Will Still

[Dr Who?]

Why has he not gone yet. Get your finger out and for once be ruthless and decisive. You might gain a little respect for once. Make the right appointment during the week, or even god behold you have a decent replacement already lined up, you may, just may give yourselves a little bit of time to redeem yourself. Mess up again, like dragging this one out, or bringing in another up and coming manager, this mob will be on you to clear off none stop! 

[Toussaint]

Stan Laurel 

[egg]

He knows he's gone from that interview. Talked about not having had the time to do what they wanted in the past tense. 

[saintant]

Sack him fine but we'll only be putting a tiny sticking plaster over the problem which is and always has been SR. Time for major surgery because the patient is dying and a sticking plaster won't do what's needed.

[Toussaint]

Just now, egg said:

He knows he's gone from that interview. Talked about not having had the time to do what they wanted in the past tense. 

What did he want to do? Why revolutionise football, all he needed to do was pick up over two points a game and get us into contention, nothing more than that. 

[bugenhagen]

15 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

Time for the board to let him go....... then let themselves go...... We are broken from top to bottom in every way..

If they were to do that, SR would probably fuck it up and sack themselves first, and Will would Still be here…

[Wade Garrett]

He makes Branfoot look like Brian Clough.

Absolutely dreadful appointment from the clowns in charge.  Can they actually get the next appointment right?  Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

Sack him fine but we'll only be putting a tiny sticking plaster over the problem which is and always has been SR. Time for major surgery because the patient is dying and a sticking plaster won't do what's needed.

That’s been my view until today, but he can’t stay now. Staying up is now the priority.

[Smirking_Saint]

21 minutes ago, saintant said:

He wasn't and he isn't.

You’ve misinterpreted me, he is clearly a very good ‘coach’ as he managed to get the players playing a very specific way almost completely on instinct 

Thats in the same way as Pochettino came in and managee to coach very advanced pressing triggers quickly

That is the sign of good ‘coaching’, what you’re alluding to, i think, is the difference between a good coach and a good manager… Poch was both, Martin was an awful manager 

[Smirking_Saint]

4 minutes ago, egg said:

He knows he's gone from that interview. Talked about not having had the time to do what they wanted in the past tense. 

Genuinely have no idea what he was trying to do

He achieved nothing, if anything he took us backwards

[Saint NL]

Why is it taking so long?

 

[Osvaldorama]

Negative manager, with no coherent tactics or game plan that has made every single player worse. 

He has all the worst attributes of some of our previous managers.

- As negative as Pellegrino 

- As boring as Puel 

- As tactically naive as Wotte/Poortvliet

Horrendous appointment, genuinely the worst. There are no positives at all. No redeeming qualities to fall back on. 

He’s made a good championship squad the worst in the league. 

[hypochondriac]

He will be gone I'm sure. With another club with a different mentality he might do alright. With hindsight we needed an experienced manager who is a bit of a psychologist who has been there before and who can turn the mentality of the club around, not a relative youngster in their first job in English football without his brother assistants. 

I wish still well and it wouldn't surprise me if he succeeds somewhere else but it won't be here.

[Sir Ralph]

After today I’ve changed my mind. He should go now. After the whole talk of standing up and being counted this week, we could have turned it around. We didn’t so I don’t see what else we can do

[Badger]

8 minutes ago, egg said:

He knows he's gone from that interview. Talked about not having had the time to do what they wanted in the past tense. 

I heard that. How much fucking time did he want ? He had all pre-season, it wasn’t a late in the day appointment. 
Even allowing for the late arrivals to the end of the window he’s had long enough to motivate and shape the team.

Some on here were praising the club for making the early appointment. The point I made at the time was it was more important to get the right appointment rather than a quick one. We certainly failed on that count. 

[RedArmy]

13 minutes ago, egg said:

He knows he's gone from that interview. Talked about not having had the time to do what they wanted in the past tense. 

Good. Onwards and upwards. 
 

Back to the laptop for ginger bollocks

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

That’s been my view until today, but he can’t stay now. Staying up is now the priority.

I'm not advocating that he stays - I'm saying he is not the major problem that has led this club to where it now stands. Clearly that is all down to SR and until they go nothing will change. They will continue to appoint poor managers and sign the wrong players. We need a big influx of football knowledge involving people capable of building a squad of players fit for the modern game which is fast paced, relentless and takes no prisoners. As a guide look at the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford, Palace and even Sunderland - ok we won't have the kudos to sign the quality players they can at this moment in time but we have to build in some strength, pace, power and athleticism alongside the skills. Do that and gradually we'll develop a squad which can compete and get stronger but right now we are weak as piss all over the park.

[Dr Who?]

We 100% need a “been there and done it” kind of manager. If we are still crap, then the club are just haunted by some kind of shite football hoodoo! 

[Dr Who?]

Anyone else just waiting for the title of this thread to change from Will Still to Will Still Sacked. 

