sockeye Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: Joined for 7m euros I think, and it's been 2 years, so wages considered as well, I guess we'll get our money back on him if they take the option? Can only hope he excels out there, he's got no future here, got to stay in contention for the Japan squad too. 1
CSA96 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Telegraph reporting that Saints have turned down approx 4m from Salzburg for Sam Edozie
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said: £4m plus sell on for Edozie doesn’t sound too bad to me 6
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, LGTL said: Falchener was the one. No idea why we didn’t bid slightly higher as he was clearly our first choice. We’ve been dragging our feet all day as to whether to bid higher, but it seems they’ve decided against it. A bizarre position, to be honest. Should have held on and made Villa pay us £30m upfront to cover the extra. What was our highest bid? What is our actual budget? What price should we have gone to? 3
Maggie May Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average.
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Chez said: What was our highest bid? What is our actual budget? What price should we have gone to? The only figure mentioned was 100 Norwegian Krone, c £8m. No idea if accurate, or if our opening or second bid.
James Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Maggie May said: Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average. Jack Stephens started the League Cup Semi and Final back in the day… 5
Teamsaint1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, VectisSaint said: JWP is not and never will be a replacement for Shea Charles. They play different positions and different games and have massively different attributes. They are like chalk and cheese, and that's no offence to JWP. Last season we had Jander and Charles to rotate, with Downes and Bragg rotating. With Jander out we will be very unbalanced and lose a lot of what made us good in 26. JWP has played a variety of midfield roles many times at PL level. I wish we still had SC, but JWP should give us an enormous amount of quality and versatility. 2 1
West end Saints Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, sockeye said: Also in the underwhelmed camp regarding this signing. Our defense is quite poor for a team with our ambitions of automatic promotion, it will be cut apart by the stronger forwards in the division without THB. This position determines whether or not we are seriously in the autos conversation imo, and having to go for our 20-year old third choice feels worrying I am dreading our current defence facing 6'3 forward from Millwall they will murder us 3
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Shame its just an option, which is basically meaningless. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Unless it was structured weirdly, that’s an odd decision. Only paid £8m and only a year of his contract left. 2
Badger Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Chez said: Shame its just an option, which is basically meaningless. Yes, think we can guess how this will pan out, 1
Lighthouse Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, LGTL said: Falchener was the one. No idea why we didn’t bid slightly higher as he was clearly our first choice. We’ve been dragging our feet all day as to whether to bid higher, but it seems they’ve decided against it. A bizarre position, to be honest. Should have held on and made Villa pay us £30m upfront to cover the extra. You can’t just hold on to everyone to make other clubs pay more. I’ve no doubt we could have afforded a couple of million more for Falchener if we thought he was worth it. We haven’t paid it, so I can only assume he isn’t. 1
Turkish Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, Maggie May said: Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average. You called? 4
Mboto Gorge Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 46 minutes ago, James said: 3 is not experienced, 13 is still not experienced which is clearly the point that was being made which you’ve just ignored for the sake of being pedantic. It’s what he does. Tows the club line and aligns his opinion to whatever stance the club has taken on a particular topic. If we’d signed Falchener and opted against Abbott at the last minute he’d be saying it’s a no brainer due to the difference in experience. The guys a troll
Turkish Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Telegraph reporting that Saints have turned down approx 4m from Salzburg for Sam Edozie Seems like a fair price. Every window random European clubs bid for him he never leaves and barely plays for us. It’s weird 3
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Badger said: The only figure mentioned was 100 Norwegian Krone, c £8m. No idea if accurate, or if our opening or second bid. My guess is we bid, it was turned down, we asked what they wanted and they said at least double which priced us out of the market. I liked the look of him too, but we have only so much spending power. 1
SouthWalesSaints Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I wonder if the £250,000 wages for ramsdale every month are the reason we’ve not replaced THB with a fee. I watched the Porto away game and Forest were excellent that night. I think he’ll do well for us, based of not a lot. But I’m more hopeful than others. 1
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Given how long the THB deal took you would have thought we'd have been having meaningful negotiations and laying the groundwork with the Norwegian and Austrian plus their respective clubs in advance. I kinda assumed that's how these things work so that once the THB deal was finalised we'd have some framework already in place. Surely we'd have been able to establish whether either or both were viable in terms of transfer fees, wages and whether the players actually wanted to come. Doesn't seem to have happened which is baffling and means we've wasted a lot of time leaving us scrambling around in the last 30 hours of the window. 9
Gloucester Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Turkish said: Seems like a fair price. Every window random European clubs bid for him he never leaves and barely plays for us. It’s weird Worth 0 in the summer and club seem desperate for money - seems bizarre not to take £4m if most of it upfront. 1
The Kraken Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average. Probably not. But according to the BBC report, he started at right back rather than centre back.
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Teamsaint1 said: JWP has played a variety of midfield roles many times at PL level. I wish we still had SC, but JWP should give us an enormous amount of quality and versatility. Comparing apples and oranges imo. 1
SNSUN Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average. Nathan Wood started an FA Cup semi final against City. 😜 1
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, James said: Jack Stephens started the League Cup Semi and Final back in the day… ...and he's go about 280 games under his belt. Experience ain't everything. Livramento didnt have a league game under his belt. Lavia too. That said, neither did Larios.
