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Posted by Miltonaggro,

Apologies for the war and peace post chaps – bear with or scroll past.  For the last week I have been trying to provide a steer on here as to why I think this silly episode will be concluded with a fine (in the region of £200k) and / or a possible future points deduction (though if I were advising Saints I would appeal this).  Simply that talk of forfeit and bans opens a legal can of worms that is well beyond the remit and scope of both the EFL and / or Middlesbrough FC. The best way to get

What a well thought out post. Thank you

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trousers

trousers

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5 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt just this once that it was something about 'approaching the bench'

We all need to pull together at this difficult time 😉

I was just thinking that Middlesbrough have done something than no man, extra terrestrial being or supernatural force has ever been able to achieve... And that's to unite the disparate factions within Saintsweb! We've even had people agreeing with Soggy FFS...

Bravo, Middlesbrough, bravo 👏🏼👏🏼

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Saint NL

Saint NL

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Has anyone considered that this might have been a very clever PR piece to grow our global brand? Everyone will tune in next season to see those spying cheats 

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Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

I was just thinking that Middlesbrough have done something than no man, extra terrestrial being or supernatural force has ever been able to achieve... And that's to unite the disparate factions within Saintsweb! Bravo, Middlesbrough, bravo 👏🏼👏🏼

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Oh shut up you TWAT

 

 

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Pip

Pip

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This is beyond ludicrous now. Boro are definitely bringing the game into disrepute and I hope we are storing up enough evidence to sue them to Kingdom come.  In no way is this worthy of a fine of millions and a 6 or more point penalty but those figures are being bandied about so that we're relieved when it's less than that. Only positive is that the longer it goes on, the deeper Gibson digs himself in.

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saintant

saintant

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57 minutes ago, whelk said:

I really wouldn’t be bothered if Putin decided to attack Middlesbrough 

How would you know he had?

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James G

James G

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5 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

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Has anyone considered that this might have been a very clever PR piece to grow our global brand? Everyone will tune in next season to see those spying cheats 

It might be a cardboard cutout of Will Salt. I'm sure you can get them on Amazon

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BallBoy

BallBoy

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We are in a difficult position but Boro are now just taking advantage of their terrible misfortune to the point of "taking an unfair advantage". Trying to win an undeserved promotion in the courtroom.

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Doctoroncall

Doctoroncall

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes I gathered that and he was always going to sue us but I wondered if it meant he was going after them too if he feels they are too lenient. 

If the EFL and independent commission have followed due process, what is his claim?

There is an appeal process which can be used by either side. That would be all. 

trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Great idea for a Wembley mascot 

Will Salt face masks on every Saints seat at Wembley... Make it so!

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saintant

saintant

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37 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

We are keeping very quiet through all of this - which is probably the right thing to do. But does anyone ITK know what our defence is likely to be ? 

Peretz in goal, Manning, THB, Wood (or Stephens) Bree.

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BotleySaint

BotleySaint

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Honestly, at this point aren't Middlesborough just opening themselves up to legal challenge? It's starting to get to the point where a fair trial simply isn't possible due to the amount of whining BS they've been spouting in the media. We'll have to be let off as it's no longer possible to reach an unbiased opinion with all that noise!

BBC have really conducted themselves like idiots too. Clearly a Middlesborough fan in their ranks.

I'd love to see Middlesborough try to prove how we had a competitive advantage over the two games by looking at the footage. You wouldn't even get past the first half of the first leg before concluding that's just a nonsense opinion. They were all over us!

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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27 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Corroborates with someone I know who's dog's owner's brother's cat had a Chinese with Gibson. His fortune cookie said "Six beatings follow the southern wind."

Alex Crook will probably pick that up and sockeye will be “”nearly famous” as unnamed source. 

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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14 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I thought that too. Maybe because the infringement of the 72 hours rule also automatically brings the other one into play. Dunno lol. But the 72 hour rule is definitely written in such a way that one can assume watching training outside of the 72 hours is ok.

It does. The 72 hours thing is because clubs will work on their match tactics within that period. By putting that number into the rule, clubs know when it's fair play to work on specifics.

With training grounds being wide open, breaching it brings in the good faith part of it.

As for punishments, it's a larger fine than Leeds. Larger, but with an eye to not being as large to fines that would be handing out for dodgy payments, contracts etc such as a Chelsea were doing.

Any immediate points deductions, or for next season, would be disproportionate. It impacted a single post league game, as far as we know and not involving the everyone else is doing it.

If the EFL want to impose more extreme punishments, then they should look at updating the rules.

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Gloucester Saint

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Honestly, at this point aren't Middlesborough just opening themselves up to legal challenge? It's starting to get to the point where a fair trial simply isn't possible due to the amount of whining BS they've been spouting in the media. We'll have to be let off as it's no longer possible to reach an unbiased opinion with all that noise!

BBC have really conducted themselves like idiots too. Clearly a Middlesborough fan in their ranks.

I'd love to see Middlesborough try to prove how we had a competitive advantage over the two games by looking at the footage. You wouldn't even get past the first half of the first leg before concluding that's just a nonsense opinion. They were all over us!

