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benjii

benjii

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Just now, skintsaint said:

Fuck me one loss......people so brittle these days.

4 matches. Zero good 90 minutes.

Idiotic line ups.

No obvious clue with the ball.

Doesn't know his best defence.

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Osvaldorama

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Just now, skintsaint said:

Fuck me one loss......people so brittle these days.


To be honest it’s not good enough at all 

He’s had all preseason and we look so disorganised.  
Why do Stoke look like a team, whereas we look like strangers?

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Dr. Kucho

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Still is a big let down (so far)

very inflexible 

Still has to work with the second worst Premier League team ever. You can’t repair the damage that’s been done in just a few weeks over the summer. 

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benjii

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Just now, Dr. Kucho said:

Still has to work with the second worst Premier League team ever. You can’t repair the damage that’s been done in just a few weeks over the summer. 

In the Championship. 

Dr. Kucho

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1 minute ago, benjii said:

In the Championship. 

On the exception of Fernandes today’s squad was made up entirely of Championship quality players. 

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aintforever

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said:

Still has to work with the second worst Premier League team ever. You can’t repair the damage that’s been done in just a few weeks over the summer. 

We bounced straight back under Martin, there are no excuses if he doesn’t do the same.

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benjii

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Just now, Dr. Kucho said:

On the exception of Fernandes today’s squad was made up entirely of Championship quality players. 

Not sure what your point is, to be honest. No way the manager gets a free pass after an entire pre season just because we were crap last season.

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Gloucester Saint

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4 minutes ago, benjii said:

4 matches. Zero good 90 minutes.

Idiotic line ups.

No obvious clue with the ball.

Doesn't know his best defence.

Today was unacceptable, I’ll give you that. But he needs to put a firework up Spors’s arse to get the players he needs for his formation and if that means doing in the presser, do it.

Managers get the sack from DoFs if they don’t deliver their objectives, whether the DoF has done their job properly or not.

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44 minutes ago, benjii said:

That's all.

If you don't rate Still and would rather have Martin back, that's like saying you'd rather step in cat shit rather than dog shit. Whilst it's obviously far too early to write off Still, the more apt thread title would've been: "I'd rather have someone else than Still or Martin"... 

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Sir Ralph

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10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

We bounced straight back under Martin, there are no excuses if he doesn’t do the same.

Do you remember the start of that season - losing 3 - 1 to Gillingham and 5 - 0 to Sunderland?

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Danny Rohl is without a club.. Incredible the club didn't just pay the £5m or whatever to get him when we wanted him back in January.

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benjii

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3 minutes ago, trousers said:

If you don't rate Still and would rather have Martin back, that's like saying you'd rather step in cat shit rather than dog shit. Whilst it's obviously far too early to write off Still, the more apt thread title would've been: "I'd rather have someone else than Still or Martin"... 

Martin would probably get this lot promoted again. Bravely too.

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skintsaint

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1 minute ago, Sir Ralph said:

Do you remember the start of that season - losing 3 - 1 to Gillingham and 5 - 0 to Sunderland?

also losing to Stoke at home 1-0....as i said some sad brittle fans on here.

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14 minutes ago, aintforever said:

We bounced straight back under Martin, there are no excuses if he doesn’t do the same.

Good thing we are only 3 games in then

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3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

also losing to Stoke at home 1-0....as i said some sad brittle fans on here.

People losing the plot after one defeat. The guy has been successful at 4 clubs but you cant expect us to be brilliant straight off. We clearly need 2-3 good attacking players as, other than Robinson, the rest of the forwards look terrible. He needs the window to be finished and then at least give him a few weeks with any new players.

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Dman

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Just now, Sir Ralph said:

People losing the plot after one defeat. The guy has been successful at 4 clubs but you cant expect us to be brilliant straight off. We clearly need 2-3 good attacking players as, other than Robinson, the rest of the forwards look terrible.

Whilst this thread is clearly abit of an over dramatic reaction to a deaft against a well orgainsed, decent side, things haven't looked good under Still. 

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Sir Ralph

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1 minute ago, Dman said:

Whilst this thread is clearly abit of an over dramatic reaction to a deaft against a well orgainsed, decent side, things haven't looked good under Still. 

I'm not saying we have been brilliant either. However, the recruitment has been pony so far and that has nothing to do with him.  Start judging him after at least 10 games.

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8 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

I'm not saying we have been brilliant either. However, the recruitment has been pony so far and that has nothing to do with him.  Start judging him after at least 10 games.

I agree. He's not been helped at all. Unfortunatley I fear we'll 'panic' buy some cheap backup in France. 

10 games is an incredibly long time. That could comfortably see us Beaten by the Skates and out of contention for automatic promotion - which is what I'd suggest were on course for at the minute. 

i'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt until the window closes. But picking Armstrong, as a lone 9, is absolutely criminal. 

