hypochondriac Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, revolution saint said: He might end up staying at West Ham simply because no one will meet whatever valuation they put on him and/or come close to his wage demands. He’s only got a year left so he’ll probably be quite cheap but shifting players after relegation isn’t always easy. He won't play a minute at West ham because nuno doesn't want him. At worst he will get a loan away.
hypochondriac Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: He sort of did, he referred to being willing to accept the right offer for players who have been here a while but really wasn’t interested in selling players at the start of their journey here. I don't think the conclusion you can draw from his quotes is that we wouldn't be selling them. What he said is that clubs would have to pay a higher price for their services.
woodsaint1 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I saw a suggestion that Charles and Jander could go to be replaced by JWP and Neil. Would people be happy with that? I think we have to cut our cloth and sell people. If the sales were Charles, THB and Jander (along with archer and bbd) you'd think we could make at least 80 million from that lot. we then manage to keep Downes, Scienza and Azaz I could probably live with that. Peretz Bree/Roeslev Stephens/quarshie new signing/Wood Manning/Wellington Fellows/Matsuki Downes/Neil Jwp/Bragg Scienza/Edozie Azaz/new signing Larin/ new signing Assuming the players we sign are solid you'd have to say that's a pretty decent championship team. Maybe three signings after Neil. Maybe 15-20 million for those? 60 million profit is about what we were told we needed right? You've forgot about Ramsdale. Sell him for 20m+ then we can keep Jander
hypochondriac Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: You've forgot about Ramsdale. Sell him for 20m+ then we can keep Jander We won't be selling Ramsdale for that amount. Expect we will end up loaning him out again.
revolution saint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: He won't play a minute at West ham because nuno doesn't want him. At worst he will get a loan away. I love definitive posts like this when you have no idea what will actually happen. I’m sure West Ham will want to shift him on but whether they can is another matter. Odds are he probably will go but I wouldn’t be as certain as you are.
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, revolution saint said: I love definitive posts like this when you have no idea what will actually happen. I’m sure West Ham will want to shift him on but whether they can is another matter. Odds are he probably will go but I wouldn’t be as certain as you are. Really not difficult to come to that conclusion is it. He is obviously going to leave whether a transfer or on loan this summer. There's about ten other sources at various times in the last six months. Edited 7 hours ago by hypochondriac
Matthew Le God Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: He won't play a minute at West ham because nuno doesn't want him. At worst he will get a loan away. 16 minutes ago, revolution saint said: I love definitive posts like this when you have no idea what will actually happen. I’m sure West Ham will want to shift him on but whether they can is another matter. Haven't you done what you accused @hypochondriac of doing? 🤔 1
MarkSFC Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I can only see Ramsdale going to Leeds or Ipswich. Darlow (Leeds) is 35 and zi think Ipswichs group are not particularly the best. Coventry will presumably look to make Rushworth permanent or another loan, and Hull probably wouldn't spend the money on AR given they have a Croatian international GK (even though hes not yet started a game for Croatia I dont think). All other EPL options will only see AR as a back-up option. Maybe there could be an overseas option but we might not see much money for him.
