Nieldy Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Mark robins made Coventry what they are today.Last season they had a bad start and just missed out on the playoffs.I think.I would have mark robins over lampard any day. 1
OldNick Posted May 14 Posted May 14 6 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Gary O’Neil is another philosophy manager. Not for me. If he was appointed i think I would reconsider getting my s/t. Cant have a ex Pompey player , and he plays rubbish football anyway. Look at Wolves and Bournemouth he leaves and they both turn into better sides 9
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 8 hours ago, Fabrice29 said: Before even getting into whether he’d be good, I’m amazed anyone thinks Lampard would walk out on Coventry for us at this point. Saints have a better squad, better academy, better training ground, significantly bigger income next season, significantly bigger wage/transfer budget and bigger manager wage. 3
Turkish Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints have a better squad, better academy, better training ground, significantly bigger income next season, significantly bigger wage/transfer budget and bigger manager wage. What’s your thoughts on Will Still? 1
Turkish Posted May 14 Posted May 14 6 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: I love the speculation about the new manager. All in vain though as history has showed us time and again - let's face it, not one predicted Nathan fucking Jones, Russell Martin or Ivan Duric. Likely no one will predict the next manager to join the wacky races - although plenty will say they knew it all along once announced I think you’ll find some people called all of them 👼 2 2
benjii Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Lampard is basically a Redknapp so he can fuck off, as far as I'm concerned. 11
Doctoroncall Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints have a better squad, better academy, better training ground, significantly bigger income next season, significantly bigger wage/transfer budget and bigger manager wage. What makes Saints training ground better?
Weston Super Saint Posted May 14 Posted May 14 13 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: What makes Saints training ground better? Greener grass. 2
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 52 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: What makes Saints training ground better? Although Coventry have recently refurbished, it is smaller and to a lower spec than Staplewood. No where near as much money invested into it.
Turkish Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Although Coventry have recently refurbished, it is smaller and to a lower spec than Staplewood. No where near as much money invested into it. How about Will Still? What’s your view on him?
wild-saint Posted May 14 Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Although Coventry have recently refurbished, it is smaller and to a lower spec than Staplewood. No where near as much money invested into it. So do you have a view on whether Will Still would be a good appointment?
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: How about Will Still? What’s your view on him? I not seen enough of his teams play to really know. His CV is reasonably good relative to the place we find ourselves.
Fabrice29 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints have a better squad, better academy, better training ground, significantly bigger income next season, significantly bigger wage/transfer budget and bigger manager wage. Thank for the information dump. If you're going to ignore the post where I explained why the idea of Lampard leaving Coventry for us is not going to happen, then I'll just ask you to name the figures for this part... Edited May 14 by Fabrice29
trousers Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: I not seen enough of his teams play to really know. His CV is reasonably good relative to the place we find ourselves. Oi! Leave the fence sitting to the experts, such as myself! 1 4
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said: Thank for the information dump. If you're going to ignore the post where I explained why the idea of Lampard leaving Coventry for us is not going to happen, then I'll just ask you to name the figures for this part... Saints will once again be a 1st year parachute payment club. Our wage bill in 2023/24 was significantly higher than Coventry City as evidenced on the Companies House website. Nothing financially has notably changed for us not to have a wage bill for both players and manager significantly above a non parachute payment team like Coventry next season.
Fabrice29 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Saints will once again be a 1st year parachute payment club. Our wage bill in 2023/24 was significantly higher than Coventry City as evidenced on the Companies House website. Nothing financially has notably changed for us not to have a wage bill for both players and manager significantly above a non parachute payment team like Coventry next season. Name the figures.
CB Fry Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Appy said: Maybe our Russell is too obvious a suggestion for Norwich. Felt like a no brainer. 3
Oldandtired Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) Is it thought that a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later. I don't mean before the end of the season but I would hope pretty soon after. Edited May 14 by Oldandtired
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Name the figures. Wage bills in 2023/24 accounts... Coventry £23.4m Saints £80.9m 1 1
The Kraken Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Oldandtired said: Is that thought that a new manager will be appointed sooner rather than later. I don't mean before the end of the season but I would hope pretty soon after. There’s always the possibility of a repeat of the Martin scenario, whereby we wait until we’re officially a championship club to go for a manager who is already in position (Martin officially joined on 23rd June in 2023). 1
Fabrice29 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Just now, Matthew Le God said: Wage bills in 2023/24 accounts... Coventry £23.4m Saints £80.9m Okay so you cant name the figures. That's okay. No biggie, just a lesson learnt for next time. Focus on the nuances of the post rather than things you cant back up xxx 1
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, The Kraken said: There’s always the possibility of a repeat of the Martin scenario, whereby we wait until we’re officially a championship club to go for a manager who is already in position (Martin officially joined on 23rd June in 2023). I think that is likely to be the reason. Although with the window this season opening on 1st June, hopefully we have them in place before 23rd June!.