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

After today I’ve changed my mind. He should go now. After the whole talk of standing up and being counted this week, we could have turned it around. We didn’t so I don’t see what else we can do

Trouble is Saints don’t make the decisions soon enough. Lego was here a couple of months longer than he should have been.

This season, Rangers sacked him a few hours after a match, Forest got rid of Ange about 20 minutes after the final whistle. 
 

What do Spors, Parsons and co do after another piss poor showing. Whatever it is, about time they called time on this farce. 

[Baird of the land]

2 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

Anyone else just waiting for the title of this thread to change from Will Still to Will Still Sacked. 

Yep don’t trust the club to pull the trigger.

[Badger]

5 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

We 100% need a “been there and done it” kind of manager. If we are still crap, then the club are just haunted by some kind of shite football hoodoo! 

Bollocks to having a Sporting Director. Just appoint a White Witch. 

[Badger]

2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Yep don’t trust the club to pull the trigger.

Yes, the art of dither is alive and well at SFC. 

[Dr Who?]

In the olden days a huge amount of fans (me and friends included) would gather around the players and officials entrance and protest. I remember these scenes especially under the ‘leadership’ of Branfoot. This all seemed change when we moved to St Mary’s. There is an even bigger area, with more fans, but they just boo and feck off home. Why is no one protesting? I don’t get it! 

Edited 15 hours ago by Dr Who?

[Pamplemousse]

He's completely out of his depth.

I feel some sympathy for him because these players are fucking useless. They are also to blame.

[Wade Garrett]

16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He will be gone I'm sure. With another club with a different mentality he might do alright. With hindsight we needed an experienced manager who is a bit of a psychologist who has been there before and who can turn the mentality of the club around, not a relative youngster in their first job in English football without his brother assistants. 

I wish still well and it wouldn't surprise me if he succeeds somewhere else but it won't be here.

It would surprise me if he succeeded anywhere.  Just managed to sell himself as the next bright thing when he has absolutely fuck all to back it up, and the clowns running the club fell for it hook line and sinker.

[Galway saint]

1 hour ago, stknowle said:

Note to Sport Republic - Just get a fucking grown experienced adult manager in whose like - you know - actually demonstrated that he might be up to the job. For fucks sake stop fucking my club and ruining my weekends with your bizarre wanker tinkerings you utter bunch of CUNTS.

Think this sums it up 

[Viking Saint]

4 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

He's completely out of his depth.

I feel some sympathy for him because these players are fucking useless. They are also to blame.

Agree. It's not him who can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo from 6 yards.

[Toussaint]

16 minutes ago, saintant said:

I'm not advocating that he stays - I'm saying he is not the major problem that has led this club to where it now stands. Clearly that is all down to SR and until they go nothing will change. They will continue to appoint poor managers and sign the wrong players. We need a big influx of football knowledge involving people capable of building a squad of players fit for the modern game which is fast paced, relentless and takes no prisoners. As a guide look at the likes of Bournemouth, Brentford, Palace and even Sunderland - ok we won't have the kudos to sign the quality players they can at this moment in time but we have to build in some strength, pace, power and athleticism alongside the skills. Do that and gradually we'll develop a squad which can compete and get stronger but right now we are weak as piss all over the park.

I don’t disagree, but changing the manager is the only option the club have in the here and now, the rest of the things that need fixing will take much longer.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

It would surprise me if he succeeded anywhere.  Just managed to sell himself as the next bright thing when he has absolutely fuck all to back it up, and the clowns running the club fell for it hook line and sinker.

He's clearly just not a manager suited to turning a club in freefall around. He's had success elsewhere at reasonable clubs that don't have mental problems. No reason he couldn't do that again. Look at Nathan Jones. I expect still will go back to France and do alright.

[Dr Who?]

Bored now. I’m going to order a Chinese and have a few drinks. To celebrate a battling performance from the mighty Carlisle. 2-0 down in the 93rd minute. Came back to 2-2 and won in extra time. 

[Badger]

5 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

In the olden days a huge amount of fans (me and friends included) would gather around the players and officials entrance and protest. I remember these scenes especially under the ‘leadership’ of Branfoot. This all seemed change when we moved to St Mary’s. There is an even bigger area, with more fans, but they just boo,band feck off home. Why is no one protesting? I don’t get it! 

Remember the Branfoot days, and it wasn’t just the younger fans protesting in the car park. The Port Vale game sticks in my mind.

Is it an age and generation thing ? We’re now older, and for the younger group they probably do their ‘protest’ by social media.

Did anything come of the suggested pre-match meet up and protest ? 

[saintstowin]

Is the interview on the club site an indication it's not imminent? Maybe they have to put it up because it's what is normally done.

[Pamplemousse]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He's clearly just not a manager suited to turning a club in freefall around. He's had success elsewhere at reasonable clubs that don't have mental problems. No reason he couldn't do that again. Look at Nathan Jones. I expect still will go back to France and do alright.

Exactly. Wrong place at the wrong time.

