Summer Transfer Window 2025/26

[Patches O Houlihan]

2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Tonight! I heard that joke in 1997! 😉😇

It was on Question of Sport years back

[miserableoldgit]

8 minutes ago, Patches O Houlihan said:

 

 

I am obviously being really thick. Can someone explain this one?

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

So I assume this means Smallbone leaves for free at the end of this loan?

Same for Bree, Taylor and ABK? 

[Saint_clark]

Just now, miserableoldgit said:

I am obviously being really thick. Can someone explain this one?

Night Saints, morning Wood? 😂

[AlexLaw76]

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13420846/explained-agent-view-on-alexander-isaks-transfer-saga

Agent's view on an Iask-like situation 

[saintant]

33 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Good signing that

Yeah if you want an old bloke propping up your defence 🙂

[ErwinK1961]

9 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

 

Are they taking the piss out of Lambert with the glass of water? Quality if so

[egg]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Same for Bree, Taylor and ABK? 

Not Bree who'll come back here. 

[Pwoite]

31 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

So I assume this means Smallbone leaves for free at the end of this loan?

So, how does the finance work for us with Taylor, Smallbone and Bree?

I think all were out of contract next summer, so it means they all walk away then for nothing. So, potentially a loss, compared to selling them now (which we clearly couldn’t do!)

However, I presume we are receiving loan fees, though these will be relatively small  

I’m guessing that next summer, if they get contracts, they’ll get a signing on fee as no transfer fee will be needed, though this might not be huge. 

Then there are salaries. With relegation reductions, what were e paying these guys? Say an average of £15k pw. Will their new clubs be able to pay that? I’m guessing not, so we are probably subsidising the shortfall, maybe to the tune of the loan fee.

So, we reduced the squad size and the wage bill, helping cash flow, but effectively giving these players away impacts the balance sheet. 

Can anyone put real numbers into this? Is this how it works or is it even more complicated?

[Midfield_General]

What's the final list of all confirmed ins and outs since we went down then, including loans?

Edited 2 hours ago by Midfield_General

[CSA96]

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

[Saint_clark]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

What's the final list of confirmed ins and outs then?

Well the outs aren't confirmed yet, other windows are still open.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Not Bree who'll come back here. 

ah yes, only there until Jan, unless i thought it was a season long. Unless they buy him i guess.

[goodymatt]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Same for Bree, Taylor and ABK? 

As it stands Bree returns in January

Taylor walks on a free next summer

Smallbone walks on a free next summer. Wrexham’s £7.5m bid they didn’t move forward with irks. 

ABK we have an option to extend but will we? Unlikely!

So you’re probably right, all most likely walk free after this season. Sad indictment of our recruitment in recent times?

Edited 2 hours ago by goodymatt

[Midfield_General]

1 minute ago, CSA96 said:

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

That'll do as a summary - cheers

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, CSA96 said:

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

Must admit I was sceptical when people said we'd be looking to overhaul to this extent. Pretty incredible. 

[skintsaint]

Just now, goodymatt said:

ABK we have an option to extend but will we? Unlikely!

If he has a good season (lol) then we will most likely extend for that extra year, just to claw some dosh back.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, CSA96 said:

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

still think Aribo and Edozie will be gone somewhere. 

[Osvaldorama]

14 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

By the way, how much of a spotlight has been shone on Isak's behaviour by the media (mainly SSN) and lambasted?

Compare that to VvD's behaviour, or Schneiderlin's social media post...

... did they get lampooned by the media in the same way?

SSN acting as if player power has spiralled out of control. If they'd been paying attention, they'd have seen it has been an issue for quite a while.

Im not sure how to break this to you, but the media tends to have an agenda 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

Must admit I was sceptical when people said we'd be looking to overhaul to this extent. Pretty incredible. 

Of the new squad, surely we won't lose that many to the international break?

Bazunu, Manning, Charles, Azaz

No idea about the lads from overseas, and if there are any U21 games coming up.

But, hopefully, the bulk of our squad is here (like Pompey's) preparing for THE game

[Hopper]

5 minutes ago, Pwoite said:

So, how does the finance work for us with Taylor, Smallbone and Bree?