Midfield_General Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Maggie May said: I’d have preferred Russ Abbot tbh. He was at St Mary’s vs Millwall. Very complimentary about the atmosphere. 8
SNSUN Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, West end Saints said: I am dreading our current defence facing 6'3 forward from Millwall they will murder us Have you been in a coma for the last week? 😉 1
Fabrice29 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said: It’s what he does. Tows the club line and aligns his opinion to whatever stance the club has taken on a particular topic. If we’d signed Falchener and opted against Abbott at the last minute he’d be saying it’s a no brainer due to the difference in experience. The guys a troll Given I’ve argued on here quite a lot that ‘experience’ shouldn’t be used as a barometer - I really don’t think I would have been 😂
Fabrice29 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, saintant said: Given how long the THB deal took you would have thought we'd have been having meaningful negotiations and laying the groundwork with the Norwegian and Austrian plus their respective clubs in advance. I kinda assumed that's how these things work so that once the THB deal was finalised we'd have some framework already in place. Surely we'd have been able to establish whether either or both were viable in terms of transfer fees, wages and whether the players actually wanted to come. Doesn't seem to have happened which is baffling and means we've wasted a lot of time leaving us scrambling around in the last 30 hours of the window. There is of course the option that we did all this and a human being changed their mind for some reason, somewhere along the line? 1
skintsaint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Chez said: My guess is we bid, it was turned down, we asked what they wanted and they said at least double which priced us out of the market. I liked the look of him too, but we have only so much spending power. Think that would be a record fee out of that league, so can see why we would have walked away.
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Fabrice29 said: There is of course the option that we did all this and a human being changed their mind for some reason, somewhere along the line? Or even two human beings.
Teamsaint1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, saintant said: Comparing apples and oranges imo. The point of my post was about general state of finances and the squad. But in any case they are both versatile goal scoring CMs, one with huge potential, one with huge experience and proven PL quality. Edited 2 hours ago by Teamsaint1
SuperSAINT Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: Seems like a fair price. Every window random European clubs bid for him he never leaves and barely plays for us. It’s weird He’s really had a weird trajectory here. If you said we had a £4m bid for him I would’ve thought there was no way we would reject it. 3
Matty's Caddy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Again, but in English please 😉 Thought he was having a stroke…..😬
SNSUN Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Be funny if we saw Abbott as the Roerslev replacement and still sign another CB. 😝 Also, I know we signed Dobbie but if Edozie goes I'd want another winger. Greedy? Shit yes. 4
Mboto Gorge Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: Given I’ve argued on here quite a lot that ‘experience’ shouldn’t be used as a barometer - I really don’t think I would have been 😂 You’ll tow whatever direction the club are taking pal and you know it. You’ve admitted you enjoy winding people up too when you’re bored so deliberately take the minority view to engage people and amuse yourself. Keep it up, it makes this site more entertaining 3
Katalinic Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Maggie May said: Jokes aside, I think getting Zach Abbott is a smart bit of business. You don’t start and FA Cup semi final against City if you’re average. Reading the Forest fans comments (who have actually seen him play) they seem to be resoundingly positive. 3
Fabrice29 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said: You’ll tow whatever direction the club are taking pal and you know it. You’ve admitted you enjoy winding people up too when you’re bored so deliberately take the minority view to engage people and amuse yourself. Keep it up, it makes this site more entertaining Will double check with the club to see if I still find it amusing and get back to you. Would also like to add that it would be worrying if ‘I’ll wait until I see him play to decide if he’s good or not’ is the same position the club are taking on any transfer they are about to complete. Edited 2 hours ago by Fabrice29 1
saint-ross Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 18 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Looking forward to seeing Damion Downs first name on the teamsheet tomorrow, then? I mean, we've seen enough of him to know he's clearly not good enough for our level, so i don't get how this is relevant. If you understand what I've said, I'm referring to judging players before they kick a ball for us, or without a reasonable amount of time to integrate. In fairness, some fans actually gave Dobbin 30 minutes before writing him off. Fair play for allowing him that time to settle. It's all getting a bit common here, Larin, Dobbin, Azaz when he joined, people were on his case after his early performances. Fellows, Archer. Last season, Manning and Bree copped a load. Even saw a bunch of crap when Peretz joined, although tbf, a lot of that was people taking issue to their understanding of his political views. We've clearly missed out on our preferred targets. Seems sensible to use a loan, rather than chuck 15 mil that turn out to be duds that we can't shift, like Downs... Yes we'd have liked a bit more experience, but lets give the lad a handful of games at least. 1
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: How are we looking for the net spend trophy? When you start owing £90m + in transfer fees, you're a bit fucked in all reality.
qwertyell Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The most expensive defender on our books will be Kayi Sanda. Makes you think. 2 3
Suhari Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Hey ChatGPT. Insert the Jim Carey "What, there's a chance" gif here, please. 1
saintant Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, egg said: When you start owing £90m + in transfer fees, you're a bit fucked in all reality. You may well be right but, if so, it begs the question of why we have been trying to sign the Austrian or Norwegian centre back? 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Absolute bollocks hahahahha
Chez Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Badger said: £4m plus sell on for Edozie doesn’t sound too bad to me was the £4m being paid in £1 a year instalments?
egg Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, saintant said: You may well be right but, if so, it begs the question of why we have been trying to sign the Austrian or Norwegian centre back? It's a simple answer you would think - we could afford a certain amount after selling THB, but had a limit.
SNSUN Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, qwertyell said: The most expensive defender on our books will be Kayi Sanda. Makes you think. I was trying to disprove this but it is, in fact, accurate. That's some doing. Depends on the option fee for Abbott (as to what we believe he's worth, or Forest believe he's worth) but yep, Kayi Sanda on £4 million beats Schlotterbeck and Wood.
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