Need a hard taskmaster, someone like Strachan who will take zero shit

[bogwoppit]

1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said:

He's completely out of his depth.

I feel some sympathy for him because these players are fucking useless. They are also to blame.

Agree with him being out of his depth. Partially agree about the players being useless. Just to use as an example, if David Moyes had these players, I guarantee he would have picked up more points.

Don’t get me wrong, there are still some crap players, a few who are no where near Championship level.

[Badger]

6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

It would surprise me if he succeeded anywhere.  Just managed to sell himself as the next bright thing when he has absolutely fuck all to back it up, and the clowns running the club fell for it hook line and sinker.

As did some of our Nods who saw him talking to Carragher.
 

Have a look at the next manager thread which was closed when he was appointed. 

[BarryVenisonsHair]

Brendan Rodgers. 

[Dr Who?]

1 minute ago, Badger said:

Remember the Branfoot days, and it wasn’t just the younger fans protesting in the car park. The Port Vale game sticks in my mind.

Is it an age and generation thing ? We’re now older, and for the younger group they probably do their ‘protest’ by social media.

Did anything come of the suggested pre-match meet up and protest ? 

Now you see I think if I lived in Southampton, I would still get involved even though I am 50 now. I have mellowed but this kind of thing really gets me. Things are quite clearly very wrong and rotten at the club, but we seem to just except it. Wednesday fans a little different but it had to get into quite a state first even there. 

[tdmickey3]

2 minutes ago, saintstowin said:

Is the interview on the club site an indication it's not imminent? Maybe they have to put it up because it's what is normally done.

He’s not going anywhere, just like the team

[stknowle]

52 minutes ago, saintant said:

Better still Sport Republic just get out of my fucking club now!

Yeah absolutely. Completely done with them. They have got to be the most incompetent owners we have ever had by fucking miles. It’s SO FUCKING DEPRESSING.

[sockeye]

3 minutes ago, saintstowin said:

Is the interview on the club site an indication it's not imminent? Maybe they have to put it up because it's what is normally done.

Think you may be right, there is no post for Martin post Spurs 5-0. https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/tag/russell-martin

[qwertyell]

6 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

In the olden days a huge amount of fans (me and friends included) would gather around the players and officials entrance and protest. I remember these scenes especially under the ‘leadership’ of Branfoot. This all seemed change when we moved to St Mary’s. There is an even bigger area, with more fans, but they just boo,band feck off home. Why is no one protesting? I don’t get it! 

Saints 3-3 Sheffield United, under Branfoot. 

What started as a bit of a grumble outside the stadium spread like wildfire down the street until the police lined up and slow walked us away.

I'd taken a sickie off work to catch the game. The post match scenes were on the local news. As was my stupid face, in amongst the rabble - which my manager watching on TV duly noted. 

Got an absolute bollocking on Monday. 

Good times. 

[Lighthouse]

You guys are being way too harsh on Still. He had no way of knowing before the game that five at the back with Armstrong as the lone striker wasn’t going to work.

[Nieldy]

Yes he has got to go.I live 1/2 hour away from Wrexham and I've had numerous bets with the Wrexham fans that we would finish above them season.🫣🫣.That's the poor kids Christmas presents money gone.

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Exactly. Wrong place at the wrong time.

Need a hard taskmaster, someone like Strachan who will take zero shit

Sean dyche would have been ideal. Failing that we need some proper championship experience at getting teams out of a hole. Carrick would just be another gamble imo. Someone like warnock if he isn't too old would be perfect in the short term.

[saint michael]

1 hour ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

Agree about experience but what decade are you in?

Football decade not tippy tappy shyte decade

[Sheaf Saint]

31 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

With hindsight we needed an experienced manager who is a bit of a psychologist who has been there before and who can turn the mentality of the club around, not a relative youngster in their first job in English football

Pretty sure the vast majority of us don't need hindsight to recognise that. It was obvious even before we appointed Juric last year that's what would be needed. 

[stknowle]

56 minutes ago, SaintNate said:

Speaking on the radio now. 

Bloke has the charisma of a wet paper bag. 

I’ve just run the tap over a paper bag for five minutes and can confirm it has significantly more charisma than Will fucking Still.

[Pamplemousse]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Sean dyche would have been ideal. Failing that we need some proper championship experience at getting teams out of a hole. Carrick would just be another gamble imo. Someone like warnock if he isn't too old would be perfect in the short term.

I want someone who the players would absolutely dread because he'd make them work hard.

What must Roy Keane be thinking about his future son-in-law? Embarrassment surely

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Pretty sure the vast majority of us don't need hindsight to recognise that. It was obvious even before we appointed Juric last year that's what would be needed. 

And yet if you'd run a poll the majority would have felt that the appointment of Still was alright. Personally I wanted Rohl and said so at the time but Still did look like a reasonable option. I thought with all the new players that we'd be able to shed some of the mentality of last year. I'm not sure how we haven't been able to.