trousers Posted May 14 Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Wage bills in 2023/24 accounts... Coventry £23.4m Saints £80.9m He asked what the managers' wages were not the overall wage bill. Maybe try answering the question accurately, as you insist others do... 3
Dusic Posted May 14 Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Maybe our Russell is too obvious a suggestion for Norwich. Felt like a no brainer. It did seem a logical one. Perhaps he has something seemingly better lined up, or is willing to wait for that, seeing as Norwich are now parachute payment-less.
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said: Okay so you cant name the figures. That's okay. No biggie, just a lesson learnt for next time. Focus on the nuances of the post rather than things you cant back up xxx I did name the figures. We had nearly 4x the wage budget the last time we were in the same league. Little has changed for that not to be the case next season. Are you seriously suggesting a club would have 4x the overall wage budget, but it wouldn't apply to the manager? 1
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, trousers said: He asked what the managers' wages were not the overall wage bill. Maybe try answering the question accurately, as you insist others do... See my last answer. 1
trousers Posted May 14 Posted May 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: See my last answer. He asked for the actual figures that apply to the manager and you haven't provided them. That's a matter of fact. If you're asked a question and don't know the answer, just say you don't know. It's not difficult. Edited May 14 by trousers 6
Matthew Le God Posted May 14 Posted May 14 1 minute ago, trousers said: He asked for the actual figures that apply to the manager and you haven't provided them. That's a matter of fact. The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case? 1
Fabrice29 Posted May 14 Posted May 14 Just now, Matthew Le God said: The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case? It's not unreasonable to think that. It is unreasonable to state it as fact when you don't know though. 7
skintsaint Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case? Lampard is probably on good wedge at Coventry already, and we probably have to factor in that we had two managers contracted for next season that we have already sacked off, that 'could' lower our affordability.
Midfield_General Posted May 14 Posted May 14 29 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Maybe our Russell is too obvious a suggestion for Norwich. Felt like a no brainer. It will be either Leicester or Rangers for him, I think. 1
trousers Posted May 14 Posted May 14 21 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case? It's a reasonable assumption, but that still doesn't mean you answered the actual question being asked. Still, at least you're not purposely annoying... 1
Appy Posted May 14 Posted May 14 22 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: It will be either Leicester or Rangers for him, I think. Sounds like Rangers are getting Ancelotti Jnr
Gloucester Saint Posted May 14 Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, Appy said: Sounds like Rangers are getting Ancelotti Jnr Russell’s agent and Russell himself seem to rate him far higher than the actual football industry does. Turns out results and clean sheets every now and again are important. Leicester the only game in town left but that’s only if they can afford to sack RVN at the end of next month.
Dusic Posted May 14 Posted May 14 8 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Russell’s agent and Russell himself seem to rate him far higher than the actual football industry does. Turns out results and clean sheets every now and again are important. Leicester the only game in town left but that’s only if they can afford to sack RVN at the end of next month. No real evidence of any of that. This season hasnt even finished yet.