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Sir Ralph

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4 minutes ago, Dman said:

I agree. He's not been helped at all. Unfortunatley I fear we'll 'panic' buy some cheap backup in France. 

10 games is an incredibly long time. That could comfortably see us Beaten by the Skates and out of contention for automatic promotion - which is what I'd suggest were on course for at the minute. 

i'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt until the window closes. But picking Armstrong, as a long 9, is absolutely criminal. 

Agree - Armstrong is not a 9. We have played Ipswich and Stoke (who look like a pretty decent team to be fair), in 2 of our 3 first games. We have Pompey, Hull, what looks like a bad Sheff U side and Watford in four of the next five games. If we dont pull a decent number of points after that then I would start to be more concerned.

Ipswich lost to Preston today - they have 2 points from 3 games and we are the two favourites. Everyone needs to give it a beat.

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eurosaint

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Great thread after 3 whole league games, surprised we’ve gone this far before calling for the manager’s head tbf !!

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tdmickey3

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31 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

The issue is not the managers, it's the players. Always has been.

You said we purchased for the championship, what’s happened then?

LGTL

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I feel sorry for Still because recruitment is a complete disaster. But lose to Pompey and it’s a long way back for him. 

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Tauro

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Get in the bin you utter clown. This is far from the team that will be competing in 2 weeks time. Yes goals were sloppy today but we're creating chances!

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2 hours ago, benjii said:

That's all.

Were you the dickhead booing and giving wanker signs to WS and the team in front of the Northam, and offering out Saints fans there?

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Patches O Houlihan

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1 hour ago, Dman said:

Danny Rohl is without a club.. Incredible the club didn't just pay the £5m or whatever to get him when we wanted him back in January.

Rohl has proved himself to be a bit of a helmet though this summer.

Happy with Still for the moment. Think he'll come good once the window has closed; provided we get some quality in through the door before then. If you watch the pressers he's not convinced by 3 at the back either. Now we've got our new Danish RB I bet we'll see a back four next game.

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1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

The issue is not the managers, it's the players. Always has been.

Or to put it another way - the players that the last fuck-knows-how-many managers have brought in.

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benjii

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17 minutes ago, Jack said:

Were you the dickhead booing and giving wanker signs to WS and the team in front of the Northam, and offering out Saints fans there?

No, but do you want some?

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ErwinK1961

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Weird thread, but then it’s SaintsWeb so I guess not.

The guy is managing with one arm tied behind his back at the moment. We’ve got an 18 year old as our only creative outlet, we are desperately short of creative options.

Stoke looked like a settled team that have been managed by a very good manager for 9 months. Thomas and Manheouf would walk into our team at the moment. Yet despite that, we still created enough chances to win today. 

The guy needs time with a settled squad and hopefully we will start to see some improvement in performances and patterns of play.

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S-Clarke

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I'd rather gouge my eyes out than have Martin managing us again.

You cannot judge Still at this stage, it's pretty weird to do so and sums up everything that is wrong with with modern football.

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Ex Lion Tamer

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2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

The guy has been successful at 4 clubs

I hope he comes good but is this actually true? 

From what I can tell he did well in Belgium but in France he took Reims from 12th to 11th before leaving after 2 wins in 14 games, and took Lens from 7th to 8th. Suggests he's steady but nothing spectacular and prone to a bad streak.

Normally I'm quite up for a bit of hipster management but I'm not sure Still has that much to back it up. Just potential because he's young still.

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Sir Ralph

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8 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

I hope he comes good but is this actually true? 

From what I can tell he took Reims from 12th to 11th before leaving after 2 wins in 14 games, and took Lens from 7th to 8th. Suggests he's steady but nothing spectacular and prone to a bad streak.

Not professing that I followed his career particularly closely and I dont watch French football. However, like most I read about him before he jointed and afterwards.

In terms of Lens they went through a fire sale so the conclusion from most was that he did reasonably well, as I understand it. They didnt want him to leave in the end https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/13/will-still-lens-abdukodir-khusanov-manchester-city-english-manager

With Reims I understand that he was generally successful but form fell off towards the end. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/11/will-still-reims-next-challenge-psg-europe

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Football Special

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4 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Fuck me one loss......people so brittle these days.

It's not just one loss, we've been rubbish in every game I've seen

Don't blame Still completely though, he's an inexperienced manager who needs to learn the league and get more streetwise 

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2 hours ago, LGTL said:

I feel sorry for Still because recruitment is a complete disaster. But lose to Pompey and it’s a long way back for him. 

As a fanbase I think we really have given the Sports Republic clowns an easy ride, they'd have got a lot more abuse at most clubs, however lose to Pompey and I think the gloves will be off and they'll have to develop a thick skin 

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