BBC and Sky have been almost as bad as BBC Radio Tees and their local rag. Then Telegraph, Mail and Guardian. Hope the latter trio fold - they have very few staff left, AI is king - and BBC gets made into a subscription service. 

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Cabrone

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I'm thinking the young analyst screwed his days up, he was supposed to get there on Wednesday but something caused him to lose a day and he thought he'd chance it to not get in trouble. Young, naive and maybe a bit too eager to please.

OK, fair enough the club takes a fine and possible 3 points but it's hardly international espionage, more keystone cops.

Boro then sense an opportunity to get back into the playoffs, have a massive overreaction, pump up a media shit storm and generally trash SFC in a hail Mary attempt to keep their season alive even though they lost fair and square.

Now they are trying to influence the EFL with overbearing bully boy tactics.

Had they discreetly gone to the EFL with their concerns they would have credibility. However their constant shouting and stirring is losing them any sympathy they initially had. I doubt the EFL will appreciate their conduct.

On top of that they may face consequences w.r.t how they went about their business as this may have serious commercial implications for SFC. They and their media lap dogs have tried to defame the club before the club have ever had a chance to properly reply.

 

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James G

James G

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2 minutes ago, Stud mark of doom said:

I was just reading those and thinking the same thing. Opinion in the wider football world seems to have completely flipped round in our favour. 

We are the good guys again

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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2 minutes ago, Ekelund said:

Just seen them referred to as the Karens of football 🤣 Karen FC est. 2026

There was certainly one in a Matalan tracksuit gesturing at the home sections from Tuesday night. Can’t recall which thread it was one but @Miltonaggro posted it IIRC

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pingpong

pingpong

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Just now, Tommy said:

Whatever happens, next time we play boro i'm heading up with the drone int he days before. 

You don't need a drone, just an iPhone is enough.

I absolutely think live streaming their training onto YouTube is a must do activity for next season, it's not against any rules for fans to do it.

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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It’s on BBC News tonight. The final that might never happen as Middlesbrough try to get Southampton thrown out of the competition 😂 

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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I don’t like taking cheap, childish personal shots at people, but Gibbo has a proper sphincter face.

To quote Rab C Nesbitt “a face like a smacked arse on a February morning“ 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Just now, Toussaint said:

I don’t like taking cheap, childish personal shots at people, but Gibbo has a proper sphincter face.

To quote Rab C Nesbitt “a face like a smacked arse on a February morning“ 

The Billingham effect.

coalman

coalman

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Just now, Toussaint said:

I don’t like taking cheap, childish personal shots at people, but Gibbo has a proper sphincter face.

To quote Rab C Nesbitt “a face like a smacked arse on a February morning“ 

He looks like someone hit him with a bag of spanners.

Or like an aspiring Harry Redknapp tribute act.

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WinglessWonder

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1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Looked as if he was standing by a tree. Given its 2d and the angle is straight on 😉

Also, is it even possible to hide behind an object that is substantially narrower than the individual trying to"hide"? 🤣

Pip

Pip

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The match that we supposedly gained an advantage for ended 0-0. The one that was unaffected we won 2-1. Can we just wipe the first result and be done?

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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Just now, WinglessWonder said:

Also, is it even possible to hide behind an object that is substantially narrower than the individual trying to"hide"? 🤣

One thing we can be certain of, Will Salt has done his chances of being recruited as an MI5 field operative irrecoverable harm. 

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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2 minutes ago, Pip said:

The match that we supposedly gained an advantage for ended 0-0. The one that was unaffected we won 2-1. Can we just wipe the first result and be done?

What could be fairer? I’ll sign the petition 

Stud mark of doom

Stud mark of doom

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9 minutes ago, James G said:

We are the good guys again

That is overstating it but compared to the last general comments I read on it’s definitely moved from

”Southampton have cheated and should be punished”   
 

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”boro are completely over reacting. The game has to go ahead. Hull are getting punished and it’s nothing to do with then” 

 

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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I've seen some posts saying that Gibson is pushing so hard because he is standing up for the integrity of football and it's because he cares so much about the league. Do me a favour! 

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coalman

coalman

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Daily Mail saying that Boro should take Saints place in the final if found guilty. Boro forum breathes a sigh of relief.

Football Special

Football Special

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26 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

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Has anyone considered that this might have been a very clever PR piece to grow our global brand? Everyone will tune in next season to see those spying cheats 

It has "gone viral" , I was on a work call with customer based in Barcelona earlier and we got talking about it, need to get some merch ready for the summer to cash in, mush in the bush is turning up everywhere now 

 

Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I've seen some posts saying that Gibson is pushing so hard because he is standing up for the integrity of football and it's because he cares so much about the league. Do me a favour! 

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💷💷💷💷💷💷💷

whelk

whelk

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3 minutes ago, Stud mark of doom said:

That is overstating it but compared to the last general comments I read on it’s definitely moved from

”Southampton have cheated and should be punished”   
 

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”boro are completely over reacting. The game has to go ahead. Hull are getting punished and it’s nothing to do with then” 

 

Why the fuck would anyone pay attention to comments under a story? Strange nerd space especially on the BBC - can’t even fucking swear to make a point

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