StrangelyBrown Posted May 15 Posted May 15 10 hours ago, CB Fry said: Maybe our Russell is too obvious a suggestion for Norwich. Felt like a no brainer. Maybe they realise our Russell is a bit shit? 3
Weston Super Saint Posted May 15 Posted May 15 9 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case? On the other hand, it's totally unreasonable to even suggest that the CEO should share any of the blame at a football club that has sacked two managers during the season, been relagated as the earliest team ever to achieve it and also have the second lowest total of points ever. Absolutely farcical that the Chief Executive Officer, responsible for the direction and performance of the company should even be slightly culpable, eh, Matthew? Sometimes your 'logic' makes you look tragically simple. 1
Turkish Posted May 15 Posted May 15 11 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: I not seen enough of his teams play to really know. His CV is reasonably good relative to the place we find ourselves. Okay so no opinion yourself and very little knowledge but knew enough to nit pick and other people’s opinions. Thanks for confirming 👍 2
Doctoroncall Posted May 15 Posted May 15 11 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: Although Coventry have recently refurbished, it is smaller and to a lower spec than Staplewood. No where near as much money invested into it. I don’t see anything you provided to indicate Staplewood is better. No evidence given that Coventry’s ground is a lower spec or smaller. I haven’t seen the cost figures or ROI, you didn’t quote any, besides if more money has been spent (and wasted???) at Staplewood it doesn’t mean its anymore fit for purpose than Sky Blue Lodge. If by stating better you mean spent more money, then for clarity it would be better to say that rather than give the impression you are aware of what each training ground provides. 2
Turkish Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: I don’t see anything you provided to indicate Staplewood is better. No evidence given that Coventry’s ground is a lower spec or smaller. I haven’t seen the cost figures or ROI, you didn’t quote any, besides if more money has been spent (and wasted???) at Staplewood it doesn’t mean its anymore fit for purpose than Sky Blue Lodge. If by stating better you mean spent more money, then for clarity it would be better to say that rather than give the impression you are aware of what each training ground provides. Given Staplewood went hugely over budget because of Corteses dicking around I wouldn’t trust the cost figures as a true indication of its value. yes I know inprovements have been made since then but a top line figure as to the total cost of Staplewood isn’t a true indication as to its value, I believe the original cost was almost £20m over the initial budget, mainly due to the dwarf
Matthew Le God Posted May 15 Posted May 15 16 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said: I don’t see anything you provided to indicate Staplewood is better. No evidence given that Coventry’s ground is a lower spec or smaller. I haven’t seen the cost figures or ROI, you didn’t quote any, besides if more money has been spent (and wasted???) at Staplewood it doesn’t mean its anymore fit for purpose than Sky Blue Lodge. If by stating better you mean spent more money, then for clarity it would be better to say that rather than give the impression you are aware of what each training ground provides. I have been to Staplewood Campus three times and have seen plans/videos of Coventry's training ground. So I made a comparison.
Matthew Le God Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Turkish said: Given Staplewood went hugely over budget because of Corteses dicking around I wouldn’t trust the cost figures as a true indication of its value. yes I know inprovements have been made since then but a top line figure as to the total cost of Staplewood isn’t a true indication as to its value, I believe the original cost was almost £20m over the initial budget, mainly due to the dwarf The plans significantly changed from those original plans. Significantly higher in spec and scope. That impacted the cost. Edited May 15 by Matthew Le God
Turkish Posted May 15 Posted May 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: The plans significantly changed from those original plans. Significantly higher in spec and scope. That impacted the cost. Given a good mate of mine worked on the project in a management role I know exactly what happened sunshine. Edited May 15 by Turkish 1
SaintLondon Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Has anyone seen this Gary O'Neill stuff? https://www.sportsboom.com/football/transfer-news-rumours/exclusive-southampton-want-sheff-wed-manager-danny-rohl-as-their-new-boss/ It would be on brand for Sport Republic to not read the room and employ a Pompey legend.
Willo of Whiteley Posted May 15 Posted May 15 I think the club are putting all their eggs in one basket with Danny Rohl. Would be very on brand for Rohl to say no and Saints to be lumbered with some far-reached name we’ve never heard of. We should be a massive pull for any fringe Premier League players in the twilight of their career or some of the better Chanpionship players whose clubs are in worse financial positions than Saints. My concern is that SR aren’t smart enough to realise any of that.
ally_uk Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Hypothetically if Rohl is appointed, could any of the Sheff Wed's lads do a job for us? I'm not to familiar with the squad. Changing the subject also, What's the situation with Poku at Peterborough? He is a player we should be looking at 💯
Kenilworthy59 Posted May 15 Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Hypothetically if Rohl is appointed, could any of the Sheff Wed's lads do a job for us? I'm not to familiar with the squad. Changing the subject also, What's the situation with Poku at Peterborough? He is a player we should be looking at 💯 Josh Windass would be a good shout for the level we will be at. Maybe bring back Valery?
Give it to Ron Posted May 15 Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, Kenilworthy59 said: Josh Windass would be a good shout for the level we will be at. Maybe bring back Valery? Why don't you come on over, Valery? 2
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