up with.

GE very last thing a highly divided country needs right now with the fall out from Trump and Mad Ben, markets twitchier than Harry Redknapp as it is. Nobody is anywhere near an overall majority and it’d either be a Remain or Brexit coalition, as if those fissures haven’t been sore enough since 2016.

But yes, Starmer clearly toast.

I suspect it’ll be Streeting but he may be waiting for the US mid-terms to disable MAGA who will be too busy fighting impeachment to hurl homophobic hate across the Atlantic. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[egg]

12 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

GE very last thing a highly divided country needs right now with the fall out from Trump and Mad Ben, markets twitchier than Harry Redknapp as it is. Nobody is anywhere near an overall majority and it’d either be a Remain or Brexit coalition, as if those fissures haven’t been sore enough since 2016.

But yes, Starmer clearly toast.

I suspect it’ll be Streeting but he may be waiting for the US mid-terms to disable MAGA who will be too busy fighting impeachment to hurl homophobic hate across the Atlantic. 

I agree with that, although I think the markets are now starting to align with the economic reality rather than reacting to uncertainty as such, although uncertainty won't help. There's no chance of a GE anyways, that'd be turkeys/Xmas. 

Streeting is the most credible imo, but I'm not sure how well received he'd be by the right leaning masses, and whether we'd be going from someone who's become unpopular to someone who will never be popular. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, egg said:

I agree with that, although I think the markets are now starting to align with the economic reality rather than reacting to uncertainty as such, although uncertainty won't help. There's no chance of a GE anyways, that'd be turkeys/Xmas. 

Streeting is the most credible imo, but I'm not sure how well received he'd be by the right leaning masses, and whether we'd be going from someone who's become unpopular to someone who will never be popular. 

Best orator they have and not afraid to make unpopular decisions. Some will clearly have an issue with his sexuality but they’re firmly in the Brexit bloc anyway.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Seems that West will now listen to what Starmer has to say. So, not a definite attempt to get 81 signatures. This gives all the front runners more time to organise their own schemes.

 

[iansums]

3 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Best orator they have and not afraid to make unpopular decisions. Some will clearly have an issue with his sexuality but they’re firmly in the Brexit bloc anyway.

I would agree that Streeting is the best option. Mahmood has also impressed me, which is odd considering I’m Islamophobic.