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sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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Just now, Micky said:

So why did none of those four clubs formally report us to the EFL, at the time of the offence? 

Because it is utter bollocks? 

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pingpong

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Assuming that saints will never be allowed to play again, what happens to the stadium? Can eastleigh use it maybe? Would be kind of fun to have a 30k stadium and we all switch to support Eastleigh through the various fun leagues.

And what happens to the player contracts etc? Do they just get cancelled?

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BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

My guess would be ppl are in strict instructions to not leak a thing…

Whereas normally they are told yeah, whatever. Tell all our secrets. No problem.

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trousers

trousers

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5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

But would it be the tribunal members letting something slip or the club/EFL? I think they've been informed of the outcome haven't they, just it's not being announced publicly till tomorrow (for some utterly bizarre reason).

 

4 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

If the club or EFL know then any form of embargo until tomorrow is, as you rightly say, bizarre.

If it is the 'nuclear' option, they've probably got a much longer statement to prepare compared to if it was just a fine and/or points deduction? To me, it's bad news if they've made a decision but aren't ready to announce it tonight.... #gutfeeling

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egg

egg

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10 minutes ago, saintant said:

Thought this hearing was for evidence on us spying on Boro only?

 

3 minutes ago, WinglessWonder said:

It is...

The charge relates to Boro only, but the tribunal can consider any evidence it thinks relevant, and decide the importance and credibility of that against the charges.

I've said above that the tribunal is adversarial cum inquisitorial, meaning it referees the scrap between us and the EFL, but also digs in as it needs to in order to get the information it thinks it needs. It's hard to see what other clubs could say that's relevant, but it's not beyond belief that they've had a say. 

Jimmy_D

Jimmy_D

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5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

But would it be the tribunal members letting something slip or the club/EFL? I think they've been informed of the outcome haven't they, just it's not being announced publicly till tomorrow (for some utterly bizarre reason).

If there’s been a decision and they’re not worried about leaving announcing it until tomorrow, strongly suggests there’s no massive logistics operation required as a result of the decision.

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markr27

markr27

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5 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

My guess would be ppl are in strict instructions to not leak a thing…

Yep, and they are each being watched around the clock, and their respective phones tapped to ensure this is followed. 

 

Apparently. 

Saint86

Saint86

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1 minute ago, egg said:

 

The charge relates to Boro only, but the tribunal can consider any evidence it thinks relevant, and decide the importance and credibility of that against the charges.

I've said above that the tribunal is adversarial cum inquisitorial, meaning it referees the scrap between us and the EFL, but also digs in as it needs to in order to get the information it thinks it needs. It's hard to see what other clubs could say that's relevant, but it's not beyond belief that they've had a say. 

Only the EFL could present that evidence, and that's the same EFL that have just given us an increased ticket allocation...

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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4 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

If the club or EFL know then any form of embargo until tomorrow is, as you rightly say, bizarre.

It’s not bizarre it’s a bloody disgrace. The cup final was last Sat, it’s inconceivable we wouldn’t know who was playing, or even if the game was going ahead, until the Weds before. The press would be all over it for one thing, you can’t tell me they’d do this to City or Chelsea or other big clubs. The EFL are showing what a fucking noddy outfit they are. 

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Colinjb

Colinjb

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1 minute ago, Jimmy_D said:

If there’s been a decision and they’re not worried about leaving announcing it until tomorrow, strongly suggests there’s no massive logistics operation required as a result of the decision.

You would hope so. But I don't trust that the concerns of the 80,000 or so people who are planning the weekend would be considered.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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1 minute ago, Jimmy_D said:

If there’s been a decision and they’re not worried about leaving announcing it until tomorrow, strongly suggests there’s no massive logistics operation required as a result of the decision.

Aye. There's still a few tickets for sale on the website so that hasn't been pulled.

Turkish

Turkish

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6 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Assuming that saints will never be allowed to play again, what happens to the stadium? Can eastleigh use it maybe? Would be kind of fun to have a 30k stadium and we all switch to support Eastleigh through the various fun leagues.

And what happens to the player contracts etc? Do they just get cancelled?

Well as we live in a cancel culture then that obvious takes care of the players, sorry lads you’re cancelled 

the stadium can be used to concerts, the end of the Southampton marathon and espionage training seminars and got Bournemouth to play their champions league games at

 

egg

egg

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Just now, saintant said:

Disgraceful decision.

Hard to say that without knowing what we admit or were found to have done. 

BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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The statement said we've admitted to the charges. Can't see why we'd appeal except against the level of punishment. I think we'll just have to accept this one.

Now its on the club to explain wtf they are going to do, to stop it happening again. 

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Don't wanna be "that guy" but a lot of people repeatedly laughed at me and called me mental for saying this was clearly still a real possibility. Lots of people on here laughing at Boro for being in an echo chamber without realising this place had become one itself.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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Don't wanna be "that guy" but a lot of people repeatedly laughed at me and called me mental for saying this was clearly still a real possibility. Lots of people on here laughing at Boro for being in an echo chamber without realising this place had become one itself.

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