I think all were out of contract next summer, so it means they all walk away then for nothing. So, potentially a loss, compared to selling them now (which we clearly couldn’t do!)

However, I presume we are receiving loan fees, though these will be relatively small  

I’m guessing that next summer, if they get contracts, they’ll get a signing on fee as no transfer fee will be needed, though this might not be huge. 

Then there are salaries. With relegation reductions, what were e paying these guys? Say an average of £15k pw. Will their new clubs be able to pay that? I’m guessing not, so we are probably subsidising the shortfall, maybe to the tune of the loan fee.

So, we reduced the squad size and the wage bill, helping cash flow, but effectively giving these players away impacts the balance sheet. 

Can anyone put real numbers into this? Is this how it works or is it even more complicated?

I think in all 3 cases the monetary values involved are so relatively low on the balance sheet it doesn't really impact us. Smallbone has a zero value as he's an academy product. Missed opportunity for profit but no losses. Bree we signed for less than a mil and chaz I think was on a free.

Salaries they would've likely already been reduced on relegation and then it's just up to the clubs to negotiate the share.

Edited 2 hours ago by Hopper

[sockeye]

2 minutes ago, Hopper said:

Smallbone has a zero value

....  

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

As it stands Bree returns in January

Taylor walks on a free next summer

Smallbone walks on a free next summer

ABK we have an option to extend but will we? Unlikely!

So you’re probably right, all most likely walk free after this season. Sad indictment of our recruitment in recent times?

Three of those were either free, academy or signed for less than £1m. ABK looked like a decent deal for a club like ours. He had the talent, just not the application.

There are much worse examples of our recruitment than those four. Lyanco, for example.

[Osvaldorama]

9 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

Pretty astonishing that Kwp, fernandes and ramsdale are the only good players and people that you can say made any difference to the team. 

Some may try and argue that Bednarek should be included here - but no. He was fucking wank too. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Osvaldorama

[goodymatt]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Three of those were either free, academy or signed for less than £1m. ABK looked like a decent deal for a club like ours. He had the talent, just not the application.

There are much worse examples of our recruitment than those four. Lyanco, for example.

Very true, fair comments.

[egg]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

ah yes, only there until Jan, unless i thought it was a season long. Unless they buy him i guess.

I suspect he'll stay for a nominal fee, although he'll be fighting for a place with another stellar ex saint RB, Kayne Ramsey. 

[AlexLaw76]

9 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Incredible to move on from 20 members of the previous season's first team squad in one summer window - and still trying to get Aribo and Edozie out the door

1. Ramsdale
2. Lumley
3. Walker-Peters
4. Sugawara
5. Bree
6. Bednarek
7. Bella-Kotchap
8. Kayi Sanda
9. Taylor
10. Larios
11. Ugochukwu
12. Smallbone
13. Fernandes
14. Lallana
15. Gronbaek
16. Amo-Ameyaw
17. Dibling
18. Sulemana
19. Brereton Diaz
20. Onuachu

Some absolute fucking dross in the list

Sugawara, Suly, BBD for example

[SNSUN]

I'm not sleeping until we announce Spertsyan dammit.

[Paulwantsapint81]

Would Smallbone have signed an extension before going on loan in exchange for getting a loan to a team he can shine at & saints get a fee next summer?

[Hopper]

Just now, SNSUN said:

I'm not sleeping until we announce Spertsyan dammit.

You could always grow your hair like that United supporter. Not sure who'd win that race.

[egg]

10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

still think Aribo and Edozie will be gone somewhere. 

Edozie, yes, but not sure about Aribo. I'd like to keep him personally, decent player at this level who will give us another option. If he was on the bench at the weekend, I reckon we'd have won if he came in for Downes. 

[Hopper]

1 minute ago, Paulwantsapint81 said:

Would Smallbone have signed an extension before going on loan in exchange for getting a loan to a team he can shine at & saints get a fee next summer?

Possible, Saints may also hold an option year on his contract.

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Of the new squad, surely we won't lose that many to the international break?