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 6 hours ago, OldNick said: I never sawwhat the fuss was about him as he annoyed me with his safe sideways and back passing, ok he could take a free kick and a corner but IMHO his corners came in with such velocity it was hard for anybody to time the run Nor me. Edited 7 hours ago by Charlie Wayman
Charlie Wayman Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, MarkSFC said: I can only see Ramsdale going to Leeds or Ipswich. Darlow (Leeds) is 35 and zi think Ipswichs group are not particularly the best. Coventry will presumably look to make Rushworth permanent or another loan, and Hull probably wouldn't spend the money on AR given they have a Croatian international GK (even though hes not yet started a game for Croatia I dont think). All other EPL options will only see AR as a back-up option. Maybe there could be an overseas option but we might not see much money for him. Much too gloomy. He's a good player and will get a better club than you fear. Bournemouth might take him back and even Villa as a back-up
hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Good news this if true. Should net us 25 million which is more than I expected to get. 3
LiberalCommunist Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Not being mugged on the first offer is heartening. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said: Not being mugged on the first offer is heartening. Sends a message on THB as well. 1
revolution saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Haven't you done what you accused @hypochondriac of doing? 🤔 Yeah, I guess it could be interpreted like that so for your benefit, it should probably be “it’s likely West Ham will want to shift him on”
revolution saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Really not difficult to come to that conclusion is it. He is obviously going to leave whether a transfer or on loan this summer. There's about ten other sources at various times in the last six months. Finances though innit? Not really disputing that West Ham will want to shift him (“probably” for the benefit of the anally retentive MLG) but if no one meets their demands then they may have no option. It’s not unrealistic or uncommon for that to happen. Anyway, bored of this, crack on, it’s really not a big deal or that complicated to understand
hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Finances though innit? Not really disputing that West Ham will want to shift him (“probably” for the benefit of the anally retentive MLG) but if no one meets their demands then they may have no option. It’s not unrealistic or uncommon for that to happen. Anyway, bored of this, crack on, it’s really not a big deal or that complicated to understand Of course they will. If that happens they will do what we have done countless times. He will go on loan with West ham paying a percentage of his wages. Edited 6 hours ago by hypochondriac
revolution saint Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Of course they will. If that happens they will do what we have done countless times. He will go on loan with West ham paying a percentage of his wages. We didn’t with either Edozie or Aribo last season. Aribo obviously did in January but we wanted shot in the summer. Bella Kotchap similarly the season before that.
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, revolution saint said: We didn’t with either Edozie or Aribo last season. Aribo obviously did in January but we wanted shot in the summer. Bella Kotchap similarly the season before that. No idea what happened with Edozie but it sounded like we had something lined up but it fell through. We did with Sugawara, Onuachu before that, lyanco, perraud, djenepo, caleta-car and then Alcaraz in the January. Obviously we did it with Ramsdale last season (although as it was a Prem loan we didn't pay any wages) as well as smallbone, Larios and then Downs. Edited 5 hours ago by hypochondriac
revolution saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, hypochondriac said: No idea what happened with Edozie but it sounded like we had something lined up but it fell through. We did with Sugawara, Onuachu before that, lyanco, perraud, djenepo, caleta-car and then Alcaraz in the January. Obviously we did it with Ramsdale last season as well, smallbone, Larios and then Downs. Exactly, we did it with some but not all. Fuck me, took you a while to get there but well done.
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, revolution saint said: Exactly, we did it with some but not all. Fuck me, took you a while to get there but well done. Bored of your pedantry. When James ward prowse isn't at West Ham at the end of the window we can revisit the conversation.
woodsaint1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: We won't be selling Ramsdale for that amount. Expect we will end up loaning him out again. Why not, he done ok at Newcastle and could be a starter for a few PL teams. No incentive for the club to loan him again and his value depreciate futher. Best to sell him, especially now we've got Peretz and £20m would be the going rate for a keeper with significant PL experience. Hes only 28 too Edited 5 hours ago by woodsaint1
saintant Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Cuddles said: Have we signed JWP yet? Fortunately not. 1
hypochondriac Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Why not, he done ok at Newcastle and would be a starter for quite a few PL teams. No incentive for the club to loan him again and his value depreciate futher. Best to sell him, especially now we've got Peretz and £20m would be the going rate for a keeper with significant PL experience. Hes only 28 too Why would someone pay 20 million for a keeper that we very clearly do not want and actually need to get rid of?
revolution saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Bored of your pedantry. When James ward prowse isn't at West Ham at the end of the window we can revisit the conversation. Aribo was in the exact same situation as JWP, last year of his contract and not going to move unless it suited him so it’s not really pedantry but a factor that doesn’t suit your argument. For what it’s worth, I think he probably will leave, it was you that doesn’t even entertain the idea that he might stay. 1
woodsaint1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Why would someone pay 20 million for a keeper that we very clearly do not want and actually need to get rid of? Because he has nearly 200 PL appearances, was the Arsenal number 1 and an England international for a while. Yes clubs will know we're looking rid and will try to haggle us down, but hes a very good keeper and there is a need for that. Understand us loaning him last season as he could have come back into fold had we got promoted. But now we've Peretz, it makes no sense to agree to any loan. Need to sell, even if that means we only get 15m
Oldandtired Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Cuddles said: Have we signed JWP yet? PleaseGodNONONONONO🙏 1
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