Bazunu, Manning, Charles, Azaz

No idea about the lads from overseas, and if there are any U21 games coming up.

But, hopefully, the bulk of our squad is here (like Pompey's) preparing for THE game

u21 internationals same time as the full internationals.

[egg]

Just now, Chez said:

u21 internationals same time as the full internationals.

Under 19's too, so Robinson won't be around either. 

[Hopper]

Listening to Leo's interview it sounds like our team made contact weeks back on the move so this was well planned out in advance despite it coming down to the wire haha.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

Edozie, yes, but not sure about Aribo. I'd like to keep him personally, decent player at this level who will give us another option. If he was on the bench at the weekend, I reckon we'd have won if he came in for Downes. 

Ive always liked him, better than what he gets credit for, would be happy to keep him but dont think he's featured at all under Still has he?

[saintant]

Think we can safely confirm it'll be Will Still's team whoever he picks. This is an almost total reset and has been too long coming. Not saying it's sure to be a success but it feels like an exorcism.

[spyinthesky]

Just think, last summer Transfer Window we signed Maxwell Cornet.
That went well!!!!!!

[Matthew Le God]

 

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, egg said:

Under 19's too, so Robinson won't be around either. 

probably not a good time to be swapping from 5 to 4 at the back, sadly.

[Saint_lambden]

11 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

I'm not sleeping until we announce Spertsyan dammit.

He's sat in the McDonalds in Shirley waiting for the EFL to confim the move. Had a strawberry milkshake and a Big Tasty with bacon. 

[Hopper]

I think it's only fair to crack this back out. Well done to the team at Saints. Excited for the season ahead.

[Tommy Mulgrew]

22 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Matthew, who’s our fat drummer?

[austsaint]

16 minutes ago, Hopper said:

I think it's only fair to crack this back out. Well done to the team at Saints. Excited for the season ahead.

Many were critical of Spors after the initial Downs, Quarshie signings and the long gap between further signings and sales - yet he’s pieced it all together with the planning and precision of a surgeon.   Impressive.

[CSA96]

Another thing I noticed...

August 29: Fernandes sold for £42m
August 29: Azaz signs for £15m
August 29: Jander signs for £12m
August 29: Fellows signs for £10m
September 1: Scienza signs for £8m

Total spend post-Fernandes: £45m

Really good forward planning from Spors and Lederer 

*deal values include add-ons/bonuses

Edited 1 hour ago by CSA96

[Gloucester Saint]

45 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Three of those were either free, academy or signed for less than £1m. ABK looked like a decent deal for a club like ours. He had the talent, just not the application.

There are much worse examples of our recruitment than those four. Lyanco, for example.

Yeah ABK had the ability but not the application. Rationale behind that signing wasn’t bad as with Salisu. Lyanco never even looked anywhere good enough, better attitude than those two but emergency option at best in the PL. Not sure he’d be that much better in the Champ. Not sure what Semmens was up there. 

[Challenger]

1 hour ago, Sparkkyy said:

How has Leo the cat reacted to the signing of Leo?

 

Is he still on the cat tree? Is he asleep in one of his many places? Is he waiting for a late treat of some description? 
 

 

Probably having a dump in someone else's garden.

[ant]

We've got rid of an awful lot of bloat, that's for sure. 

If we get promoted I'm fully aware that we'll require yet another rebuild (with a completely different approach to last time, and VERY astute recruitment).

But the way we've done business, there should be a bit more financial flexibility to aid in attempting it.

In terms of the Championship stars we've picked up, should they not be deemed good enough for the Prem I feel we should still be able to recoup some value from them. I.e. not complete dead wood.

The squad still has its foibles, but I'm not sure there's a team in the division with a 'perfect' set of personnel. Of course there's always an inherent risk to such wholesale changes, too - but what was the alternative?

I'm feeling cautiously optimistic for the first time in a while.

[Middlewordie]

Can we still sign unsigned players now that this window has closed?

[SuperSAINT]

4 minutes ago, Middlewordie said:

Can we still sign unsigned players now that this window has closed?

Yes